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Rosarito Vacation Safety
Hola nomads. I was thinking about renting a home with some friends for a quick vacation near Puerto Nuevo later this year; mostly tequila, lobsters,
and maybe some fishing. I went last year and had a great time, but once again the safety questions are popping into my head.
I understand how the media paints Mexico is not always (maybe never) accurate, so I thought I would ask you nice folks what the real situation is. Are
there any recent surges of violence or crime that I should be aware of? I read (probably here) that car theft is pretty bad in Rosarito lately; this
kind of heads up or any other local advice would be greatly appreciated.
Our time would be mostly spent back and forth between Puerto Nuevo and Rosarito.
[Edited on 6-8-2011 by gd98]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gd98
I understand how the media paints Mexico is not always (maybe never) accurate
I read (probably here) that car theft is pretty bad in Rosarito lately; this kind of heads up or any other local advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Your first statement is patently false. Even Mexico wouldn't say that. Instead they say the news of crime in the country is presented too much by the
US press. What they want, to improve tourism, is censorship. What do you think? Should the US press be silenced to improve tourism in Mexico?
The US press doesn't lie about crime in Mexico. They get their stories from the same sources as the Mexican press who, by the way, print all of it
with photos that would floor a US housewife.
Rosarito is still one of the dirtiest places around here. Zeta [That's a Mexico publication] says the entire police force is corrupt.
So....believe what you want, but you're on your own.
Auto theft is epidemic everywhere down here.
Have a good trip and familiarize yourself with the ABC bus schedule. You may need it.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gd98
I thought I would ask you nice folks what the real situation is. |
No comment.
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Thanks for the reply, and sorry if my jab at the press was off color; just a little left over cynicism from my school days.
I guess that I meant that it is hard to piece together an accurate idea of day to day safety from only news sources, given that most stories will tend
to be negative.
I suppose I already had my answer about the safety; there was just a part of me hoping that I was wrong. Thanks anyway (not jenny, no comment to you
too jenny.)
[Edited on 6-8-2011 by gd98]
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DENNIS
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Yeah...nobody wants to buy good news.
Go on down and have fun. Just increase your level of vigilance and buy insurance to cover any loss. You'll be alright.
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Don't know where gd98 was planning to stay. "Near Puerto Nuevo".
My experience all around the world has been that whether it's Jamaica, Mexico, Croatia, Italy, Greece.....Etc., The more any tourist travels around
the area, the greater their risk of encountering trouble.
This problem was the genesis of the all-inclusive resorts that now proliferate all over the world. Sure, there are some who buy into those places
because they can drink as much as possible.
But having been in a beachfront hotel in San Juan years ago, where they had a 15 foot high fence with barbed wire on the top, that had a single gate
allowing exit to the beach, which was locked at dusk, I can only suggest that if anyone has a fear of crime and violence, they stick to the larger,
self-contained resorts. Or just don't go.
Understand that I am no fan of all-inclusives, and considered a major part of foreign travel to be the ability to get out and about, absorbing the
flavor of the local culture and enjoying myriad local restaurants.
In my opinion, given current conditions, a facility such as Estero Beach Hotel (South of Ensenada proper) would represent a great compromise, in that
they are relatively secure and provide food and beverage on site, but not all-inclusive.
That said, I defer to Dennis on this. I'm of the mind that a tourist is in significantly greater danger in Rosarito right now than than they would be
in Ensenada.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
I'm of the mind that a tourist is in significantly greater danger in Rosarito right now than than they would be in Ensenada. |
For certain. I get the feeling that gd98 is looking for something with a bit more life than Estero although the cemetary atmosphere would suit me
fine.
If I were much younger and wanted to dive right in, I'd pick a motel right on First Street in Ensenada. Walk [crawl] to everything. Good restaurants
in every direction and Anthony's might be having a special. Never know.
Yep....that's what I'd do.
