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bajamedic
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ICON 4X4
Does anyone have any experience with the ICON FJ Series in Baja? It appears to be well built, but all I have is the advertising at this point. JH
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dizzyspots
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and a lot of $$$$$$$$$ to buy one HOLY COW!!
saw one in person on m/c trip thru Cedar City UT...but $60-70K??????
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slimshady
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Those are a rip off. I am rebuilding a 1971 FJ40 from the frame up. I even got the same diesel as the ICON model. That guy wanted to charge me 30k for
the engine and the install. I paid 7k for the engine and another 5 for the NAV 4500 tranny and the install. I am having "Man a fre" in Simi Valley
rebuild a completely new one for half the price you would pay for that fake Toyota. Don't do it! I own a FJ60, a 2004 Landruiser, and am building the
FJ40. You could find a decent used one for 15k if you are lucky. Best offroad vehicles ever made.
Name the worst conceivable place on earth like Afghanistan, Somalia, Central Africa, Libya etc.. Chances are they are driving a toyota Landcruiser or
Hilux through hell and it still runs.
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rob
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Slimshady - totally correct on finding Toyota Landcruisers (and FJs) in very tough places. Did a lot of work in Indonesia in the early 90s, and what
burned me up was the fact that a Landcruiser sold in there for less than half of what it cost in California AND you had a diesel option!
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Ken Cooke
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Their factory is steps from my house. Everyday on my way home from work, I gawk at all of the cool trucks parked outside, while the ICON guys are
upstairs programming on their computers - all visible from the street. I see the employees driving their fixed up Toyota trucks to the factory daily.
They look like they have a very good thing going here in town.
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slimshady
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The Prado, the Hilux, and Pajero. We would be so lucky to have them here in the States.
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Ken Cooke
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I was particularly impressed with the FJ Pickup truck with factory snorkle **AND** straight axle suspension. No (I)nferior (F)ront (S)uspension for
the South American consumers. Toyotas come ready to use off the shelf in that part of the world. 
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classicbajabronco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by dizzyspots
and a lot of $$$$$$$$$ to buy one HOLY COW!!
saw one in person on m/c trip thru Cedar City UT...but $60-70K?????? |
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....from what I read they start at $96 and go to $170k to have one built.
here are some used ones.
http://www.tlc4x4.com/sales2.asp
http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/search/DRauSearchResults...
You could build your own for a fraction of the cost and have better parts...like Dynatrack dana 60 axles..rather than dana 44's out of a rubicon.
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by classicbajabronco
You could build your own for a fraction of the cost and have better parts...like Dynatrack dana 60 axles..rather than dana 44's out of a rubicon.
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Even the Rubicon guys will tell you that. They will even sell you their Dana 44s so that they can buy Dynatrack axles w/the housings.
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slimshady
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You can build one for half the cost. That guy over at TLC marked it up way too much.
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Ken Cooke
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OH WHAT A FEELING TO DRIVE A TOYOTA!
| Quote: | Originally posted by slimshady
You can build one for half the cost. That guy over at TLC marked it up way too much. |
Over-priced is an understatement!
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David K
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The 'overpriced' ICON is NOT a TOYOTA PRODUCT... But, they use a Toyota to build upon... not a Jeep or any American brand vehicle
Interesting, isn't it???
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
The 'overpriced' ICON is NOT a TOYOTA PRODUCT... But, they use a Toyota to build upon... not a Jeep or any American brand vehicle
Interesting, isn't it??? |
I've seen vehicles not born from the Toyoda family being modified at the ICON facilities. Go figure..
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David K
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So Ken, is it just the Toyota look-alikes that ICON makes that are over-priced.. and not the U.S. brand look-alikes???
This thread is about ICONs and how expensive THEY are... I wondered why you said (their) Toyota look-alikes are over-priced, but they aren't coming
from Toyota priced like that, are they?
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
So Ken, is it just the Toyota look-alikes that ICON makes that are over-priced.. and not the U.S. brand look-alikes???
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David - I don't believe you real all of the posts. We are talking about the over-priced Toyota Land Cruiser Association (TLC(A)) rebuilds. You need
to spend some time and hit the hyperlinks, and then respond after you read what everyone else is talking about.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
| Quote: | Originally posted by slimshady
You can build one for half the cost. That guy over at TLC marked it up way too much. |
Over-priced is an understatement!
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Ken, I was only responding to this from you in a thread about ICONs.
No worries... Even if Toyotas cost more... they are sure CHEAPER to own, since they don't typically fail/ break/ need repairs for most of us who have
them... Whay else have they become the world's largest car company... if not for making good vehicles at a reasonable price?
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Would be nice if some of us had that kind of time, Ken.
Udo
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
| Quote: | Originally posted by slimshady
You can build one for half the cost. That guy over at TLC marked it up way too much. |
Over-priced is an understatement!
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Ken, I was only responding to this from you in a thread about ICONs.
No worries... Even if Toyotas cost more... they are sure CHEAPER to own, since they don't typically fail/ break/ need repairs for most of us who have
them... Whay else have they become the world's largest car company... if not for making good vehicles at a reasonable price? |
No - We were talking about the 'TLCs'.
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David K
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Okay, I guess I am way off Ken...
In my world (which I understand isn't all shared by everyone):
I am in a thread about ICON... slims said they are way over priced... and you made a Toyota company comment (Oh what a feeling)... Now it is TLC (what
is that)?
I missed a turnoff from the thread subject, I guess? No worries... we are in different worlds, that's all! 
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slimshady
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The ICON is a basically a kit of the Toyota FJ40 Landcruisr. TLC has taken basically taken the design of the FJ40 and incorporated the ICON with new
construction and engine options. Yes it is a nice ride but for what you will spend with them at TLC, I am building one myself with my own options and
preference for half the costs. Plus it will bear the Toyota badge and not some gecko.
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