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1942 - 2012 -- 70 Years Along The Baja Pole Line Road


With the construction of the Baja Pole Line Road (from Ensenada to San Felipe) to service the Telephone Line constructed in 1942 for WWII communications and logistics, 70 years have nearly marked its' existence on the Baja Peninsula.

I have traveled this route with Nomads for the past 7 years, starting with Neal/Marian Johns, my friend Mike Hendrick, Brad/Rhoda Green, and later to include dozens of hardy off-roaders who could handle a 3 day trip through the Baja Backcountry. After reading Neal Johns' article in the Discover Baja newsletter, I contacted him about showing me this challenging and remote 4WD route.

The Pole Line Road - Approaching Arroyo Grande


The Pole Line Road - along the Sierra Juarez


Abandoned Water Tank - TW inspecting


The Pole Line Road - (nearly) 70 Yr. Old Cobblestone Section!
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The Sierra Tinajas viewed from the 1942 Pole Line Road


The Pole Line Road - Jeep Rubicon Runs



The Pole Line Road - Night Run along "Basketball Hill"


In November 2012, I plan on leading a 70 year Commemerative Baja Pole Line Road trip. So, please stay tuned!:bounce:

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[*] posted on 7-11-2011 at 08:09 AM


Nice plan Ken... !



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Howard Gulick (Lower California Guidebook) mapped and made a road log of the Pole Line Road for his 1962 edition...









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[*] posted on 7-11-2011 at 04:08 PM


Ken,
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Ken, will you consider Toyotas?

If you are developing a list, and allow Neal to go - I can act as his chaparone perhaps?

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Ken, will you consider Toyotas?

If you are developing a list, and allow Neal to go - I can act as his chaparone perhaps?

John M


I think Ken knows the importance of having a RELIABLE vehicle along with his Jeep group, in such remote country... Neal Johns, Brock or myself have been with Ken and company in the past, south of Guadalupe Canyon!:light:




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Ken, will you consider Toyotas?

If you are developing a list, and allow Neal to go - I can act as his chaparone perhaps?

John M


Of course, John. Actually, I was driving a Honda Pilot on the 215 S and drove beside you and your wife while you were driving down to Baja last year. If I were driving in my Jeep, you would have recognized me.




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Ken, will you consider Toyotas?

If you are developing a list, and allow Neal to go - I can act as his chaparone perhaps?

John M


I think Ken knows the importance of having a RELIABLE vehicle along with his Jeep group, in such remote country... Neal Johns, Brock or myself have been with Ken and company in the past, south of Guadalupe Canyon!:light:


Part of the problem, David came from driving a vehicle with over 100,000 miles on the odo. When I was driving the Ford, after 120,000 mi., the vehicle developed problems throughout the drivetrain. While 4 wheeling on Sunday in the San Bernardinos, I saw broken down Toyotas on my way up the Cajon Pass. So, I take these comments with a grain of salt. My Rubicon has gone through lots of mainenance lately in order to prevent problems along the roadside. On Friday, I replaced the shock mounts since this is a weak link for Jeep vehicles that I will not have to worry about.




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[*] posted on 7-12-2011 at 09:21 PM


Ken, you're a good dog, we just like to pull your chain.


Picture of Ken watching a Toyota go by::lol::lol:

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100,000 miles on a Tacoma is known as the break-in period... on many other 4x4s it is the break-apart period! :lol:



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Ken, will you consider Toyotas?

If you are developing a list, and allow Neal to go - I can act as his chaparone perhaps?

John M


Unfortunately, more Toyotas than Jeeps are signed up. I'm hoping for a big response from the Jeep Forums.:yes:




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How many of those Toyota owners USED to be Jeep owners (like me)?

Nothing wrong with a mixed group, unless you believe in segregation???!!:?::smug:;D




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100,000 miles on a Tacoma is known as the break-in period... on many other 4x4s it is the break-apart period! :lol:


Let us know when you get to 250,000 miles without incident in that rice burner! :lol::lol:
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I have put 136,000 miles on my 2001, in under 5 years... 102,000 miles on my 2005 in 4 1/2 years... and 27,000 in 1 1/2 years on my 2010.

Obviously, they do so well, I keep getting the same make at the end of my 5 year leases... 265,000 miles in 10 years with no engine, driveline or electronic failures... "oh, what a feeling"!

My Tacoma was made in Baja California... so it is a bean burner!:lol:




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100,000 miles on a Tacoma is known as the break-in period... on many other 4x4s it is the break-apart period! :lol:


Toyota needs HELP:
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=54038




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I've put on over 1,000,000 miles on my Ford 4X4's, over a forty year period, with no major problems! Always able to return home from my many Baja trips and wheeling trips in the desert!
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100,000 miles on a Tacoma is known as the break-in period... on many other 4x4s it is the break-apart period! :lol:


Toyota needs HELP:
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=54038


That link takes you to this:

>>>Help. Need jump start for Toyoto Prius.
Does anyone have a Prius and know a reputable tow truck operator who can come and jump start one. It's dead, in the garage in park with the wheels locked. Can't back it out to jump start. Help. <<<

Is that the best example of Toyota failure you can find on Nomad, Ken? :lol::lol::lol:




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I've put on over 1,000,000 miles on my Ford 4X4's, over a forty year period, with no major problems! Always able to return home from my many Baja trips and wheeling trips in the desert!


I had a transmission failure in the Sierra San Pedro Martir in 2001 due to a leak that needed service. David K just won't stop reminding me about it.




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I've put on over 1,000,000 miles on my Ford 4X4's, over a forty year period, with no major problems! Always able to return home from my many Baja trips and wheeling trips in the desert!


I had a transmission failure in the Sierra San Pedro Martir in 2001 due to a leak that needed service. David K just won't stop reminding me about it.


Seriously, Ken... I am joking about your Jeep... always something to fix on it after each trip (it seems)... Your Ford is old news, and I don't know when I ever kidded you about it... That wasn't a fun time for you and I do have some compassion, afterall.

Just think, if you only did as I did and follow the advice of Neal Johns, then you would have a Toyota and never worry about anything breaking...:light:




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Just think, if you only did as I did and follow the advice of Neal Johns, then you would have a Toyota and never worry about anything breaking...:light:


The Toyota is a very capable pickup. The South American FJ Pickups are straight axled, and come standard with a snorkle, making them extra capable, IMO. But, I didn't want to buy another pickup truck. The ergonomics in the Ranger were terrible, and the lower COG of my Jeep makes it a pleasure to drive. Plus, they're very popular vehicles.

I bought my Ford Ranger pickup in 1996 when I still lived in Michigan after driving an Isuzu-made Mercury Tracer for 220,000 mi. before a sheared piston head led to me selling it. I did see a desert-ified Toyota pickup that was already fixed up that sparked my interest (in Michigan), but my thinking was a vehicle off of the lot in like-new condition would be a safe bet. Not sure if I made a good choice, because 100,000 mi. later the Ranger literally fell apart - piece by expensive piece.

My Jeep does have some issues which need to be resolved soon. The Transmission has developed a 'weeping' spot which might be a worn-out gasket. But, I am watching it very closely. Otherwise, the vehicle is in great condition and I will rebuild it in order to keep the vehicle and not have to purchase another one. I do like the new Tacomas for their size vs. fuel economy. Full size American trucks are more stout, but lag in the economy department. Who really has the money to fork over for all of the gas a V8 or V10 vehicle consumes? Economy seems to be my middle name these days...




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