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john/gerda
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GPS for your car in Baja,,,what works ?
Hi Everyone,,,,John and Gerda here..
Would like to know about GPS in your vehicle for driving directions and such in Baja Mexico.
Do the popular brands such as Magellan or Garmin or McNally work in Baja, and does any one know the fees?
Thanks,,,,,,
John and Gerda
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David K
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Hi! Garmin with LB Maps Baja software... http://www.lbmaps.com
The Baja page: http://www.lbmaps.com/GPSMaps/Navigator.htm
Here are the models that it works with: http://www.lbmaps.com/InfoPages/GPS.htm
[Edited on 11-28-2011 by David K]
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Roberto
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Lb maps are ok. They haven't been updated in a while. Depends on what you want to use them for. Main highways, yes, offroad use, ok but not great,
city use, not so much. There are other, better maps, but they are all more expensive.
One good one can be found at bicimapas.com.mx. Pciraceradios.com has one as well.
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skippermike
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GPS in Baja
I've used both small Nuvis and large StreetPilot, with bcimapas - worked fine.
I agree with Roberto that bcimapas is expensive - but good.
Besides off road use, we've used autorouting, like here in the states - it works fine as well. You can even have the voice in Spanish!
Good luck, Mike
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Tom-Tom
I hear from a reliable source that one of the new 5" screen Tom-Tom's has Mexico pre loaded and comes with free updates:
http://tinyurl.com/8xwfy3l
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Russ
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TomTom has a sale going on today. Looks good so I'm getting one
http://www.tomtom.com/en_us/promotions/black-friday/
[Edited on 11-28-2011 by Russ]
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john/gerda
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thank you
Thanks for all the info....it really helped.........john/gerda
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ncampion
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Actually the Garmin North America City Streets mapset has most Baja streets but no auto-routing except in big cities.
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rts551
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lbmaps are at least 5 years out of date. and although I send updates I can not get a response.
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David K
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Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
lbmaps are at least 5 years out of date. and although I send updates I can not get a response. |
Too bad... Larry (LB) used to post here on Nomad, too... Is BICIMapas the best set up for topo maps on our GPS now?
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David K
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GPS to Baja's Historic Missions and More
The GPS can be a tool to enhance your Baja vacation! The following waypoints were obtained from Jack Swords and my travels to the sites. These GPS
