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[*] posted on 7-18-2011 at 07:30 PM
what the heck? Dead fish litter our beaches!!!


Yesterday after waving goodbye to the Flying Doctors, Juan, me and the mutts headed out to fish for halibut at el Rincon. The water was too murky with currents churning things up there so we just hung out, played with the dogs and relaxed. On my beach run, I was dismayed to find the beach littered with dead critters....tons of fish called Rana here, some eels, stingrays, guitar fish, billions of crabs all dead or dying in the tide line.



There was a sealion acting very strange too...the dogs kept him from beaching I think but he looked weak and discombubullated...er confused.


Then we saw this guy in distress too and he washed up on the beach...any ideas what it is? Juan thinks the fish that died are deep water species....the water was very very cold yesterday too.




hey Blanca...are you seeing anything like this up your way? Miles and miles of beach are covered with dead fish.




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[*] posted on 7-18-2011 at 07:35 PM


must be a massive upwelling of cold water. it looks like there is no red tide, right?



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[*] posted on 7-18-2011 at 07:54 PM


si...looks like deepwater upwheling...is that how you spell it, your majesty?...doesn't look right?...two "l"s.???



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[*] posted on 7-18-2011 at 08:01 PM


Definitely deep water species sis. That last one looks like a coelacanth. Very strange.



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[*] posted on 7-18-2011 at 08:03 PM
This image show the cold water


In this NOAA image from last week, there is a bubble of extra cold water off your shores.



http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/sst/images/gcal/GCal_GoesSST.gi...




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[*] posted on 7-18-2011 at 08:06 PM


yesterday the water temps took a real dive!!! we'd never seen these species before...weird man



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[*] posted on 7-18-2011 at 08:08 PM


very cold water up north here too.



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[*] posted on 7-18-2011 at 08:09 PM


My guess on the top one..

Roughbar frogfish http://www.mexfish.com/fish/rjfrog/rjfrog.htm
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[*] posted on 7-18-2011 at 08:33 PM


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My guess on the top one..

Roughbar frogfish http://www.mexfish.com/fish/rjfrog/rjfrog.htm


I think you've got it. Definitely a frogfish, I think you can actually see the lure.




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[*] posted on 7-18-2011 at 08:44 PM


yup....we have a winner on the frogfish...cool lure eh!...so what is that snakey looking thing above it and the other big weird fish isnt a coelacanth as it doesnt have those "legs".....what the heck is that thing.



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[*] posted on 7-18-2011 at 08:49 PM


I knew I had seen that last one before on here...

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=53234

http://www.mexfish.com/fish/pacbb/pacbb.htm

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[*] posted on 7-18-2011 at 08:50 PM


Looks kinda like a red brotula - they have a tapered tail fin like that. But I think it's something else. Those are definitely some deepwater fish though.
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[*] posted on 7-18-2011 at 09:12 PM


I knew I could count on you nomads to come through on an ID...bravo Frank! Nobody wanted to eat it cause no one knew what it was...or why it beached. It was alive when it washed ashore....Juan left it out for the coyotes...geezo...maybe we should have it mounted



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[*] posted on 7-18-2011 at 10:36 PM


They're trying to escape the unfavorable conditions down deep. Anoxia or hypoxia caused by severe upwelling is what I came up with while searching the net.

It will be interesting to see if this is followed by a period of red tides like you had about 3 or 4 years ago.
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[*] posted on 7-18-2011 at 10:45 PM


A few weeks ago there was a thread about some fish dead on the beach somewhere on the SoC side....some suggested the fish died from sand being stirred up and fish suffocating with clogged gills....I dunno....but....


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[*] posted on 7-19-2011 at 06:42 AM


Over on this side, a bit north of Mazatlan, a few months ago we visited a beach that was almost solid moray eels littering the sand. No fish, but more eels than one could count. The owner of a small resort nearby said she had never seen that before. Morays are not lovely looking creatures, but nonetheless, hated to see so many dead and dying. Maybe the same phenomenon? The best I could come up with after research, was an abnormal kind of tide.
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[*] posted on 7-19-2011 at 06:51 AM


thanks everyone for your theories....the frog fish did have swollen tongues. There were several species dead including some pargo, baby rock fish too. We did have a large swell a few days ago, but nothing out of the ordinary for here...that large cold water bubble is odd indeed and may have caused it??? sure would like to know the answer.



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[*] posted on 7-19-2011 at 08:13 AM


Maybe that second one is a knifefish?
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[*] posted on 7-19-2011 at 08:37 AM


My fish of the Pacific book says the second fish might be a c-ckscomb.

Belay that, google says max length is 20 CM

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[*] posted on 7-19-2011 at 08:59 AM


http://www.thejump.net/id/pacific-bearded-brotula.htm

That is a pacific bearded brotula.
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