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[*] posted on 8-18-2011 at 07:51 PM
B.C. man freed after 3 years in Mexican jail


Follow-up to Los Barriles story on CBC website tonight:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2011/08/18/bc-jailed-in-mexico-man-freed.html
A Vancouver man has been reunited with his family after spending three and a half years in a Mexican prison on drug charges apparently laid by mistake.

Pavel Kulisek was greeted by his wife and two daughters as he arrived in Vancouver Thursday after a Mexican judge on Tuesday cleared him of drug trafficking charges for lack of evidence.

Kulisek was arrested in Mexico in March 2008 while on an extended vacation with his family.

Police swooped into a restaurant on the Baja Peninsula while he was having dinner with two Mexican men, one who had been a neighbour and another to whom Kulisek had sold construction materials, Kulisek said.

It turned out that both men were involved in the drug trade, which Kulisek claims he did not know.

Kulisek's case never came to trial. His lawyer said a background check performed by the RCMP showed that his client was not involved in any prior criminal activity.

"I would like to extend my deepest gratitude to those who have supported and helped Pavel and our family during our painful journey over the past three years," said Kulisek's wife, Jirina, said in a release Thursday. "Without all of you, my girls and I would not have survived this terrible ordeal."




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[*] posted on 8-18-2011 at 07:54 PM


lucky guy..... how much does the Mexican Judicial system pay innocent people for each year they are wrongly incarcerated?



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[*] posted on 8-18-2011 at 08:30 PM


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Kulisek's case never came to trial.



Three and a half years in a smelly prison without being sentenced?
Nice place, this Mexico. I'd be more worried about this type of crime long before I would about street crap.
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[*] posted on 8-18-2011 at 08:41 PM


Really glad to hear that things are going right and family is back together.
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[*] posted on 8-18-2011 at 10:04 PM


originally posted by Dennis

"Three and a half years in a smelly prison without being sentenced?"


That's nothing. There is no such thing as a right to a speedy trial in Mexico.

He was fortunate that after having an "Autoformal de prision" dictated against him that he was released. They could have given him seven years.

Napoleanic Code=guilty until proven innocent.




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[*] posted on 8-19-2011 at 06:19 AM


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originally posted by Dennis
"Three and a half years in a smelly prison without being sentenced?"
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That's nothing. Napoleanic Code=guilty until proven innocent.


Thanks for the civics lesson, but I ain't new here.
And...if you think "That's nothing," I'd say you've been down here way too long and could use a refresher course in human dignity.
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[*] posted on 8-19-2011 at 08:12 AM


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Really glad to hear that things are going right and family is back together.


things did not go right. the victim was victimized with 3-years of incarceration.

f*ck the mexican legal system!

if you learn anything from this: perhaps the lesson should be do not befriend mexicans until you know their background.
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[*] posted on 8-19-2011 at 08:40 AM


I have followed the story closely, this is a complicated. If you recall Pavel was fingered in a setup at the hotdog stand by US enforcement in LB, undercover FBI supposedly. The FBI turned over their notes to Mexico who put Pavel on a plane to prison and attempted to sort it out, in affect demonstrating that the initial US investigation was incomplete. All countries have systems of justice that work slowly and sometimes unfairly.

I am glad to hear that as of today, Pavel Kulisek is free, alive and back with his family, that's a better result than most unfair prosecution cases initiated by undercover FBI/DEA.

Notice that all too often the US Mexican drug war gets small time side liners, often innocents and top capos continue onward? That's a fact and an obvious factor to an intentionally flawed and corrupt system.

The lesson to be learned is be careful who you associate with, be cautious about joining in partnerships with people you do not know well. Consider doing a thorough investigation of people you choose to work with, name, address, family? and associate with and when you see red flags or things do not add up, such as income, work, lifestyle, facts, understand that red flags are signs of trouble.

Especially when someone new and flashy chooses you as their real estate bagman it's probably not a good thing.
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[*] posted on 8-19-2011 at 08:52 AM


It wasn't Dudley Dooright who rode to his rescue? I'm surprised the RCMP had that much juice in Meixco.



