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San Ysidro POE: Couple robbed at gunpoint while waiting in line to cross.
You really don't have a lot of self defense options when you are moving 2mph bumper to bumper and thugs come up on both sides of your car with guns.
How many people do you think witnessed this at 2:40 pm? It just seems to be getting worse as criminals pick the lowest hanging fruit- but with
precision...
Looks like an inside bank job to me and the couple would have been robbed no matter where they went. The line just made it as easy as stealing candy
from a kid on Halloween.
http://www.el-mexicano.com.mx/informacion/noticias/1/22/poli...
Armed robbers continue attacking with impunity the drivers who are in line to cross to the US through the San Ysidro station.
The most recent victims - Israel Cerón Ramírez and Juan Márquez Olmos - 30 and 40-years of age, respectively, complained that yesterday afternoon two
men relieved them of 99,300 pesos, a laser visa and two blackberry cellphones.
The explained that around 12:40PM they were waiting to cross to the US in a 1998 Buick Century in the Via Rapida Oriente, when two criminals
approached on both sides, they threatened them with guns and took the money just minutes after they had withdrawn the money from Bancomer Zona Rio.
[Edited on 10-29-2011 by Woooosh]
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DENNIS
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Too bad they didn't do a money transfer. Lots of questions come with this report.
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sanquintinsince73
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Three weeks ago my wife's brother was almost robbed at the San Ysidro POE in broad daylight. Two men approached him with weapons and demanded his
money. He panicked and hit the gas and rammed two vehicles. The crooks ran away but he is still in a bad state and receiving treatment from a shrink.
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JoeJustJoe
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Armed robbers continue attacking with impunity the drivers who are in line to cross to the US through the San Ysidro station.
The line sounds a little inflammatory and reminds me of sensationalistic reporting you sometimes see in the news.
So robbers are attacking with impunity based on this one attacked and another attack two weeks ago?
You would think if robbers are acting with impunity that this would be happening everyday, and night and there would be a lot more incidents and
victims to report about especially if it was happening to US citizens so close to the border.
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It is happening every day and night. You would think? What would you think? Do you think?
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DENNIS
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Joe.....if there's anything inflammatory around here, it's you and your sheit stirring ways.
Wassamatta....arn't you getting enough attention in OT?
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JoeJustJoe
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The most recent victims - Israel Cerón Ramírez and Juan Márquez Olmos - 30 and 40-years of age, respectively, complained that yesterday
afternoon two men relieved them of 99,300 pesos, a laser visa and two blackberry cellphones.
Why were they taking 99,300 peso to the USA which is equivalent to over $7000 dollars?
Perhaps the robbers saw them withdraw money from the bank and followed them, which is probably the case.
Woooosh quit trying to scare Nomad members. This looks like a simple robbery some foolish people were seeing withdrawing a lot of money from a bank.
You also have to question taking out that much pesos and then crossing the border to the US side. What were they going to do with 99,300 pesos they
just withdrew from a bank on their way to the USA?
This robbery most likely has nothing to do with gringos crossing back into the US border while in bumper to bumper traffic and getting robbed with
impunity by Mexican robbers.
[Edited on 10-29-2011 by JoeJustJoe]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
Why were they taking 99,300 peso to the USA which is equivalent to over $7000 dollars? |
Well...I guess if they had read the rules of the world, they would have explained it to you in advance.
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Perhaps the robbers saw them withdraw money from the bank and followed them, which is probably the case. |
No. No way. That's absurd. You're absurd. What obviously happened was, an employee in the bank called a scum-buddy and told him of the withdrawal.
Scummy and his cohort, Crappy, followed the victims into the line and robbed them.
Now....we have to find out which bank it was so we can send out WWW Warnings and boycot the place.
Yep....ASAP.
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[Edited on 10-29-2011 by DENNIS]
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sanquintinsince73
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
Armed robbers continue attacking with impunity the drivers who are in line to cross to the US through the San Ysidro station.
The line sounds a little inflammatory and reminds me of sensationalistic reporting you sometimes see in the news.
So robbers are attacking with impunity based on this one attacked and another attack two weeks ago?
You would think if robbers are acting with impunity that this would be happening everyday, and night and there would be a lot more incidents and
victims to report about especially if it was happening to US citizens so close to the border. |
As the holidays draw closer crime will increase in Mexico as usual. The border robberies IMHO are a niche that hadn't yet been discovered by the bad
guys. Thousands of cars waiting in line with minimal police presence, this was bound to happen. I fear for those who cross on the right side by the
river bed, the homeless who live in the "rio" are a nasty bunch.
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JoeJustJoe
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OK it might have gone down the way Dennis believes and a bank employee may have been involved.
But what's least likely to have occurred is the the way Woooosh presents the story based on the the article in the "El Mexicano" that both try to
paint a picture that this was a random event at the border. And that gringos returning to the USA should be very scared very scared of getting
robbed in bumper to bumper traffic by Mexican rateros acting with impunity.
Then again perhaps Woooosh is correct, and the robbers were just very lucky to pick the right people in line to rob that that thousands of dollars(
pesos)
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
OK it might have gone down the way Dennis believes and a bank employee may have been involved.
But what's least likely to have occurred is the the way Woooosh presents the story based on the the article in the "El Mexicano" that both try to
paint a picture that this was a random event at the border. And that gringos returning to the USA should be very scared very scared of getting
robbed in bumper to bumper traffic by Mexican rateros acting with impunity.
