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BajaNomad
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Safety of trip to Bahia de los Angeles? (from the inbox)
From my email inbox... what's your perspective for this mom?:
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Subj: Safety of trip to Villa Bahia in Baha California?
Date: Thursday, January 26, 2012 7:42 PM
From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: bajanomad
Hi,
My son's college sports team is planning to charter a bus and drive from the L.A. area down to the hotel Villa Bahia in Baja California during their
spring vacation. http://www.villabahia.com/
I'm trying to ascertain whether the drive there and back itself is safe and then, of course, whether staying at that particular hotel would be safe.
I'm going to get into your website and see if I register and then "chat", but I'm afraid that I'm somewhat of an internet marooon when it comes to
using forums like yours.
If you don't see my question, could you possibly post the question for me (without using my real name!  ) or answer me directly?
Thanks very much,
[Edited on 1-27-2012 by BajaNomad]
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woody with a view
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i'll be driving right past that turn off today. in fact, i'm leaving right now.
prayforsurf!
edit: crossing at 4:15am, birria in san vicente at the pemex, shrimp tacos at la pasadita in san quintin, hoping for lengua tacos at the store in
catavina, first ballena when i hit the dirt! return tuesday, Neptune willing!
how will i ever survive?
[Edited on 1-27-2012 by woody with a view]
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woody with a view
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but honestly, the kids are adults aren't they? i'm sure they'll be fine.
sun, sand, tequila, maybe some fishing..... sounds like a blast!
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SFandH
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My concern would be with the condition of the bus and whether or not the driver has ever driven in baja, past El Rosario. The road is where the danger
lies.
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DENNIS
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What type of sports team? The safety question might well be asked by the maidens of Mexico. 
Jes kiddin'. They won't have safety problems if they behave themselves.
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Santiago
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"Safety" has a lot of different meanings. I'm assuming that the trip from SoCal to BOLA will be done in one day. If you're worried about banditos you
can forget that other than getting out of LA without incident. Having a driver that will operate the bus safely on Baja roads is the most important.
However, I'm more worried about what the team is expecting. These are young, mostly 'merican males going to Mexico on Spring break, right? If they
are expecting a Girls Gone Wild scene in Bahia de los Angeles they are going to be sorely disappointed. The only wild women I've ever experienced in
BOLA are on days when the hot flashes are particularly strong, if you get my drift. There are no fancy resorts full of spring breakers here, thank
god.
If they are going there to learn something, hire a few boats for fishing and sight seeing, hiking the desert, then they will do just fine.
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skippermike
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Villa Bahia
The answers to a safe drive down are all above.
Re Villa Bahia, it is a favorite place of ours - but then we have not been of college age for many years.
It is not a "jumping" spot, unless they make it so.
The young guys managing it recently are great.
Fishing, boating, beer drinking - all good there.
Hot girls flocking around - not unless they are on the team!
Hope they have fun!!
[Edited on 1-27-2012 by skippermike]
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sd
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I think the kids would have a great time, go and enjoy!
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David K
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No (Mexico) safety concerns if it was my kids... what a great experience. The Villa Bahia is not in town, but a couple miles north... Hope they enjoy
the sea, and all the activities it brings!
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larryC
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Mom,
As everyone else has already said, the drive down and back is the toughest part, and if they are chartering a bus , then I suspect they will be fine.
Roger and the staff at Villa Bahia will go out of their way to make sure they have a good time. Tell them to take long showers (Roger loves that) and
if they don't already, start getting used to having dogs around.
They'll be fine.
Larry
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rts551
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College sports team in Bahia de Los Angeles for Spring Break? On the outside of town no less. Hope someone has been there before and they know what
they are doing.
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CortezBlue
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Just make sure they have condoms in their pockets, then I would say they will be safe!
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Alan
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CortezBlue
Just make sure they have condoms in their pockets, then I would say they will be safe! |
Condoms needed in BoLA? I would say "slim chance" unless they decide to have a water
balloon fight.
In Memory of E-57
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Lobsterman
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I would not allow my kids to go anywhere in mexico at this time. With the way
1. the authorities are shaking down gringos,
2. poor heathcare,
3. overcharging emergency care
4. the extreme penalty compared to the USA if someone has drugs or other offenses whether true or false. Either way you will have very little control
and will need to pay a lot more there to get your kid back home.
5. a legal system where you are guilty until you can prove you are innocent at a large cost.
6. if jailed you will be thrown in a pen of wolves in very deplorable 3rd world prison system. Ever see the tv show "Locked Up Abroad", that's
mexico's prison system. You will have to bribe many layers of people to get some money to your kid to pay of normal things in prison you need to
survive like food, clothing, blankets and protection from the wolves. I know this from experience.
7. very narrow and dangerous roads from El Rosario to LA Bay especially at night and if the driver is inexperienced. Many places along the route the
road is not wide enough for two large trucks, motorhomes or busses to pass each going in opposite directions other without one having to drive on the
shoulder. Some shoulders are only iches wide before a deep ditch or mountain dropoff. I've been driving to LA Bay since the 80's towing an 8' boat in
trailer and many times wondered how I misses that vehicle.
My motto with my kids is safety first. Why subject them to that environment. This isn't the Mexico from the 60-80s that you might have heard about.
it's a new and every changing dangerous environment there now.
Therefore to answer your question, I would not subject my innocent, gullible kids to that hostile environment without going along myself and
monitoring the situation. It's just not worth it to me to worry the whole time they are down there. it only takes one event to change your kid's life
forever. If such an event happened in the USA at least you will have a better control of the situation with a legal system that you are innocent
until you are proven guilty.
The comment that getting out of LA is more dangerous that mexico is just not true.
This is just my opinion from experience of going to mexico to fish and camp out often until a few years ago.
[Edited on 1-27-2012 by Lobsterman]
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bajabass
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 What, no local nightspots in BOLA???? Anthony's South????
Keep your eyes on the road, and your hands upon the wheel!
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Ateo
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I completely, politely and respectfully disagree with Lobstermans post.
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I would specifically inquire about the bus line and their experience driving in Mexico. And depending on where this college team is from, maybe most
have never been to Mexico. Who is supervising? Have they been to Baja CA before? What do they expect to do once in Bahia de los Angeles? Is the
purpose to just "hang out" and drink a lot? Do they have activities planned? BOLA is not a place to lounge around by the pool and order pina coladas
- you really need an agenda, and a Plan B in case the wind blows for 3 days.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabass
What, no local nightspots in BOLA???? Anthony's South???? |
Maybe just a quick stop on the way down at Anthony's North to calm the boys down for the rest of the trip. 
I guess we're still assuming these are young men.
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Make sure they have sunscreen and a big hat, too. 
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skippermike
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Villa Bahia
After my posting above, I just received the Jan Newsletter from Villa Bahia.
If you haven't seen it - https://sites.google.com/site/villabahianewsletter1/
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