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baja1943
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Bad news for SF
http://tinyurl.com/7mpqend
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Diver
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Last week we had our septic tank pumped out.
When I jokingly asked my wife how she liked the smell, she said it reminded her of Baja !
I'm rather impressed that someone in Mexico actually tests the water.
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Udo
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Those beaches should have closed long ago. The water quality has JUST NOW been deemed contaminated.
Has anyone been to the water area at low tide?
The stench is pretty bad, and has been bad since the seventies!
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bacquito
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Udo
Those beaches should have closed long ago. The water quality has JUST NOW been deemed contaminated.
Has anyone been to the water area at low tide?
The stench is pretty bad, and has been bad since the seventies! |
ugh
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Oddjob
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Going into the water at San Felipe is like jumping into a sewage settlement pond.
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tripledigitken
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Love the fish tacos though.
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Oddjob
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As long as the fish comes from far away.
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mcfez
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This happens all the time to the southern California beaches as well. Northern beaches too.....Santa Cruz area for sure. I remember a newspaper
accounting of when Huntington Beach had syringes and needles washing up on the shoreline.
So what's the point of this topic? The article DID NOT state the number of MPN levels of enterococci. was it 201? 204? What number?
"....The criteria for considering a beach risky based on the amount of enterococci MPN/100 ml water beach these are determined as follows: 0 to 200
suitable for recreational use; Over 200 Not for recreational use".
Yes...post some warning signs on the beach....
This issue as the issues in California....is temporary and will be resolved. Visit San Felipe. It's a great town.
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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Hook
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So, how will they stop this? Are the homes in SF proper on a municipal sewer system or are most homes on septic or a simple leech line near the beach?
(guacala!)
Naw, probably just wait for the next extreme tides to wash it out, test it, and then declare the situation safe.
I often wonder about all the homes in the campos south of SF and how they contain effluents. Many are right on the sand. Sand is not a good barrier to
the ocean, I wouldnt think. Traps solids but not microorganisms. If they are using the ubiquitous cement vaults or cinder block vaults, I imagine the
salt water under them has done a real number on the Mexican mortar in them. It doesnt stand up long to continued exposure to hard fresh water, much
less salt water.
[Edited on 3-1-2012 by Hook]
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Hook
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Not the same as SoCal
| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
This happens all the time to the southern California beaches as well. Northern beaches too.....Santa Cruz area for sure. I remember a newspaper
accounting of when Huntington Beach had syringes and needles washing up on the shoreline.
So what's the point of this topic? The article DID NOT state the number of MPN levels of enterococci. was it 201? 204? What number?
"....The criteria for considering a beach risky based on the amount of enterococci MPN/100 ml water beach these are determined as follows: 0 to 200
suitable for recreational use; Over 200 Not for recreational use".
Yes...post some warning signs on the beach....
This issue as the issues in California....is temporary and will be resolved. Visit San Felipe. It's a great town. |
What's the point of the topic? Seemed clear to me. It aint safe to go in the water in parts of SF right now.
Well, having lived in SoCal for over 45 years, I think the situation is quite different. Effluents in SoCal are either caused by 1-heavy rains that
clean out the arroyos after a long dry period, or 2-the occasional spill from a sewage treatment plant. That last one can occur ANYWHERE.
No, this sounds more like a lack of any real infrastructure for dealing with this or an infrastructure that has been compromised. It occured at two
places that are separated by miles.
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elgatoloco
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muy malo 
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Diver
Last week we had our septic tank pumped out.
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...and where does the truck driver dump his tank?
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CortezBlue
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Translated
San Felipe beaches closed by pollution
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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:45
Mexicali, BC-Beaches in the north and south of San Felipe, were closed by the Ministry of Health of Baja California, because according to surveys of
water quality, pose a risk to bathers by high levels of enterococci.
Zamarrón Ricardo Guevara, head of the COPEPRIS in Baja California, said it is Bonita Beach and the beach at the Marina Resort and the monitor were
detected exceeding the standard values and jeopardize the health of bathing in entering these waters.
Zamarrón Guevara, recommended that people refrain from visiting these beaches and threatening their health.
