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Mengano
 
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Canada urging caution to Mexico-bound Canadians 
 
 
Dangers await in Mexico, Canada's Foreign Affairs department is warning travelers. 
 
Government websites are awash with warnings for those looking to head south on vacation, saying it’s entirely possible they’ll find violence instead. 
 
It’s advised Canadians headed south “exercise a high degree of caution due to a deteriorating security situation in many parts of the country.” 
 
The government’s travel advice and advisories website says “high levels of criminal activity, as well as occasional demonstrations and protests,
remain a concern throughout the country.” 
 
Those who insist on going to Mexico are recommended to travel by air rather than crossing the border on the ground, as that area is a cause for
particular concern. 
 
“Shootouts, attacks, and illegal roadblocks may occur at any time,” says the website. 
 
“Criminals especially target SUVs and full-size pickup trucks for theft and carjacking along highways in the states of Nuevo León, Tamaulipas,
Baja California, Chihuahua, Coahuila, Durango, Sonora, and Sinaloa.” 
 
The effect of violence on the psyche of Canadians has begun showing and more have grown hesitant to venture there, says one local travel agent. 
 
“There’s lots of people that come in here and say no — I’d rather not go to Mexico,” said Trevor Holmen, who works with Aero Travel. 
 
http://www.calgarysun.com/2012/01/27/feds-urging-caution-to-...
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LaTijereta
 
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I got in a "shot-out" last night with a Canadian at Vic's Bar here in Loreto...I think we were working with Cuervo
Traditional 
 
 
 
 
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Just to err on the SAFE side-CLOSE the Border 
 
 
Between the U.S. and Canada. 
 
Save those Canuckials from the consequences of poor judgment. 
 
It's our Brotherly duty to save those who speak [Almost] the same language as we do. 
 
Let the Frog-Canucks through, though.  They deserve whatever they get.
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Ken Cooke
 
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Another fear-based Mengano thread 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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David K
 
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Heck, if they make it across the wild west of America to the Mexican border... then there is nothing that should scare them! You ever been in L.A. in
the night??? 
 
 
 
 
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Barry A.
 
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 | Quote: |  Originally posted by Ken Cooke 
 
Another fear-based post by Mengano. 
 
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"fear based"???  Hmmmmmmmmm, don't think so, Ken. 
 
When I was a cop, I was not afraid, but I certainly wanted to know what I was gettin into before I sallied forth, if possible.  It is called
"fore-warned, is fore-armed", or something like that.   
 
I view all of Mengano's posts this way.        and you can take them, or
leave them------your choice. 
 
Barry 
 
[Edited on 1-29-2012 by Barry A.]
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paranewbi
 
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 | Quote: |  Originally posted by Barry A. 
 | Quote: |  Originally posted by Ken Cooke 
 
Another fear-based post by Mengano. 
 
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"fear based"???  Hmmmmmmmmm, don't think so, Ken. 
 
When I was a cop, I was not afraid, but I certainly wanted to know what I was gettin into before I sallied forth, if possible.  It is called
"fore-warned, is fore-armed", or something like that.   
 
I view all of Mengano's posts this way.        and you can take them, or
leave them------your choice. 
 
Barry 
 
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LET SEE.... 
DROVE to Nicaragua during the height of the Reagon Wars (oh those terrible Sandinistas!), surfed my brains our with best buddy, met people who's
hospitality even in their poverty were the best I ever met, have memories that I fall asleep to every night. 
DROVE to El Salvador during the height of the Reagon Wars ...conclusion, same as above. 
DROVE to Guatemala pre armistice (probably over all those mass graves that the 'good guys' buried those nasty, scary, people in) and fell in love with
the people (still visit friends we made there). 
Put over 200,000 miles in Central America and Mexico since the '70's with women, babies , children riding shotgun. Camped on remote beaches in those
locations (up to and soon after this day).  
I think I'll leave them, Barry A 
 
One thing I don't do...is read the paper in this country. Probably wouldn't leave my house.
 
  
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paranewbi
 
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PS... 
 
I'm the white guy with the frizzy hair...conseguence of no bathing for three months...surfing keeps you clean. 
The skinny guy is my buddy...we'd average a loss of 30 pounds each over that time because the 'good' troops the US backed were destroying all the
crops and deficating in the wells. Yeah us.
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Blah blah f-ing blah the Canadian Harper gov't is a full of chite as the Yank gov't with its warnings! 
 
Lets see enough Canadians are murdered while traveling to the US, do you see travel adviseries not to go? Of course not! 
 
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and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.There is another theory which states that this has already happened\" 
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Mengano
 
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 | Quote: |  Originally posted by astrobaja 
Blah blah f-ing blah the Canadian Harper gov't is a full of chite as the Yank gov't with its warnings! 
 
Lets see enough Canadians are murdered while traveling to the US, do you see travel adviseries not to go? Of course not! 
 
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So says the man who operates a rental retreat business in Baja. Shouldn't people in your business be required to put a disclaimer after your comments?
It may be important for people reading here to understand that the opinion you express on safety in Baja has a personal financial motivation behind
it. 
 
Just saying.
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The silver lining in the dark cloud is that there are more choice spots for us RVers. But still enough of us to have the company of others and the
safety in numbers. BTW, last fall the majority of non-Mexican license plates I saw at the RV spots were Canadian. 
 
Can't wait to get south again!
 
 
 
 
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Ken Cooke
 
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 | Quote: |  Originally posted by Mengano 
So says the man who operates a rental retreat business in Baja. Shouldn't people in your business be required to put a disclaimer after your comments?
It may be important for people reading here to understand that the opinion you express on safety in Baja has a personal financial motivation behind
it. 
 