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[*] posted on 8-19-2011 at 09:15 AM


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Notice that all too often the US Mexican drug war gets small time side liners, often innocents and top capos continue onward? That's a fact and an obvious factor to an intentionally flawed and corrupt system.

The lesson to be learned is be careful who you associate with, be cautious about joining in partnerships with people you do not know well. Consider doing a thorough investigation of people you choose to work with, name, address, family? and associate with and when you see red flags or things do not add up, such as income, work, lifestyle, facts, understand that red flags are signs of trouble.

Especially when someone new and flashy chooses you as their real estate bagman it's probably not a good thing.


...or if there might be a $2 million bounty on your new best friend:
http://www.justice.gov/dea/fugitives/sandiego/arellano-felix.html




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[*] posted on 8-19-2011 at 10:55 AM


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The lesson to be learned is be careful who you associate with, be cautious about joining in partnerships with people you do not know well. Consider doing a thorough investigation of people you choose to work with, name, address, family? and associate with and when you see red flags or things do not add up, such as income, work, lifestyle, facts, understand that red flags are signs of trouble.


about that time you'd find yourself sinking into a vat of acid.....:light:




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[*] posted on 8-19-2011 at 11:06 AM


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Three and a half years in a smelly prison without being sentenced?
Nice place, this Mexico.


West Memphis 3 anyone? :fire:
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[*] posted on 8-19-2011 at 02:03 PM


Three and a half years in a smelly prison without being sentenced?
Nice place, this Mexico. I'd be more worried about this type of crime long before I would about street crap.

Thanks God that doesn't happen in the US of A:o
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[*] posted on 8-19-2011 at 08:08 PM


Glad to hear Pavel is back with his family. My heart goes out to this family thinking of the time he missed with his children, wife, and the destruction of his life that this caused.:mad:

[Edited on 8-20-2011 by UnoMas]
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[*] posted on 8-19-2011 at 08:10 PM


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Three and a half years in a smelly prison without being sentenced?
Nice place, this Mexico.


West Memphis 3 anyone? :fire:


They were sentenced.
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[*] posted on 8-19-2011 at 08:30 PM


very sad story, IMO. be careful who you associate with is very good advice !!




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[*] posted on 8-20-2011 at 03:26 PM


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Notice that all too often the US Mexican drug war gets small time side liners, often innocents and top capos continue onward? That's a fact and an obvious factor to an intentionally flawed and corrupt system.



No doubt. What a joke this war on drugs is. FBI agents in Los Barriles?...chasing down dime bags of blow at local watering holes I have to assume? US tax dollars hard at work!
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[*] posted on 8-20-2011 at 04:03 PM


The law caught a bigger fish and some of his friends in LB that day:

"U.S. citizen Gustavo Rivera Martinez, 42, who is also suspected of being a high-ranking Arellano member, is a Bonita Vista High School graduate who has relatives on the U.S. side of the border, according to U.S. authorities. The DEA offered a $2 million reward for information leading to his capture."

Link to full article "Leading Lives of Quiet Deception" (or perhaps "lay down with dogs, get up with fleas"):
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20040628/news_1n28oc...


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Notice that all too often the US Mexican drug war gets small time side liners, often innocents and top capos continue onward? That's a fact and an obvious factor to an intentionally flawed and corrupt system.



No doubt. What a joke this war on drugs is. FBI agents in Los Barriles?...chasing down dime bags of blow at local watering holes I have to assume? US tax dollars hard at work!
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[*] posted on 8-20-2011 at 04:42 PM


I didn't notice a direct mention of the los barriles arrest in that article. Not to say that connection isn't reality.
Nonetheless, the capture of any individual members of any cartel ( be it oil or meth ) will do nothing to deter the business and flow of product overall.
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[*] posted on 8-20-2011 at 07:42 PM


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I didn't notice a direct mention of the los barriles arrest in that article. Not to say that connection isn't reality.
Nonetheless, the capture of any individual members of any cartel ( be it oil or meth ) will do nothing to deter the business and flow of product overall.



Here's the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrZbKb6_NGE

Here's Pavel's synopsis of the ordeal on his website:
http://www.pavelkulisek.com/




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