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Mengano
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7 pangas stolen in La Ribera last weekend
Seven pangas with outboard motors were stolen in La Ribera last weekend. So far this year, there have been 17 pangas stolen there and 32 in the last
two years.
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They are probably moving them up to Popotla to restock the smuggling boats that have been lost at sea or seized by US Customs.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Oddjob
They are probably moving them up to Popotla to restock the smuggling boats that have been lost at sea or seized by US Customs.
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???? Who in their right mind would move stolen pangas on the highway through five roadblocks?
I can't imagine they would move them by sea around the tip of the Baja and up the west coast.
Those pangas are probably getting new paint jobs and headed east to the mainland.
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Time share/ R.E. salesmen trying to get out of town perhaps?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Loretana
???? Who in their right mind would move stolen pangas on the highway through five roadblocks?
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The checkpoints are for drugs and weapons, and then only the small stuff. Large shipments pay the toll. The army doesn't care about pangas.
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How do the "chips" that were placed on the pangas not too long ago work?
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These burrohats are no interested in the pangas, they have been dragging the
pangas off the beach at night, taking the motors and putting the boats adrift
or sinking them, right after the latest episode, 2 shrimper rapists were anchored
and one left rapidly to points unknown. Panga outboards are not really easy
to pull off a boat without a hoist Coincedental? I don't think so.
Pretty hard on the boy's here that work a long time to buy and equip their only
means of livelyhood
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Coincidentally, Mike; Stan Houck said to say hi and that he won't be coming to LB this Christmas because of illness.
| Quote: | Originally posted by mike odell
These burrohats are no interested in the pangas, they have been dragging the
pangas off the beach at night, taking the motors and putting the boats adrift
or sinking them, right after the latest episode, 2 shrimper rapists were anchored
and one left rapidly to points unknown. Panga outboards are not really easy
to pull off a boat without a hoist Coincedental? I don't think so.
Pretty hard on the boy's here that work a long time to buy and equip their only
means of livelyhood |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mike odell
These burrohats are no interested in the pangas, they have been dragging the
pangas off the beach at night, taking the motors and putting the boats adrift
or sinking them, right after the latest episode, 2 shrimper rapists were anchored
and one left rapidly to points unknown. Panga outboards are not really easy
to pull off a boat without a hoist Coincedental? I don't think so.
Pretty hard on the boy's here that work a long time to buy and equip their only
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The coincidence of the arrival of those purse seine netters or whatever they are is just too coincidental relative to the missing gear. Pretty sad.
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How does a shrimper leave "rapidly"????
I agree that it is probably them. But it points to the lack of any means of enforcement on the water; be it criminal activity or conservation
enforcement.
Where DOES all our license money go......................??????????
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
How does a shrimper leave "rapidly"????
I agree that it is probably them. But it points to the lack of any means of enforcement on the water; be it criminal activity or conservation
enforcement.
Where DOES all our license money go......................?????????? |
Your money finds it's way into the pockets of mexican crooks. There is no enforcement, and not a care for conservation... and we musen't try and
change that out of respect for the mexican people who have alowed this to continue ... they had a revolt and just handed the power to more corrupt
politicians.
It's Tradition 
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Are there similar losses close by or....
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Why ?
why do they keep letting the shrimpers keep anchoring / overnighting anywhere in Las Palmas bay? wouldnt you think the locals would just board and
take care of matters themselves? it's been going on way too long
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The navy has a fleet small planes that fly over the SOC regularly at night and early each morning and identify all ships and activities in the region,
there are also navy ships that patrol and more that can be sent form nearby stations. There are also naval spotters on shore with night vision at
various points and of course satellite radar and other systems to identify all traffic.
The question is what is happening in the case of these well organized thefts/destruction of resources and who has the resources to complete such an
action without detection?
When looking at criminal behavior one question asked by investigators is who has the means and motive? Who benefits from harming local fisheries?
What are possible outcomes as a result of the theft/destruction of fishing pangas and motors.
Reduce food and economic independence of communities.
Require locals to purchase corporate fish and food products.
Destroy infrastructure of independent business.
Cause division and mistrust among communities.
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Arent those actually black helicopters the Mexican Navy flies each night?
Your tin foil hat must have blocked the most obvious motive, Gnukid..............making money on the black market from stolen outboards.
Just giving you a hard time in jest, amigo. But I think the reason is more like DESPERATE SHRIMPERS IN NEED OF INCOME IN THE FACE OF DECLINING STOCKS
(their own doing) AND INCREASED COMPETITION FROM FARMING.
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I'm right here at the heart of action and I think you are on to something Hook. 50% of Mexico's shrimp sales is from farms like those around Guymas.
Makes perfect sense that when shrimpers can't find shrimp, they seine for profitable bycatch and steal anything they kind find and haul off in the
dark. If you can figure it out, one would think the Government would have clear thinkers like you and act upon what makes sense.
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Over here, it can be difficult to find the wild stuff, especially after the first few months of the season. Granted, there are lots of farms over
here.
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How much longer are these fisherman going to be victims? They make it too easy for the crooks. It's not the first theft of an outboard in Bahia las
Palmas. Theft after theft and they still don't learn. Maybe they should spend some change and put a GPS Pocket Finder or Live View GPS attached to the
motor.
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Cabo Las Vegas Ron; You are not in Baja, your opinions don't have merit.
Slimshady; Do you even know where La Ribera or Punta Arena is?
Bahia Las Palmas is not where the theft in this thread happened.
Furthermore If the pangeros who lost their lively hood had some EXTRA
CHANGE, They would most likely put more food on the family table since they
can't buy pocket gps or live view gps here In our Village or even La Paz
for that matter, wanna send some down?
Gnukid: What Hook said. plus I have a large roll of foil for hats I will give
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Udo: Thanks for the heads up on big Stan, I will email him.
Mengano; The count was 6 not 7
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Mike
I couldn't have said it any better.
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