waypoints have been published in my http://vivabaja.com/bajamissions web pages.
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GPS WAYPOINTS for mission sites (map datum WGS84)
EL DESCANSO 32�12'19.62" 116�54'19.24"
SAN MIGUEL 32�05'39.10" 116�51'15.03"
GUADALUPE 32�05'30.50" 116�34'30.50"
SANTA CATALINA 31�39'38.10" 115�49'16.00"
SANTO TOMAS-1 31�34'11.00" 116�28'50.00"
SANTO TOMAS-2 31�34'24.30" 116�27'58.70"
SANTO TOMAS-3 31�33'30.00" 116�24'48.90"
SAN VICENTE 31�19'47.90" 116�15'33.00"
SAN PEDRO MARTIR 30�47'24.25" 115�28'20.85"
(Visita) SAN ISIDORO 30�45'55.17" 115�32'49.81"
SANTO DOMINGO 30�46'15.20" 115�56'14.00"
ROSARIO-1 30�04'01.00" 115�43'08.00"
ROSARIO-2 30�02'29.00" 115�44'20.80"
SAN FERNANDO VELICATA 29�58'16.52" 115�14'12.20"
(Visita) SAN JUAN DE DIOS 30�10'57.61" 115�10'04.50"
(Historic spring on El Camino Real) AGUA DULCE 29�52'58.70" 114�49'25.00"
SANTA MARIA 29�43'54.50" 114�32'50.16"
CALAMAJUE 29�25'16.30" 114�11'42.36"
(Historic water hole near El Camino Real) TINAJA DE YUBAY 29�10'41.37" 113�59'15.20"
SAN BORJA 28�44'40.37" 113�45'14.39"
(Visita) SANTA ANA 28�41'25.23" 113�49'14.31"
(Water hole near Golfo Camino Real) TINAJA DE SANTA MARIA 28�26'05.20" 113�20'01.40"
SANTA GERTRUDIS 28�03'04.02" 113�05'07.17"
(Visita) SAN PABLO 27�42'07.81" 113�08'42.08"
SAN IGNACIO 27�17'02.18" 112�53'56.12"
GUADALUPE DE HUASINAPI 26�55'09.50" 112�24'20.60"
SANTA ROSALIA DE MULEGE 26�05'37.00" 111�59'09.30"
(Visita) SAN JOSE DE MAGDALENA 27�03'40.33" 112�13'24.87"
(Pila/ ag site for San Jose de Magdalena, mis-identified as Mision Santa Maria Magdalena) 27�03'29.10" 112�10'12.34"
SAN JOSE DE COMONDU (1st site, 'Comondu Viejo') 26�16'27.40" 111�43'08.50"
SAN JOSE DE COMONDU (final site) 26�03'34.59" 111�49'20.41"
LA PURISIMA (1st site, 'Purisima Vieja') 26�18'34.48" 112�09'50.98"
LA PURISIMA (final site) 26�11'25.60" 112�04'22.60"
SAN BRUNO (1683-1685 colony site) 26�13'57.50" 111�23'53.90"
LORETO 26�00'37.00" 111�20'35.80"
(Visita) SAN JUAN BAUTISTA LONDO 26�13'30.83" 111�28'24.51"
SAN JAVIER 25�51'36.86" 111�32'36.99"
(Visita) LA PRESENTACION 25�43'45.00" 111�32'37.40"
SAN JUAN BAUTISTA DE LIGUI/ DE MALIBAT 25�44'22.20" 111�15'51.00"
LOS DOLORES APATE 25�03'19.04" 110�53'03.33"
LOS DOLORES CHILLA (La Pasion) 24�53'14.4" 111�01'49.81"
SAN LUIS GONZAGA 24�54'29.00" 111�17'27.25"
PILAR DE LA PAZ AIRAPI 24�09'36.00" 110�18'59.40"
(Visita) EL NOVILLO 23�55'48.60" 110�13'28.20"
(Visita) ANGEL DE LA GUARDA (EL ZALATO) 23�53'27.60" 110�10'14.80"
(a church from the 1760's) SAN BLAS 23�53'10.40" 110�09'16.21"
SANTA ROSA DE LAS PALMAS (Todos Santos-1) 23�27'37.30" 110�13'08.31"
PILAR DE LA PAZ (Todos Santos-2) 23�26'59.16" 110�13'31.62"
(Visita) SAN JACINTO 23�14'34.21" 110�04'37.20"
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Or you could use the sun and stars and know exactly where you are at every moment.
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The Telcel iPhone 4 Series
Has an excellent, very up-to-date GPS feature.
It identifies the various communities by name and shows the boundary lines.
It is extremely helpful and accurate with city and highway roads.
Also, it shows the dirt roads that snake through the back country.
I have been able to track hubby's journeys on a minute-by-minute basis and then called him or he called me to verify his position.
�Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.�
�Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.� (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
�Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
�Julius Caesar
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GPS WAYPOINTS for mission sites (map datum WGS84)
EL DESCANSO 32�12'19.62" 116�54'19.24"
SAN MIGUEL 32�05'39.10" 116�51'15.03"
GUADALUPE 32�05'30.50" 116�34'30.50"
SANTA CATALINA 31�39'38.10" 115�49'16.00"
SANTO TOMAS-1 31�34'11.00" 116�28'50.00"
SANTO TOMAS-2 31�34'24.30" 116�27'58.70"
SANTO TOMAS-3 31�33'30.00" 116�24'48.90"
SAN VICENTE 31�19'47.90" 116�15'33.00"
SAN PEDRO MARTIR 30�47'24.25" 115�28'20.85"
(Visita) SAN ISIDORO 30�45'55.17" 115�32'49.81"
SANTO DOMINGO 30�46'15.20" 115�56'14.00"
ROSARIO-1 30�04'01.00" 115�43'08.00"
ROSARIO-2 30�02'29.00" 115�44'20.80"
SAN FERNANDO VELICATA 29�58'16.52" 115�14'12.20"
(Visita) SAN JUAN DE DIOS 30�10'57.61" 115�10'04.50"
(Historic spring on El Camino Real) AGUA DULCE 29�52'58.70" 114�49'25.00"
SANTA MARIA 29�43'54.50" 114�32'50.16"
CALAMAJUE 29�25'16.30" 114�11'42.36"
(Historic water hole near El Camino Real) TINAJA DE YUBAY 29�10'41.37" 113�59'15.20"
SAN BORJA 28�44'40.37" 113�45'14.39"
(Visita) SANTA ANA 28�41'25.23" 113�49'14.31"
(Water hole near Golfo Camino Real) TINAJA DE SANTA MARIA 28�26'05.20" 113�20'01.40"
SANTA GERTRUDIS 28�03'04.02" 113�05'07.17"
(Visita) SAN PABLO 27�42'07.81" 113�08'42.08"
SAN IGNACIO 27�17'02.18" 112�53'56.12"
GUADALUPE DE HUASINAPI 26�55'09.50" 112�24'20.60"
SANTA ROSALIA DE MULEGE 26�05'37.00" 111�59'09.30"
(Visita) SAN JOSE DE MAGDALENA 27�03'40.33" 112�13'24.87"
(Pila/ ag site for San Jose de Magdalena, mis-identified as Mision Santa Maria Magdalena) 27�03'29.10" 112�10'12.34"
SAN JOSE DE COMONDU (1st site, 'Comondu Viejo') 26�16'27.40" 111�43'08.50"
SAN JOSE DE COMONDU (final site) 26�03'34.59" 111�49'20.41"
LA PURISIMA (1st site, 'Purisima Vieja') 26�18'34.48" 112�09'50.98"
LA PURISIMA (final site) 26�11'25.60" 112�04'22.60"
SAN BRUNO (1683-1685 colony site) 26�13'57.50" 111�23'53.90"
LORETO 26�00'37.00" 111�20'35.80"
(Visita) SAN JUAN BAUTISTA LONDO 26�13'30.83" 111�28'24.51"
SAN JAVIER 25�51'36.86" 111�32'36.99"
(Visita) LA PRESENTACION 25�43'45.00" 111�32'37.40"
SAN JUAN BAUTISTA DE LIGUI/ DE MALIBAT 25�44'22.20" 111�15'51.00"
LOS DOLORES APATE 25�03'19.04" 110�53'03.33"
LOS DOLORES CHILLA (La Pasion) 24�53'14.4" 111�01'49.81"
SAN LUIS GONZAGA 24�54'29.00" 111�17'27.25"
PILAR DE LA PAZ AIRAPI 24�09'36.00" 110�18'59.40"
(Visita) EL NOVILLO 23�55'48.60" 110�13'28.20"
(Visita) ANGEL DE LA GUARDA (EL ZALATO) 23�53'27.60" 110�10'14.80"
(a church from the 1760's) SAN BLAS 23�53'10.40" 110�09'16.21"
SANTA ROSA DE LAS PALMAS (Todos Santos-1) 23�27'37.30" 110�13'08.31"
PILAR DE LA PAZ (Todos Santos-2) 23�26'59.16" 110�13'31.62"
(Visita) SAN JACINTO 23�14'34.21" 110�04'37.20" |
useful
the fat lady is breeding
which means
The fat ladys are breeding
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KaceyJ
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John and Gerda
If you don't mind my 2 cents,
Save your money, forget the GPS, don't be a poseur. Buy a good map.
There are 5 roads in Baja,
Mex 1 , TJ to Cabo.
Mex 2, TJ to Mexicali.