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The Sierra San Pedro Martir region has some great 4 wheeling and areas for adventure.  I have lots of great memories there.  Here are a few pictures
to share. 
 
The parking lot behind El Palomar after dinner.  Anyone know the status of the Rolls Royce parked behind there?  Anyway, Dan and Andrew (RIP) langhing
it up. 
  
 
Dan observing weathered camp furniture. 
  
 
SEMARNAP Ranger Emigdio Chacon standing next to my tired junk. 
  
 
Loading my immobilized Ford Ranger on Desert Bull's borrowed trailer. 
  
 
The Observatory road near AstroBaja's cabins (before it was paved) 
 
 
 
 
 
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I personally feel that once you get past Ensenada things are pretty safe on the Baja. I would think twice about flying or RV'ing down the mainland. My
experience with US news sources is that they don't report much world events unless it directly affects the US. For those of you who don't know, within
the last month or so a Canadian retiree was killed in Malaque, a Canadian girl and her boyfriend were killed near Hautulco, and just last week a
Canadian girl was almost beat to death in an elevator of a resort hotel in Mazatlan. So Mexico has been on the news quite a bit up here in Canada.
Many Canadians have canceled Mexico and picked alternate locations for their winter holidays this year.  
 
I'm not sure if I spelt the Mexican cities correctly so go easy on me, I don't have time to look them up.
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 | Quote: |  Originally posted by jack 
I personally feel that once you get past Ensenada things are pretty safe on the Baja....I'm not sure if I spelt the Mexican cities correctly so go
easy on me, I don't have time to look them up.   |  
  
 
Jack, 
Too much motorcycling and camping along Bahia Concepcion seems to have caused some brain-rot    
 
You were doing fine until it came to "spelting"....
 
 
 
 
Don't believe everything you think.... 
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The warnings are having an effect, judging from the lack of gringos on our trip south 2 weeks ago.   
 
Ken
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Assuming the WORST ................ 
 
 
Or, Best, depending on the View: 
 
IF A few-thousand Canuckials were lost in Mexico (highly Improbable), WHAT would be the Downside ? 
 
Seriously. 
 
I've wracked my Brain giving the question weighty thought and haven't been able to answer that. 
 
HELP ! 
 
It WOULD reduce the stress on the Canuckian Socialist-System. 
 
Well, maybe not, since those traveling are probably making money. 
 
Of course, if they make that money dealing Drugs, like most mowed down Down South, their loss would be a gain, I guess. 
 
Wouldn't it ? 
 
Another Riddle within an Enigma wrapped in a Conundrum.
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posts by fulano are so predictable! 
 
 
 | Quote: |  Originally posted by Mengano 
 | Quote: |  Originally posted by astrobaja 
Blah blah f-ing blah the Canadian Harper gov't is a full of chite as the Yank gov't with its warnings! 
 
Lets see enough Canadians are murdered while traveling to the US, do you see travel adviseries not to go? Of course not! 
 
Yet another pointless Fulano post   |  
  
 
So says the man who operates a rental retreat business in Baja. Shouldn't people in your business be required to put a disclaimer after your comments?
It may be important for people reading here to understand that the opinion you express on safety in Baja has a personal financial motivation behind
it. 
 
Just saying.   |  
  
 
so says "fulano." 
 
nuff said! 
 
shouldn't posts by fulano come with a disclaimer?  perhaps a discalimer like "warning!  this post by manic depressive who hates mexico!" 
 
[Edited on 1-30-2012 by mtgoat666]
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 | Quote: |  Originally posted by David K 
You ever been in L.A. in the night???    |  
  
 
As a matter of fact, yes! 
  
  
 
Eddie Santiago kept the women screaming throughout his set! 
  
 
 Chicas BONITAS!  
  
 
DOWNTOWN L.A. ROCKS!  DavidK is clueless  
 
 
 
 
 
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Posts by goat are so predictable 
 
 
 | Quote: |  Originally posted by mtgoat666 
 | Quote: |  Originally posted by Mengano 
 | Quote: |  Originally posted by astrobaja 
Blah blah f-ing blah the Canadian Harper gov't is a full of chite as the Yank gov't with its warnings! 
 
Lets see enough Canadians are murdered while traveling to the US, do you see travel adviseries not to go? Of course not! 
 
Yet another pointless Fulano post   |  
  
 
So says the man who operates a rental retreat business in Baja. Shouldn't people in your business be required to put a disclaimer after your comments?
It may be important for people reading here to understand that the opinion you express on safety in Baja has a personal financial motivation behind
it. 
 
Just saying.   |  
  
 
so says "fulano." 
 
nuff said! 
 
shouldn't posts by fulano come with a disclaimer?  perhaps a discalimer like "warning!  this post by manic depressive who hates mexico!" 
 
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NO!  
 
Boy , you are so wrong. 
 
Not Enough Said! 
 
I don't know "goat" . For someone who is  purportedly so educated as your suppos-ed  self , maybe you should get out a little more often and
experience the real world. 
 
People have a right to know 
 
People have a right to info.  Whether it's a State Department notification or someone on a pertinant message board posting beware of all the finger
crooking that goes on, ad naseum , from would be B&B operators only to find out later , in a state of nolo contendre, that they got their wife and
kids  into a heap of steaming mierda  they would  never be able to dream of. 
 
You got to know what you're doing down here and what's going on at all times. If you are not an aware person, it won't work for you. 
 
You can  verbally paint the picture any way you like but Baja isn't all fun and games  
 
Just my 2cents  
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I don't know about any of this stuff, but Ken Cooke seems to always have a lineup of nice looking ladies in his posts.  
 
 
 
 
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