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windgrrl
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B.C. man freed after 3 years in Mexican jail
Follow-up to Los Barriles story on CBC website tonight:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2011/08/18/bc-jailed-in-mexico-man-freed.html
A Vancouver man has been reunited with his family after spending three and a half years in a Mexican prison on drug charges apparently laid by
mistake.
Pavel Kulisek was greeted by his wife and two daughters as he arrived in Vancouver Thursday after a Mexican judge on Tuesday cleared him of drug
trafficking charges for lack of evidence.
Kulisek was arrested in Mexico in March 2008 while on an extended vacation with his family.
Police swooped into a restaurant on the Baja Peninsula while he was having dinner with two Mexican men, one who had been a neighbour and another to
whom Kulisek had sold construction materials, Kulisek said.
It turned out that both men were involved in the drug trade, which Kulisek claims he did not know.
Kulisek's case never came to trial. His lawyer said a background check performed by the RCMP showed that his client was not involved in any prior
criminal activity.
"I would like to extend my deepest gratitude to those who have supported and helped Pavel and our family during our painful journey over the past
three years," said Kulisek's wife, Jirina, said in a release Thursday. "Without all of you, my girls and I would not have survived this terrible
ordeal."
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lucky guy..... how much does the Mexican Judicial system pay innocent people for each year they are wrongly incarcerated?
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Quote: | Originally posted by windgrrl
Kulisek's case never came to trial. |
Three and a half years in a smelly prison without being sentenced?
Nice place, this Mexico. I'd be more worried about this type of crime long before I would about street crap.
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Really glad to hear that things are going right and family is back together.
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originally posted by Dennis
"Three and a half years in a smelly prison without being sentenced?"
That's nothing. There is no such thing as a right to a speedy trial in Mexico.
He was fortunate that after having an "Autoformal de prision" dictated against him that he was released. They could have given him seven years.
Napoleanic Code=guilty until proven innocent.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Loretana
originally posted by Dennis
"Three and a half years in a smelly prison without being sentenced?"
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That's nothing. Napoleanic Code=guilty until proven innocent. |
Thanks for the civics lesson, but I ain't new here.
And...if you think "That's nothing," I'd say you've been down here way too long and could use a refresher course in human dignity.
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Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
Really glad to hear that things are going right and family is back together. |
things did not go right. the victim was victimized with 3-years of incarceration.
f*ck the mexican legal system!
if you learn anything from this: perhaps the lesson should be do not befriend mexicans until you know their background.
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I have followed the story closely, this is a complicated. If you recall Pavel was fingered in a setup at the hotdog stand by US enforcement in LB,
undercover FBI supposedly. The FBI turned over their notes to Mexico who put Pavel on a plane to prison and attempted to sort it out, in affect
demonstrating that the initial US investigation was incomplete. All countries have systems of justice that work slowly and sometimes unfairly.
I am glad to hear that as of today, Pavel Kulisek is free, alive and back with his family, that's a better result than most unfair prosecution cases
initiated by undercover FBI/DEA.
Notice that all too often the US Mexican drug war gets small time side liners, often innocents and top capos continue onward? That's a fact and an
obvious factor to an intentionally flawed and corrupt system.
The lesson to be learned is be careful who you associate with, be cautious about joining in partnerships with people you do not know well. Consider
doing a thorough investigation of people you choose to work with, name, address, family? and associate with and when you see red flags or things do
not add up, such as income, work, lifestyle, facts, understand that red flags are signs of trouble.
Especially when someone new and flashy chooses you as their real estate bagman it's probably not a good thing.
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It wasn't Dudley Dooright who rode to his rescue? I'm surprised the RCMP had that much juice in Meixco.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
Notice that all too often the US Mexican drug war gets small time side liners, often innocents and top capos continue onward? That's a fact and an
obvious factor to an intentionally flawed and corrupt system.
The lesson to be learned is be careful who you associate with, be cautious about joining in partnerships with people you do not know well. Consider
doing a thorough investigation of people you choose to work with, name, address, family? and associate with and when you see red flags or things do
not add up, such as income, work, lifestyle, facts, understand that red flags are signs of trouble.
Especially when someone new and flashy chooses you as their real estate bagman it's probably not a good thing. |
...or if there might be a $2 million bounty on your new best friend:
http://www.justice.gov/dea/fugitives/sandiego/arellano-felix.html
When the way comes to an end, then change. Having changed, you pass through.
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Quote: |
The lesson to be learned is be careful who you associate with, be cautious about joining in partnerships with people you do not know well. Consider
doing a thorough investigation of people you choose to work with, name, address, family? and associate with and when you see red flags or things do
not add up, such as income, work, lifestyle, facts, understand that red flags are signs of trouble.
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about that time you'd find yourself sinking into a vat of acid.....
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Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Three and a half years in a smelly prison without being sentenced?
Nice place, this Mexico. |
West Memphis 3 anyone?
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Three and a half years in a smelly prison without being sentenced?
Nice place, this Mexico. I'd be more worried about this type of crime long before I would about street crap.
Thanks God that doesn't happen in the US of A
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Glad to hear Pavel is back with his family. My heart goes out to this family thinking of the time he missed with his children, wife, and the
destruction of his life that this caused.
[Edited on 8-20-2011 by UnoMas]
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Quote: | Originally posted by drarroyo
Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Three and a half years in a smelly prison without being sentenced?
Nice place, this Mexico. |
West Memphis 3 anyone? |
They were sentenced.
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very sad story, IMO. be careful who you associate with is very good advice !!
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Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
Notice that all too often the US Mexican drug war gets small time side liners, often innocents and top capos continue onward? That's a fact and an
obvious factor to an intentionally flawed and corrupt system.
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No doubt. What a joke this war on drugs is. FBI agents in Los Barriles?...chasing down dime bags of blow at local watering holes I have to assume?
US tax dollars hard at work!
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The law caught a bigger fish and some of his friends in LB that day:
"U.S. citizen Gustavo Rivera Martinez, 42, who is also suspected of being a high-ranking Arellano member, is a Bonita Vista High School graduate who
has relatives on the U.S. side of the border, according to U.S. authorities. The DEA offered a $2 million reward for information leading to his
capture."
Link to full article "Leading Lives of Quiet Deception" (or perhaps "lay down with dogs, get up with fleas"):
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20040628/news_1n28oc...
Quote: | Originally posted by Cardon Man
Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
Notice that all too often the US Mexican drug war gets small time side liners, often innocents and top capos continue onward? That's a fact and an
obvious factor to an intentionally flawed and corrupt system.
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No doubt. What a joke this war on drugs is. FBI agents in Los Barriles?...chasing down dime bags of blow at local watering holes I have to assume?
US tax dollars hard at work! | [url=http:
[Edited on 8-20-2011 by windgrrl]
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I didn't notice a direct mention of the los barriles arrest in that article. Not to say that connection isn't reality.
Nonetheless, the capture of any individual members of any cartel ( be it oil or meth ) will do nothing to deter the business and flow of product
overall.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Cardon Man
I didn't notice a direct mention of the los barriles arrest in that article. Not to say that connection isn't reality.
Nonetheless, the capture of any individual members of any cartel ( be it oil or meth ) will do nothing to deter the business and flow of product
overall. |
Here's the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrZbKb6_NGE
Here's Pavel's synopsis of the ordeal on his website:
http://www.pavelkulisek.com/
When the way comes to an end, then change. Having changed, you pass through.
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