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[*] posted on 3-3-2012 at 10:36 AM
Need Mexican wills —any advice or tips?


We need to do Mexican wills for our property in Loreto. Does
anyone with experience have any recommendations, tips or advice?
There is one month a year in Mexico when wills are allegedly half-price—September I think?
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[*] posted on 3-3-2012 at 10:42 AM


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We need to do Mexican wills for our property in Loreto. Does
anyone with experience have any recommendations, tips or advice?
There is one month a year in Mexico when wills are allegedly half-price—September I think?



Half price from whom? The Notario Publico?
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[*] posted on 3-3-2012 at 10:48 AM


I did one at the Notary. But I had someone translate for me what I wanted before I went in.



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[*] posted on 3-3-2012 at 10:49 AM


We got ours at the reduced rate this January from Lizarraga # 22 in La Paz.

Quick, cheap, professional and now we are recorded with his office and the registry office in that same city.
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[*] posted on 3-3-2012 at 11:28 AM


How much did your will cost to have done?
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[*] posted on 3-3-2012 at 11:29 AM


I think that March is also half price month



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[*] posted on 3-3-2012 at 12:00 PM


$75 dollars each (a couple needs two separate wills)
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[*] posted on 3-3-2012 at 10:28 PM


Are you getting a will because you have a fedicomisso ?



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[*] posted on 3-4-2012 at 07:11 AM


Had our will done by the Notario in Loreto a couple of years ago. I basically wrote it (with a little guideance from our US attorney). Had to pay to have it translated and pay the Notario to write it up and register it. Don't remember the exact costs, but guessing in was a couple hundered USD each.
We got them done here as our US estate attorney said that our US will may not be accepted my Mexico and it would be safer to just have a simple Mexican will JIC. All this so our kids can spend our money easier!!
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[*] posted on 3-4-2012 at 07:16 AM


If you have a fidicamiso now, and you have designated a beneficiary, then a will is not needed to protect your property.
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[*] posted on 3-4-2012 at 08:44 AM


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If you have a fidicamiso now, and you have designated a beneficiary, then a will is not needed to protect your property.


I think I'd spend the few Pesos and get the will. It may save your heirs some grief.
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[*] posted on 3-4-2012 at 09:16 AM


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If you have a fidicamiso now, and you have designated a beneficiary, then a will is not needed to protect your property.


I think I'd spend the few Pesos and get the will. It may save your heirs some grief.


Your "heirs" are fully covered from "grief" if they are listed as a beneficiary on your fidicamiso....which is a certified legal document, administered by a Mexican bank.
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[*] posted on 3-4-2012 at 09:23 AM
Fide Q???


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If you have a fidicamiso now, and you have designated a beneficiary, then a will is not needed to protect your property.


I think I'd spend the few Pesos and get the will. It may save your heirs some grief.


Your "heirs" are fully covered from "grief" if they are listed as a beneficiary on your fidicamiso....which is a certified legal document, administered by a Mexican bank.





Does a fidicamiso cover just the house/property, or does it also cover personal property, assets and distribution of personal property and requests for dispossession of remains???

I think I would rather have a Mexican will in place. I don't want anything administered by a foreign bank.




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[*] posted on 3-4-2012 at 09:24 AM


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a certified legal document, administered by a Mexican bank.



Now....there's an institution of iron clad promises. :lol::lol:

How many times have they expropriated dollar accounts and been federalized to cover the loses of an irresponsible government?

I don't care who you place your trust in. My choice would be to hedge my bet and buy the will.
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[*] posted on 3-4-2012 at 09:37 AM


By the way....banks have been known to withdraw Fideicomisos. It happened out at Punta Banda during the expropriation.
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[*] posted on 3-4-2012 at 09:44 AM


I just went through this with a Mexican attorney this past week.

If you have a beneficiary listed on your fidicamiso, you do not need a MX will to protect your property.
The beneficiary simply becomes the "trustee", once the original fidicamiso trustee has died.

This same attorney suggested that any vehicles and boats that are titled in the USA, be titled as "or", or "and or"
Now those vehicles can be removed, if so desired, because your heir is also listed as an owner on the ownership documents. This heir and co-owner, can simply show any MX authorities his/her ID and the vehicle title....showing their name as an owner.

Household goods are not subject to being titled, as far as ownership rights are concerned, and become the property of the beneficiary to your fidicamiso.
Televisions do not have a pink slip.

Let's say you die. Bob, your good friend, calls your son in San Diego and informs him you have died.
The son Bob comes down to MX (insert where you live) and wants to take over your possessions, including your home and valuable vehicles.

You have previously informed your son Bob that he is listed as a beneficiary to your home ownership document (fidicamiso) and all he need do is prove that is he is in fact, Bob.
If Bob so wishes, he can have the notario re-write the fidicamiso showing Bob as the new sole trustee.
Unless then Bob wishes to insert his new beneficiary.

Now Bob is free to sell, rent, bulldoze or whatever to his parents home.

If Bob is also listed as a co-owner to any vehicles, he simply proves that he is Bob and is in fact a listed owner on an ownership document.. Bob is then free to remove the vehicles if he so chooses...because he is in fact, an owner.

[Edited on 3-4-2012 by DaliDali]

[Edited on 3-4-2012 by DaliDali]
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[*] posted on 3-4-2012 at 09:54 AM


Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by DaliDali
a certified legal document, administered by a Mexican bank.



Now....there's an institution of iron clad promises. :lol::lol:

How many times have they expropriated dollar accounts and been federalized to cover the loses of an irresponsible government?

I don't care who you place your trust in. My choice would be to hedge my bet and buy the will.


Far be it from me to advise you how to spend your money.

I am only relaying what a MX attorney told me regarding fidicamisos and beneficiaries.

In fact, I suggest you consult with a MX attorney and get the scoop direct from the horses mouth.
If your told you need a MX will, by all means do it.

[Edited on 3-4-2012 by DaliDali]
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[*] posted on 3-4-2012 at 09:56 AM


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By the way....banks have been known to withdraw Fideicomisos. It happened out at Punta Banda during the expropriation.


And American banks have gone teets up....so what is your point?
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[*] posted on 3-4-2012 at 10:01 AM


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And American banks have gone teets up....so what is your point?



My point?? I think this statement of trust in a Mexican bank makes it your point:


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Originally posted by DaliDali
a certified legal document, administered by a Mexican bank.
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[*] posted on 3-4-2012 at 10:02 AM


Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by DaliDali
a certified legal document, administered by a Mexican bank.



Now....there's an institution of iron clad promises. :lol::lol:

How many times have they expropriated dollar accounts and been federalized to cover the loses of an irresponsible government?

I don't care who you place your trust in. My choice would be to hedge my bet and buy the will.


If your trust level of MX banking institutions is so low, how do you then square with a MX will being the savior of all your worldly possessions?

Is a MX will somehow more "secure" than a international banking institution?

[Edited on 3-4-2012 by DaliDali]
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