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Katiejay99
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Is it itme to say adios to Mexico travel? per MSNBC
MSNBC just posted this on their website:
http://overheadbin.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/06/08/6814606-ti...
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drarroyo
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YES!!!
You'd be crazy to visit this godforsaken country. Stay at home!!! DO NOT come to LosBarilles!!! DANGER DANGER!!
please
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krafty
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what a bunch of crap
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CDB
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Cone on krafty, you don't have to sugar coat it.
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Bajahowodd
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There You Go...
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
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Being a jerk again. This isn't about left or right. At least, to the extent that it's about tourism to Mexico, it's not a strictly political issue
based on party affiliation.
If you take your cabeza out of your culo, you might realize that by and large, it's the right side of the political spectrum that would be the first
to trash Mexico.
That said, the author of the article seems to me to be less than educated about the entire issue and may just have her own agenda.
That whole thing about the number of US citizens killed in Mexico is a total red herring, in that she provided no comparisons, while also leaving her
an out about whether the number of casualties were tourist related.
Bottom line is that the article was bunk.
[Edited on 6-10-2011 by BajaNomad]
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woody with a view
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i'll be crossing at 4:20am tomorrow.
if i return intact i promise to update all the rest of y'alls, unless it's really good.
then i'll lie.......
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
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Being a jerk again. This isn't about left or right. At least, to the extent that it's about tourism to Mexico, it's not a strictly political issue
based on party affiliation.
If you take your cabeza out of your burro, you might realize that by and large, it's the right side of the political spectrum that would be the first
to trash Mexico.
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People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
[Edited on 6-10-2011 by BajaNomad]
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Von
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Yeah~
READY SET.....................
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Eli
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When I came down here to live, (it will be 22 years in July), My Mother and Step Dad had such a fit, they were sure I would be hauled off to some cave
back who knows where and be raped and done away with for sure.
Well, I must admit this did provoke some pretty racie fantasy's in my head, You know some Young Stud with his bandaleros, riding on his horse sweeping
me up and off in to the hills we would go, ho ho, I am still waiting.........sigh. Alas, nothing of the sort has even come close to happening, and
now that I am a grandma, I expect it is even less of a possibility.
My point is, the fear of the unknown is nothing new. I would be nervous as all gidout in Chicago on my own for example. I am not saying no harm will
ever come to me here, but if I was up North, well bad things can happen any where.
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drarroyo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Eli
Well, I must admit this did provoke some pretty racie fantasy's in my head, You know some Young Stud with his bandaleros, riding on his horse sweeping
me up and off in to the hills we would go, ho ho, I am still waiting.........sigh. Alas, nothing of the sort has even come close to happening, and
now that I am a grandma, I expect it is even less of a possibility.
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hmmmmm. maybe there will be a suprise upon your return to town!
As long as you're ok with the label 'cougar'. jajaja
[Edited on 6-10-2011 by drarroyo]
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Leo
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Ms Ruiz wants gringos to stay home, obviously. Very unbalanced article on Travel in Mexico. Your loss if you go for this crap.
The grass is always greener....
and so, there is always a better spot in Baja
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Eli
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hmmmmm. maybe there will be a suprise upon your return to town!
As long as you're ok with the label 'cougar'. jajaja
OH MY, drarroyo, You did make me blush with that comment.
[Edited on 6-10-2011 by Eli]
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bajatravelergeorge
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News organizations need content and for some strange reason, stories about travel or violence in Mexico draws an audience.
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Katiejay99
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I think it is interesting that MSNBC has seemed to pull this story from their site. It was the big banner when I copied it. Now I can't even find the
story on their site.
I think they may have gotten a bunch of nasty emails and perhaps some of them from top people in Mexico. Anyhow, I am glad they did pull it. The link
still works.
I just shake my head at people who constantly question me about living in Mexico and how dangerous it is. LOL. At least people enjoy themselves here.
I mean look around at how many people sit outside, wave as you go by and just generally love life. That is how it is in Todos Santos and I very much
love being here and being a part of it.
