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Valle de Trinidad dirt road
Anyone been on the dirt road connecting Highway 3 (at Lazaro Card##as) with Highway One (below San Vicente) recently? I'm considering this bypass and
was wondering what the road condition is and how long it might take to travel it.
While I'm at it, anyone been on the Calamajue Canyon road lately? I'm talking about the road from the old El Crucero Ranch turnoff to San Luiz Gonzaga
Bay.
[Edited on 8-8-2011 by Bajatripper]
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I was on it in April and it was OK. They ran the Baja 500 on it as they always do in June. I don't remember any really bad spots. I would not pull a
big trailer over it. It's about 35-40 miles so your looking at 1.5 to 2 hrs at least. It can be done faster if in a hurry. I'm assuming you will be
driving a PU or SUV, something with clearance.
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Valle de Trinidad to San Vicente
We also ran that road just a bit earlier than TW.
Sure took longer than I recalled from earlier trips, TW says 1.5 to 2 hours and I think we were over 2 hours but I'm probably older and slower than
he.
Road surface is ok and once you get a couple of miles out of Valle de Trinidad there is no where to go wrong as I recall.
John M
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| Quote: | Originally posted by TW
I was on it in April and it was OK. They ran the Baja 500 on it as they always do in June. I don't remember any really bad spots. I would not pull a
big trailer over it. It's about 35-40 miles so your looking at 1.5 to 2 hrs at least. It can be done faster if in a hurry. I'm assuming you will be
driving a PU or SUV, something with clearance. |
Thanks, TW and John M. Just what I wanted to hear.
[Edited on 8-9-2011 by Bajatripper]
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Calamajue Canyon gets chewed up good when the 1000 uses it, but as all things in Nature, it does heal in time. I remember one extra deep hole (in the
stream you are driving in) when I was in it last (2002)!
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David..will you post a map of exactly where we are talking about? I seem to be a bit foggy here about the area.....txs in advance
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Tripper...
I've been across it a couple of times...
Once in the Ford F250 with Callen camper and pulling a 14ft. trailer with quads. Never felt like I needed to use 4 wheel drive. It was quite an
experience. Had a flat on the trailer half way through. The rim was dented on the lip, guess I hit a rock. Pulled out the 3lb short-handled sledge
and punded it back in shape. Aired it up and it worked fine!
Second time was on a quad. That was a blast! Hauled Buttski the whole way.
Anyway...it's a fairly typical Baja dirt road. Ruts, rocks, maybe mud and can be narrow in some places. Take your time and be careful and you
shouldn't have any problems.
Have fun!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
David..will you post a map of exactly where we are talking about? I seem to be a bit foggy here about the area.....txs in advance
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The canyon begins near the Calamajue misson site and continues south for 7 miles, much of it is driven directly in the stream. The southern end of
this road meets Highway 1 at the site of the former rancho 'El Crucero' from the late 60's and early 70's.
This was the main route of Hwy. 5 until the new graded road was built in 1982 between Laguna Chapala and the junction we call today 'Coco's Corner'.
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I late April, where the road was improved with some red dirt, it was washboard, when I got to the sand without anything added it smoothed out. Not a
bad road at all.
This is the Valle de Trinidad cut off I'm talking about.
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Bajatripper is asking about two different roads, unless you mention 'Valle Trinidad to San Vicente' or 'Calamajue to El Crucero', it might be
confusing with some answers!  
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Thanks David....
I was thinking it was somewhere other than this.
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
Thanks David....
I was thinking it was somewhere other than this. |
Well, as I said, Tripper is asking about two far different roads... and except for mine, all answers are about the Valle de Trinidad to San Vicente
road.
Are you also asking for a map of that road or were you wondering about the one I responded to?
[Edited on 8-9-2011 by David K]
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El Crucero to Gonzaga
Baja Tripper edited his post, David, subsequent to TW and I posting - at the time he had only asked about the Valle de Trinidad road.
Baja Tripper - we drove El Crucero to Gonzaga via Calamajue Wash last October and have driven it a good number of times. The conditions don't change
much although the exact route moves around a bit as you go through the muddy section near to exiting Arroyo Calamajue.