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Interesting points, and thanks for the reply Bajahowodd. I admit part of my concern is just from going somewhere foreign and the risks that come from
that, but that is something I'm actively trying to overcome. I fear that this desire might push me to ignore the real warning signs and put myself in
a situation I can't get out of. This isn't something I really wanted to get into in a board like this, given its trailblazing type, but I wanted to
give an honest response.
This would be an informal trip with minimal preparation, a place like Estero Beach Hotel sounds like a good compromise. Thanks for the tip.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gd98
Interesting points, and thanks for the reply Bajahowodd. I admit part of my concern is just from going somewhere foreign and the risks that come from
that, but that is something I'm actively trying to overcome. I fear that this desire might push me to ignore the real warning signs and put myself in
a situation I can't get out of. This isn't something I really wanted to get into in a board like this, given its trailblazing type, but I wanted to
give an honest response.
This would be an informal trip with minimal preparation, a place like Estero Beach Hotel sounds like a good compromise. Thanks for the tip.
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Enjoy yourself. Don't drive after dark and keep your heads up at all times you are out in the open. Avoid anyone that approaches you speaking English
with neck tattoos. Put a can of wasp spray in your car for protection (not from bees) and make sure you all have passports. If you run into serious
trouble, call the Military- not the Rosarito police.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Anthony's might be having a special. Never know. |
You mean like a twofer? Or would it be more like a clearance sale on irregular or blemished items?
\"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.\" -- Frank Zappa
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gd98:
Here are my two centavos...
I do the same thing as you are planning on doing, (Puerto Nuevo, etc.), but I stay at Poco Cielo, (760-670-3336) good security, good food, great
atmosphere. Puerto Nuevo is 8 minutes north (eat at Villa Ortegas, waterfront on left corner). Fishing from Ensenada boats is about 20 minutes away.
The restaurant Muelle Tres is at the Malecon next to the fish market in Ensenada.
The parking lot in Ensenada near the fish market is well secured.
BTW...when is your famous trip? I'll be down south, same area, in three weeks.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by gd98
Interesting points, and thanks for the reply Bajahowodd. I admit part of my concern is just from going somewhere foreign and the risks that come from
that, but that is something I'm actively trying to overcome. I fear that this desire might push me to ignore the real warning signs and put myself in
a situation I can't get out of. This isn't something I really wanted to get into in a board like this, given its trailblazing type, but I wanted to
give an honest response.
This would be an informal trip with minimal preparation, a place like Estero Beach Hotel sounds like a good compromise. Thanks for the tip.
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Enjoy yourself. Don't drive after dark and keep your heads up at all times you are out in the open. Avoid anyone that approaches you speaking English
with neck tattoos. Put a can of wasp spray in your car for protection (not from bees) and make sure you all have passports. If you run into serious
trouble, call the Military- not the Rosarito police. |
gd98:
rosarito is the stinky armpit of the region. it has lots of problems ranging from crooked cops, and tolerating the presence of drug lords, to being a
new home for deported LA gang bangers.
i suggest you drive past rosarito and go to to ensenada. ensenada is quite nice.
rosarito is just sketchy.
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check six!!!
| Quote: | So....believe what you want, but you're on your own.
Auto theft is epidemic everywhere down here.
Have a good trip and familiarize yourself with the ABC bus schedule. You may need it. |
We never stop until below Ensenada. I've talked to several people who had trouble in the Rosarito/Puerto Nuevo area. When I left Iraq in 2008 the
Iraqis I talked to in Bagdad were woried when I said I was driving in Mex when I got home. Yep...folks in Bagdad heard nexico was too dangerous.
EdZ KG6UTS
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| Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by EdZeranski
So....believe what you want, but you're on your own.
Auto theft is epidemic everywhere down here.
Have a good trip and familiarize yourself with the ABC bus schedule. You may need it. |
We never stop until below Ensenada. I've talked to several people who had trouble in the Rosarito/Puerto Nuevo area. When I left Iraq in 2008 the
Iraqis I talked to in Bagdad were woried when I said I was driving in Mex when I got home. Yep...folks in Bagdad heard nexico was too dangerous.