Sorry for posting this in the wrong Forum. I'm sure BN can fix it, right?
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Katiejay99
I just shake my head at people who constantly question me about living in Mexico and how dangerous it is. LOL. At least people enjoy themselves here.
I mean look around at how many people sit outside, wave as you go by and just generally love life. That is how it is in Todos Santos and I very much
love being here and being a part of it.
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todos santos is not DF or texas border region.
in all 3rd world countries, there is a marked difference between the expat enclaves/resort areas and the parts of the country where most people live
real lives. in parts of mexico, many of the people living real lives are living lives of violence and terror.
i don't think todos santos is representative of the other 99% of mexico.
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sancho
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I'm the last one of my circle of friends who still visit
Baja. Some of us feel comfortable in Mex others don't.
For me I started out with surf trips in the 70's. But I do believe
if an unfortunate incident would happen to one of us,
more than likely we would not return. The # of Americans
killed in Mex gets me wondering how many, and
I have to be PC, have underbelly connections in Mex
are down there for something more than tourism
Not to forget the FACT that on at least 1 occasion last
yr or so, there were bodies hanging from a Blvd overpass
in so. TJ. We all know who the violence is directed at,
but no wonder the casual Mex gringo tourist is
concerned
[Edited on 6-10-2011 by sancho]
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Eli
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todos santos is not DF or texas border region.
in all 3rd world countries, there is a marked difference between the expat enclaves/resort areas and the parts of the country where most people live
real lives. in parts of mexico, many of the people living real lives are living lives of violence and terror.
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Mtgoat, In some ways I actually agree, I often reflect that while I live a life oblivious of violence, there is some guy just kicking the bezesus out
of his wife in the very same town at the very same moment that I am breathing deep the peace. Where we differ in our perspective is; I don't think
violence and terror is only experienced in 3rd world countries and only affects the poor. I believe this exists in all walks of life in any town, any
where in the world, it is USUALLY (but certainly not always, in this moment I think of Africa, ay, yi, yi), behind closed doors. I walk among the
lower income folks a little more than I hang with the rich, I don't believe that most of the people I interact with wish any harm on anyone.
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Bajahowodd
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Hey Doug. Interesting edit. 
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msawin
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How did you do with your "LIVE POLL" option?
on the link for the article.
Yes or No, no mexico trip for me...
[Edited on 6-11-2011 by msawin]
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absinvestor
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Eli- your story brings back memories. 1973 was our first trip to Mexico. We drove from the Bay Area to Acapulco. Our son was 2 and our daughter was 5.
Before leaving my parents begged us not to take the children. They were sure that our 2 children would be kidnapped or killed after we were murdered
by bandidos. They really thought that bandidos were everywhere and we wouldn't get 100 miles beyond the border before something terrible would happen.
We and the kids had a fantastic time. (Our only problem was, due to my stubborn self, we ran out of gas. A gas station attendant decided to finish his
siesta before getting up to fill up our tank which was nearly on empty and I decided to take my business elsewhere!!) We ran out of gas about 60 miles
from the next gas station. Within minutes an elderly lady walked over from her little shack and offered to take my wife and kids to her home until we
could get help. A Green Angel truck showed up about an hour later, shook his head at my stupidity and put 5 gallons of gas in our gas tank. Since 1973
we have made dozens of trips to Mexico and in the mid 90's lived for a couple of years in Baja Norte. (Early next month we are relocating permanently
to Baja Sur.) I have never worried about violence. I do know that if I leave the house or motorhome unlocked I can expect to have my tv etc to be
stolen. I also know that if I leave the keys in the car that the car will be missing on my return and that if I leave a full gas can outside it will
be empty or missing when I decide to use it. These things also happen in the States but not as frequently as in Mexico. Other than the border towns I
have never felt unsafe. My wife and I and two friendly dogs walk the deserted beaches well into the night and we've never had a problem. Might this
change- maybe- but for now we prefer to enjoy the best of Mexico and not worry about what may never happen. Ron
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