Mex 3, Tecate to Ensenada to San Felipe
Mex 19, Cabo to La Paz bypass
and one other that escapes me at the moment but it has a number and goes from La Paz to Muertos . ---And that's all off the top of my 2 margarita
head this evening.
If you can figure out which way is north , you almost have to try to get lost. Baja is actually a small place. Lots of friendlys with good directions.
The only reason I can figure out to own a G P S is so you can tell everyone else on the planet how to get to spots in Baja they'd never otherwise get
to on their own.
Kc
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I am using the Tom-Tom in Baja with great results.
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great for those that stay on those 5 roads.
Quote: | Originally posted by KaceyJ
If you don't mind my 2 cents,
Save your money, forget the GPS, don't be a poseur. Buy a good map.
There are 5 roads in Baja,
Mex 1 , TJ to Cabo.
Mex 2, TJ to Mexicali.
Mex 3, Tecate to Ensenada to San Felipe
Mex 19, Cabo to La Paz bypass
and one other that escapes me at the moment but it has a number and goes from La Paz to Muertos . ---And that's all off the top of my 2 margarita
head this evening.
If you can figure out which way is north , you almost have to try to get lost. Baja is actually a small place. Lots of friendlys with good directions.
The only reason I can figure out to own a G P S is so you can tell everyone else on the planet how to get to spots in Baja they'd never otherwise get
to on their own.
Kc |
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Garmin Nuvi North America update gets me through most urban circumstances. 
[Edited on 12-2-2011 by windgrrl]
When the way comes to an end, then change. Having changed, you pass through.
~ I-Ching
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Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
great for those that stay on those 5 roads.
Quote: | Originally posted by KaceyJ
If you don't mind my 2 cents,
Save your money, forget the GPS, don't be a poseur. Buy a good map.
There are 5 roads in Baja,
Mex 1 , TJ to Cabo.
Mex 2, TJ to Mexicali.
Mex 3, Tecate to Ensenada to San Felipe
Mex 19, Cabo to La Paz bypass
and one other that escapes me at the moment but it has a number and goes from La Paz to Muertos . ---And that's all off the top of my 2 margarita
head this evening.
If you can figure out which way is north , you almost have to try to get lost. Baja is actually a small place. Lots of friendlys with good directions.
The only reason I can figure out to own a G P S is so you can tell everyone else on the planet how to get to spots in Baja they'd never otherwise get
to on their own.
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That'll work for 99 +% of travelers.
Maybe you could make a point for the other <1% who don't?
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john/gerda
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thanks to all again
all the advice was great,,,well most of it.
I got to say the part about "why one would want to have one" is a bit odd.
to explain and diverse a little,,long ago I saw someone holding and drinking from a smaller than gallon size bottle of water and asked about it and I
was told that they can now be purchased at stores, they said the price is about what a soda goes for. I laughed. It is not possible that any one
would buy that which can be obtained for free with verry little or no effort........I was wrong.....i was really wrong.
Long ago when these GPS things came out i laughed again,,really hard this time. who would buy these when all you have to do is know a few simple facts
maybe buy a Thomas Bros. map......I was not only wrong again,,,but it seems stores like BestBuy no longer even sell many car radio's the whole
department is now morphed into a GPS showroom........
Awhile back it took me three weeks to find a new Thomas Bros. map ...Every store I went to said "why would we carry those? no one askes for them any
more "
Am I a big fan of these new GPS navIgators????? No I am not. Are they huge distractions and therfore very unsafe???? Absolutely
Am i gonna buy one right after payday??? You bet-ya I am. Becides that Gerta said I had to, she wants one really bad, and keeping her happy is a
good thing......
Have fun this weekend everyone....
by-the-way
Gerda and I are scheduled to take our madien voyage , our first trip and beach launch in Baja this weekend.....Weather is supposed to lay down nice
for Saturday but the swell is still supposed to be hanging around. maybe a few waves to get through.......I am sure i will be asking myself why i
thought that a 7.5 hp motor was gonna be all we need ....lol
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