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no way! I'd say "how cool is that?" but not so much this time...
I do agree Ensenada has a lot to offer though. Another thread here has the Ensenada events calendar.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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we also stay in ensenada twice a year and we love it ... like anywhere, heads up, main roads only at night, one of you should be sober at all times to
ward off trouble before it ever even becomes an issue. I would carry a copy of my passport and not the passport itself. have a copy of all docs on
your computer
I spent a month once in rosarito and thoroughly enjoyed it and felt perfectly safe - but it was so long ago that I cannot comment now.
welcome to bajanomad and have a wonderful "adventure", gd98.
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I usually spend a great deal of time in Mexico. Mostly on the Sea of Cortez these days. Have been going to Mexico for years.
Never had a issue. I know many folks that never had an issue. 99% of the stories you read about concerning Mexico's violence is drug related.
Unless you plan to cruise the hoods at midnight....looking for a hot honey and good blow for the nose.....while wearing your Rolex watch with a
Stetson hat to match.....common sense works great to keep you safe and sane. Just as it would visiting Hollywood or South Sacramento.
So I am leaving for Vegas for a week....tomorrow.... with son in tow. We will use common sense there.....and have a good ol time. No drugs, no
hookers, no booze......and no wife. Yahooooooo!
[Edited on 6-9-2011 by mcfez]
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Have fun!!! Nancy
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Localizan el cuerpo de un hombre con narcomensaje en Rosarito
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PLAYAS DE ROSARITO.- Un hombre de aproximadamente 40 años de edad fue localizado muerto en las inmediaciones de la delegación Plan Libertador.
El cuerpo que hasta el momento no ha sido identificado fue ubicado atrás de un centro comercial en la calle José Hipólito, de la colonia Independencia
debido a una denuncia anónima que se realizó al C4 durante la madrugada.
El hombre estaba semidesnudo, con huellas de tortura y tenía un narcomensaje que decía:
Por andar chapulineando atte. Los Tigres.
Al lugar arribaron elementos municipales quienes notificaron a agentes periciales los cuales se encargaron de realizar las indagatorias
correspondientes para que el Servicio Médico Forense se hiciera cargo del cuerpo.
Link to story.
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It says the semi-naked body of an unidentified man who was tortured and killed was found behind a shopping center in Rosarito today. He had a narco
message on his body: "Por andar chapulineando atte. Los Tigres."
That translates literally as "For being a grasshopper. The Tigers."
What it really means is that he was killed for changing sides.
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What it really means is that he was killed for changing sides. |
That's exactly why I've been a Dodger fan my entire life. Yep....that's why.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jenny.navarrette
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PLAYAS DE ROSARITO.- Un hombre de aproximadamente 40 años de edad fue localizado muerto en las inmediaciones de la delegación Plan Libertador.
El cuerpo que hasta el momento no ha sido identificado fue ubicado atrás de un centro comercial en la calle José Hipólito, de la colonia Independencia
debido a una denuncia anónima que se realizó al C4 durante la madrugada.
El hombre estaba semidesnudo, con huellas de tortura y tenía un narcomensaje que decía:
Por andar chapulineando atte. Los Tigres.
Al lugar arribaron elementos municipales quienes notificaron a agentes periciales los cuales se encargaron de realizar las indagatorias
correspondientes para que el Servicio Médico Forense se hiciera cargo del cuerpo.
Link to story.
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It says the semi-naked body of an unidentified man who was tortured and killed was found behind a shopping center in Rosarito today. He had a narco
message on his body: "Por andar chapulineando atte. Los Tigres."
That translates literally as "For being a grasshopper. The Tigers."
What it really means is that he was killed for changing sides. |
There have been two recent murders in my
neighborhood that never saw print ink. Both cases were "grasshoppers"- street drug dealers who changed teams. There was a lady raped a few days ago
in downtown Rosarito- local press covered it though. These are all considered "local interest" stories and are not covered stateside in the press.
Crime is always around us these days in every country- so when traveling just try to blend in and don't draw attention to yourself like McFez said.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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