Then again perhaps Woooosh is correct, and the robbers were just very lucky to pick the right people in line to rob that that thousands of dollars(
pesos) |
I said this in the first post: "Looks like an inside bank job to me and the couple would have been robbed no matter where they went. " Can't you
read a whole post all the way through Joe?
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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JoeJustJoe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
| Quote: | Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
Armed robbers continue attacking with impunity the drivers who are in line to cross to the US through the San Ysidro station.
The line sounds a little inflammatory and reminds me of sensationalistic reporting you sometimes see in the news.
So robbers are attacking with impunity based on this one attacked and another attack two weeks ago?
You would think if robbers are acting with impunity that this would be happening everyday, and night and there would be a lot more incidents and
victims to report about especially if it was happening to US citizens so close to the border. |
As the holidays draw closer crime will increase in Mexico as usual. The border robberies IMHO are a niche that hadn't yet been discovered by the bad
guys. Thousands of cars waiting in line with minimal police presence, this was bound to happen. I fear for those who cross on the right side by the
river bed, the homeless who live in the "rio" are a nasty bunch. |
Yeah Yeah Sanquintinsince I hear all those stories too, but the story is suppose to be about corrupt Mexican cops who have to buy Christmas presents
too, and they need to pass the money they shakedown from hapless gringos and Mexican citizens up the chain of command to their bosses.
The problem is a lot of those stories are really old, and just never really go away despite changes how things operate today. For example in Tijuana.
Shakedowns of gringos use to be really bad. They haven't been too bad now the last two or three years. There also doesn't seem to be any uptick in
crime around Christmas time than any other time of the year the last few years. Yet you always hear these same stories how corrupt cops are really bad
around Christmas time.
If robbers were robbing people in impunity back to the USA. It would be a simple fix to put more police where the people are returning because it's
such a small area to watch over.
[Edited on 10-29-2011 by JoeJustJoe]
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JoeJustJoe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
OK it might have gone down the way Dennis believes and a bank employee may have been involved.
But what's least likely to have occurred is the the way Woooosh presents the story based on the the article in the "El Mexicano" that both try to
paint a picture that this was a random event at the border. And that gringos returning to the USA should be very scared very scared of getting
robbed in bumper to bumper traffic by Mexican rateros acting with impunity.
Then again perhaps Woooosh is correct, and the robbers were just very lucky to pick the right people in line to rob that that thousands of dollars(
pesos) |
I said this in the first post: "Looks like an inside bank job to me and the couple would have been robbed no matter where they went. " Can't you
read a whole post all the way through Joe? |
In that case you should put this post in a police blotter type post, and not give it Nomad front page news.
The article and you Woooosh also present this incident as a random event by robbers acting with impunity in long line at the US/Mexican border.
I call that " Sensationalism" at it's finest designed to scare Americans about Mexico.
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DENNIS
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It's just no fun if we can't blame somebody. Nobody has to take it personally.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
The article and you Woooosh also present this incident as a random event by robbers acting with impunity in long line at the US/Mexican border.
I call that " Sensationalism" at it's finest designed to scare Americans about Mexico. |
Say what? The article is in a Mexican newspaper and written in Spanish. Please tell us again how it was "designed to scare Americans about Mexico."
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
It's just no fun if we can't blame somebody. Nobody has to take it personally. |
yeah- what Dennis said.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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How convenient
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
The most recent victims - Israel Cerón Ramírez and Juan Márquez Olmos - 30 and 40-years of age, respectively, complained that yesterday afternoon two
men relieved them of 99,300 pesos, a laser visa and two blackberry cellphones.
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Just under the limit of what one can take out of Mexico without reporting.
What are the odds? 
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JoeJustJoe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mengano
| Quote: | Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
The article and you Woooosh also present this incident as a random event by robbers acting with impunity in long line at the US/Mexican border.
I call that " Sensationalism" at it's finest designed to scare Americans about Mexico. |
Say what? The article is in a Mexican newspaper and written in Spanish. Please tell us again how it was "designed to scare Americans about Mexico."
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The Mexican/Baja papers know the San Diego reporters do no real reporting, and get most of their border news from the Mexican papers, and these
articles often find their way to the San Diego papers based on their "sensationalistic" content and interest. Thank God the San Diego papers ignore
these type of stories now, but in the past "Fox News" might have got hold of this story and made it seems like Gringos right and left were getting
robbed returning to the US border.
And then there is Woooosh your protege Mengano. You taught him well, and in my opinion he presented the story in a careless way backing up the
opinion of the article writer that robbers are acting with impunity at the US/Mexican border when clearly this looks like an isolated incident of
Mexican Nationals carrying a lot of money and were robbed because they were either tipped off or followed. ( Woooosh did mention it might have been an
inside job, but he didn't challenge the Mexican paper in anyway)
[Edited on 10-29-2011 by JoeJustJoe]
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Robbery
Couple??
Certainty is the child of ignorance, knowledge is the mother of doubt. Question everything!
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Woooosh
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"(Woooosh did mention it might have been an inside job, but he didn't challenge the Mexican paper in anyway)"
Woooosh will not being taking on the role of Mexican Print Media Critic in this lifetime- unless Zeta should trash him in an upcoming article.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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