The measure will be withdrawn until you have results that do not pose a health risk it is important to mention that you are working in coordination
with the committee clean beach of San Felipe to issue these recommendations to the public and service providers in the area.
The criteria for considering a beach risky based on the amount of enterococci MPN/100 ml water beach these are determined as follows: 0 to 200
suitable for recreational use; Over 200 Not for recreational use.
Enterococci are used as indicator, as are the cause of gastrointestinal illness occur.
Another criterion to consider a risky beach is the knowledge of a point source of pollution on the beach, or an incident that impacts water quality to
not be confirmed by results of a sample.
The mixture of wastewater effluents untreated can pose a risk to the bather, since an infectious dose of microorganisms can be transmitted not only by
swallowing water but to get it in contact with skin, ears, eyes, nasal cavity or upper respiratory tract causing minor illnesses such as skin
irritation, ear infections, eye and respiratory irritation, upset stomach and diarrhea due to gastrointestinal infections.
The purpose of providing information to the public about the risks they are exposed is to prevent damages in their health.
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every time it rains in San Diego, the beaches are posted due to the runoff in the storm gutter system.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
This issue as the issues in California....is temporary and will be resolved. |
in CA problems only occur after rains. in san felipe, appears to be persistent problem during rain or dry periods.
mcfez: why do you think it is "temporary?" who is resolving it? what actions are they taking to resolve? i am skeptical!
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mcfez
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Nearly 4000 beach closings and swimming advisories were issued by state and local governments
Ah.....it is so. Waters in southern Ca is polluted at times....just like in Baja.
Not the same as SoCal? :
Poche Beach in San Clemente and Newport Bay at Garnet Avenue, however, received Fs, and pollution-plagued Doheny State Beach in Dana Point earned a D.
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/sep/30/local/la-me-0930-oce...
Not the same as SoCal?
http://water.epa.gov/type/oceb/beaches/pollution.cfm
| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
This happens all the time to the southern California beaches as well. Northern beaches too.....Santa Cruz area for sure. I remember a newspaper
accounting of when Huntington Beach had syringes and needles washing up on the shoreline.
So what's the point of this topic? The article DID NOT state the number of MPN levels of enterococci. was it 201? 204? What number?
"....The criteria for considering a beach risky based on the amount of enterococci MPN/100 ml water beach these are determined as follows: 0 to 200
suitable for recreational use; Over 200 Not for recreational use".
Yes...post some warning signs on the beach....
This issue as the issues in California....is temporary and will be resolved. Visit San Felipe. It's a great town. |
What's the point of the topic? Seemed clear to me. It aint safe to go in the water in parts of SF right now.
Well, having lived in SoCal for over 45 years, I think the situation is quite different. Effluents in SoCal are either caused by 1-heavy rains that
clean out the arroyos after a long dry period, or 2-the occasional spill from a sewage treatment plant. That last one can occur ANYWHERE.
No, this sounds more like a lack of any real infrastructure for dealing with this or an infrastructure that has been compromised. It occured at two
places that are separated by miles. |
[Edited on 3-1-2012 by mcfez]
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Diver
Last week we had our septic tank pumped out.
When I jokingly asked my wife how she liked the smell, she said it reminded her of Baja !
I'm rather impressed that someone in Mexico actually tests the water. |
I wonder if they DARE test it when the temps are actually swimmable. What an outcry there would be from the business community.
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Oddjob
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The problem is that there is no sewage treatment in SF. What do you think happens when you flush a toilet along the shore in the area? I remember
staying in the casitas at the El Cortez Hotel, and the toilets wouldn't flush at high tide. The waters off of the California coast may be polluted after a storm from runoff or an occasional sewage spill, but San Felipe's water
has been unhealthy at all times for decades. The town of San Felipe is a dump and that is the reason that tourism is way down.
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David K
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"The town of San Felipe is a dump and that is the reason that tourism is way down."
Tourism is way down because we in the USA are broke and those who aren't are scared of getting killed after all the bad press Mexico gets. The town is
not a dump, it is no different than most towns that size in Baja.
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Oddjob
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You may be broke, but most folks aren't. To say that San Felipe is no different than most towns that size in Baja shows that you spend very little
time there.
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