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[*] posted on 12-21-2011 at 12:17 PM
Gringo Gazette Article


I got this in an email. Does anybody have a link or can reprint the article here?

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Wednesday, December 21, 2011
Gordo Banks Under Attack By Outsiders
• Greedy long Range boat from San Diego


A long range sport boat out of San Diego anchored off both the inner Gordo Banks and outer Gordo Banks for three days on November 30th and December 1st and 2nd. With a bait tank holding over 3000 bait fish and 25 anglers on board, they were able to catch a boat load of fish. A full report can be viewed on the Intrepid's web site, although the captain never mentions the Gordo Banks in his report, but does say they caught over 50 yellow fin tuna.
Local fishermen feel their turf was poached and over fished by the outsiders, and they were offended by and impacted by the over-harvest of tuna and other species that the local panga operators depend on for their living.
For the full story and a picture of the offending boat with 25 anglers fishing off it, pick up the latest Gringo Gazette due out last Monday, or log into your Gringo Gazette account online and read it on the digital version.
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[*] posted on 12-21-2011 at 12:20 PM


I'm on the side of the 25 happy anglers who paid for their fishing licenses and had a great time!



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[*] posted on 12-21-2011 at 12:21 PM


Zackly.

Just wanted to see their version of the facts.
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[*] posted on 12-21-2011 at 12:41 PM


Oh crap...!

I was able to log in.

What a hack job by this guy. Totally misleading article.

http://content.yudu.com/Library/A1v2dh/ggv17e8/resources/ind...
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[*] posted on 12-21-2011 at 02:36 PM


"What a hack job by this guy. Totally misleading article."

Exactly what I was thinking, rdrrm8e!

Yellowfin tuna are a pelagic species that are constantly on the move......

just exactly how do you deprive the local pangeros of schooling, migrating tuna???

Dumb article. "Robin Banks" not funny.




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[*] posted on 12-21-2011 at 04:41 PM


Anyone notice that when reading the GG. in David's article, it states that AirTran, division of Southwest will be operating a daily flight starting in May, from John Wayne (Orange County) to Cabo!

Inasmuch as Southwest and AirTran have always been discounters, it would seem to me that this will be a real boon to Cabo tourism.
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[*] posted on 12-21-2011 at 04:50 PM


"Poaching" tuna? What constituted poaching?

Pretty sure that the Intrepid anglers would be allowed 25anglers x 5tuna per day x 3 days max for a total legal haul of 375 tuna.




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[*] posted on 12-21-2011 at 06:02 PM
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Ironically, the GG is best used as fish wrapper.



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[*] posted on 12-21-2011 at 07:20 PM


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Originally posted by Hook
"Poaching" tuna? What constituted poaching?



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[*] posted on 12-22-2011 at 08:48 AM


Couple other things I found out.

The Intrepid baited up those pangeros to help 'em out.

There wasn't 25 anglers

Every person on the boat had a Mexican Fishing Permit (Bought and paid for)

The writer was not on the water.

Purely slanderous article.
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[*] posted on 12-22-2011 at 09:26 AM
the boats to come


hola, had I had been at my folk's house (punta gordo),I would have upset, I know the long range boat's are welomed/toleraterd on the pacific side such cedros and the uncle sam bank, and that the boat fishing on the bank's is not welcomed or wanted,that is considerd prety much by all to be inside baja domain,,this the first time that has happend that I know of and I hope the last,,they a long range vessel /great food/captain & deckhands are top notch and 'I:cool:m very surprised to hear that story,, I guess the fishing in the pacific must be SLOW....tick...tock..leaving for work.....out.. keith & lil tasha
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[*] posted on 12-22-2011 at 10:27 AM


Fishing boats go where the fish are- or what's the point?



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[*] posted on 12-22-2011 at 10:51 AM


would not be surprised in locals viewed long range gringo sport fishing boats negatively.

in most parts of world, locals often see foreign fishermen as infringing on their turf and taking "their fish."

the fees paid by gringos probably are not evident at local level. do those license fees get spent locally? and if so, is the spending made public knowledge?

many long range boats don't stop in local ports to gas up and take supplies and eat at the local restaurants, solocals probably do not see economic benefit of local spending by visitors.

for locals, perhaps they see no economic benefit and see only taking of their fish.

imagine the reverse scenario of mexican sport boats fishing off of la jolla or carlsbad or dana point,... gringos would go ape poop crazy at such a sight!
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[*] posted on 12-22-2011 at 11:45 AM


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imagine the reverse scenario of mexican sport boats fishing off of la jolla or carlsbad or dana point,... gringos would go ape poop crazy at such a sight!


I doubt they would. They don't even give a second thought that Mexicans use the area to bypass Ellis Island so why would they care if they're catching a few crummy fish?
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[*] posted on 12-22-2011 at 03:42 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by Hook
"Poaching" tuna? What constituted poaching?

Pretty sure that the Intrepid anglers would be allowed 25anglers x 5tuna per day x 3 days max for a total legal haul of 375 tuna.

Exactly! and that isn't even one trawl for the purse seiners that blanket the area.




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[*] posted on 12-22-2011 at 03:48 PM


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Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
Ironically, the GG is best used as fish wrapper.

My sentiments exactly! I stopped reading the GG years ago because they try desperately to create stories rather than simply report them. Every issue seems to try to stir controversy over something just to increase circulation.

I admit I am part of the problem. If I stopped using them to wrap fish and line bird cages they might realize how few people actually read that rag :lol:




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[*] posted on 12-22-2011 at 05:14 PM


Maybe some of you need to get over it.

Fact is that Carrie Duncan started this rag as an advertiser. Free copies are in abundance all over the Los Cabos area in newsracks.

I'm not sure if any of the real stories they printed were by accident, but I somehow doubt it since Carrie has been deported from Mexico at least once.

That brings me to the Gringo Gazette Northern Edition, that was headed by Nancy Conroy.

As we all know, that paper is history, as is Nancy, as far as being in Baja.

Since I have visited Cabo for many years predating the original edition of the Gringo Gazette, I have a feel for what they endeavored to do when they started.

Even though Carrie did get deported once for running articles that made certain local officials uncomfortable, all along, the tone of this publication was on the humorous side.

When Carrie partnered with Nancy to do a Northern edition, I'm not so sure that they had a complete understanding of what it was to be the Gringo Gazette.

Not to diss Nancy, but her Northern edition became way less humorless, and way more crusading against the Mexican culture than Carrie ever envisioned.

Nancy is gone from Baja. The GG Northern edition does not exist. But Carrie continues.

Knowing Carrie, I can only share that she has always been crotchety. Difficult to deal with, but, she continues.

So, Mengano, or whomever, if you feel like tearing my analysis apart, no problema.
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