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wsdunc
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East Cape shore fishing braided line
My wife and I will be making a trip to East cape in a couple of months. For once I am not bringing down an arsenal of tackle, if I fish from a boat
I'll have to use whatever tackle they can supply. I did plan to take 2 small spinning set ups for each of us, one8 lb, and one 12-15 lb. These will
be for shore fishing. The 8 lb I am pretty comfortable with and plan to run straight Ande mono. It is the "heavy" one I am unsure about. The only
time I have used braid is for cow tuna on really heavy tackle.
So here are my thoughts. I am thinking about using braid with a mono topshot, and maybe a short shock leader. I hope to have a fighting chance with
a big fish, We can dream right? Although Murphy's law says if we manage a brute fish we'll hook him on the 8lb. Anyhow...
The rod in question I believe is rated for 12-17 lb line. So I have thought about :
20 lb braid/15 lb mono/30 lb shock leader
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30 lb braid/15 lb mono/30 lb shock leader
or
20 lb braid/12 lb mono/30 lb shock leader
or
30 lb braid/15 lb mono/30 lb shock leader
Could I get some opinions about this please? This will be for lure fishing. Maybe the right option is none of the above? Normally I fish with
straight mono, maybe wire leaders if the sierra are around. What I am trying to do is make the most potent weapon I can out of a reasonably small
spinning reel.
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30# straight braid and 6' of whatever 30# flourocarbon leader. Braid is strong but not very abrasion resistant.
My Curado has 60# braid and a 40# flouro leader. The hot lure for us was a Shimano Waxwing. Sexy swimmer with lots of re-bites.
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The limitations are going to be the drag capabilities of the spinning reel. At a 1/3 rule of drag pressure to line breaking point, 30 lb braid, 30lb
flouro, you need 10lbs of drag to even approach the rule "limitations".
Most spinning reels, especially of shore casting size, will not even come close to pulling 10lbs of drag. Pick your braid and go either short top shot
or long, straight flouro. One less knot.
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40# braid, about 20' of 20# flouro top shot, skip the mono. Practice up on your Albright knot technique to join the two.
X2 on the Waxwing, my son in law was using one and it looked great till a backlash of his Curado caused it to sail away into the distance. He hadn't
caught anything on it yet but it looked real "fishy".
Other good bets are crippled herring type of lures (metal, shiny and able to retrieve fast without spinning) or my personal "go to" lure the Rapala
Sub Walk in the silver color.....dt
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Dt, I can now tie the Seaguar knot for mono or floro to braid in the dark, drunk, in the water in three seconds and it will hold. Albright takes me
two weeks with surgeons glasses and special lighting.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Osprey
Dt, I can now tie the Seaguar knot for mono or floro to braid in the dark, drunk, in the water in three seconds and it will hold. Albright takes me
two weeks with surgeons glasses and special lighting. |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabass
Most spinning reels, especially of shore casting size, will not even come close to pulling 10lbs of drag. |
Actually, that's not true at all.
If you look at the specs on Shimano or Diawa spinning reels you would be stunned at how high the max. drag is. Shimano 5000 series have a max drag
over 20lb. On the high end, An 8000 series Stella has 55lb at full drag.
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120 lb. test dacron will drag most anything in eventually. All you have to do is hang on crank it in.
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Have you priced those reels? I know that they catch billfish and truly large tuna on spinners.
Just checked the Stella models online 700-950$$$$$. 
Maybe, but never for a beach rod!
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baja spinner
My spinner is a BaitRunner with 15 lb mono, nothing fancy but works fine soaking bait or crocks/castmasters on San Bruno Rocks etc. That and a 3/0
Penn w 25-30lb make my basic kit. Both are on old but still nice Kunnan rods. I have a couple of Alvey rigs for shore casting.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
120 lb. test dacron will drag most anything in eventually. All you have to do is hang on crank it in. |
Yup, and if you tie a really good spool knot, it may drag you in!!!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabass
| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
120 lb. test dacron will drag most anything in eventually. All you have to do is hang on crank it in. |
Yup, and if you tie a really good spool knot, it may drag you in!!!
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Only if you're a wimp.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Osprey
Dt, I can now tie the Seaguar knot for mono or floro to braid in the dark, drunk, in the water in three seconds and it will hold. Albright takes me
two weeks with surgeons glasses and special lighting. |
The main reason that I use the Albright is that if it is done right it will be small and travel through the guides without hanging up on them.
I don't use spinning gear so this is more critical as the guides are much smaller on conventional rods. Even a momentary snag of the knot as you are
casting with braid can be disastrous....
I actually picked this mess out after 2 days and 2 6packs or beer, the Salas 6oz jig that I was casting disappeared out of sight headed for
Mazatlan....dt
[Edited on 7-22-2011 by dtbushpilot]
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The Kunnans were one of the first, decent, affordable rods from Asia that I can recall. I've still got one that I use from the mid 80's.
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One of the better bird's nests I've ever seen DT! I've come close with my Avet MXL throwing iron from the beach. A big knot will get you every
time
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20 or 30 lb Sufix spectra to 30# flouro topshot with a 14 turn albright. Thread the tag end ot the albright through the loop twice when finishing the
knot. Some folks will hit the knot with a cyanoacrylic glue but I've never had a problem.
Use a loop knot on your jigs and it will improve the action.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabass
Maybe, but never for a beach rod! |
Agree to disagree. Not that I own a Stella...but I lust for one badly.
Stella aside...there are more affordable spinning reels that have the drag and capacity to catch big fish from shore.
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One of the many benefits...
DT...for many years my co-pilota has been a textile artist. She's in the habit of tying intricate knots in literally hundreds of strings at the same
time. She is not only GREAT at untangling a backlash, she enjoys doing it! I wouldn't trade her for a damned good truck.
Also I landed a heavy 3 1/2 foot ray from the rocks, through the kelp, at San Roque with 12 pound cheapo mono on a WalMart combo outfit. It ain't all
in the equipo!
[Edited on 7-22-2011 by vgabndo]
[Edited on 7-22-2011 by vgabndo]
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Wsdunc, I have a little different take on on your set-up I would go with 20# or 30# Braid and 15# flouro straight tie(Seagur). Back off the drag a
bit. It will be very sensitive and you need to pay attention. Keep the rod up and let it be the back-up shock absorber. I fish from shore and off
kayaks a lot with spinning reels. Big fish on light lines are so much fun.
[Edited on 7-23-2011 by MMc]
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Me....too many times that I have been .....at the hot spot....and not have that one darn thing I left at home.
Better pack everything.. for a good fishing day.
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