I would certainly recommend 4x4 due to some soft sand and the aforementioned mud. I have no doubt NOMADS have driven it in two wheel drive but I sure
think you'd stand a pretty good chance of spending lots of time on the end of a shovel.
I can provide GPS data and exact mileages we measured to go along with the map David K posted if you wish.
John M
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Calamajue Canyon gets chewed up good when the 1000 uses it, but as all things in Nature, it does heal in time. I remember one extra deep hole (in the
stream you are driving in) when I was in it last (2002)! |
Yeah, I remember that hole well, and that was four years ago for me. I usually am not so "cautious," but when I travel with my daughter, I tend to
think things through a little bit more.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by John M
Baja Tripper - we drove El Crucero to Gonzaga via Calamajue Wash last October and have driven it a good number of times. The conditions don't change
much although the exact route moves around a bit as you go through the muddy section near to exiting Arroyo Calamajue.
I would certainly recommend 4x4 due to some soft sand and the aforementioned mud. I have no doubt NOMADS have driven it in two wheel drive but I sure
think you'd stand a pretty good chance of spending lots of time on the end of a shovel.
John M |
Thanks, John. While I won't need the GPS coordinates (you've already provided what I was looking for with this second post), perhaps others (Mcfez?)
might be interested, so please, post away.
As usual, I am most impressed with the wealth of info our fellow Nomads provide. Thanks to all.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
Thanks David....
I was thinking it was somewhere other than this. |
Well, as I said, Tripper is asking about two far different roads... and except for mine, all answers are about the Valle de Trinidad to San Vicente
road.
Are you also asking for a map of that road or were you wondering about the one I responded to?
[Edited on 8-9-2011 by David K] |
I assumed it was the road leaving the back side of San Felipe to Mex 3
I was going to buy a new GPS.....but was thinking that if I could glue your ass onto my dash board....that be better
Regards, and thanks David
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
Thanks David....
I was thinking it was somewhere other than this. |
Well, as I said, Tripper is asking about two far different roads... and except for mine, all answers are about the Valle de Trinidad to San Vicente
road.
Are you also asking for a map of that road or were you wondering about the one I responded to?
[Edited on 8-9-2011 by David K] |
I assumed it was the road leaving the back side of San Felipe to Mex 3
I was going to buy a new GPS.....but was thinking that if I could glue your burro onto my dash board....that be better
Regards, and thanks David |
Oh, well that is a third and different road altogether! LOL
It is the original Ensenada to San Felipe route, but some of it is now graded. Used mostly to go to Valle Chico, Diablo Dry Lake and Diablo Canyon (at
the foot of Diablo Mountain).
Many use the cut off from Hwy. 5 at the storage building... this is after El Dorado Ranch closed the original (but regraded) road from the big
Rockadile sign... the older route across here was called the Zoo Road by off road racers as there used to be a curio shop on Hwy. 5 called the San
Felipe Zoo. It sold wood carvings of animal shapes, etc.
Here is a map (AAA) with two routes across Baja (to or from San Felipe) shown... One is Bajatrippers Valle de Trinidad to San Vicente route and the
other is through Mike's Sky Rancho.
The Diablo Dry Lake road that goes right to the arches in San Felipe is shown.
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So...I am not nutz after all
Gods...I love it out there.
Txs DK
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Bajatripper is asking about two different roads, unless you mention 'Valle Trinidad to San Vicente' or 'Calamajue to El Crucero', it might be
confusing with some answers! |
David, the road in question heads west from Valle Trinidad and connects with highway 1 a bit north of Colonet.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Bajatripper is asking about two different roads, unless you mention 'Valle Trinidad to San Vicente' or 'Calamajue to El Crucero', it might be
confusing with some answers! |
David, the road in question heads west from Valle Trinidad and connects with highway 1 a bit north of Colonet. |
I have been on it Dave, and it is just south of San Vicente (8 miles) and 15 miles north of Colonet... same road.
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