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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 12:11 AM
Carnival and Disney suspend tours to La Bufadora (Ensenada)


Too many tourists felt ripped-off by the local businessmen and the businesses selling counterfeit goods as genuine. It's hard to build tourism when the locals are working against you. So now they can sell nothing to no one. Pretty soon cruise lines will just pass by Mexico ports of call and let the passengers wave to shore- or they will build their own shore excursion "villages" as they do elsewhere. Too bad for La Bufadora, but no one to blame but themselves.

http://sintesistv.info/v2/noticias/ensenada/14240-2-lineas-n...

"Two cruise lines will suspend tours to La Bufadora in Ensenada after complaints by the visitors that they felt cheated by some businessmen.

The representative of the Secretary of Tourism in Ensenada, José Ángel León, said that the members of the Cruise Line Committee conducted an analysis where the Carnival Cruise Lines produced comments ranging from what was not liked to where people felt the were cheated in their visit to the port.

"The results of the analysis demonstrate that the cruise line tourists felt cheated and defrauded by the businessmen in the port, it should further be mentioned there are commercial streets were the sellers offer visitors imitation products saying they are real, " said the representative.

León Zumarán said that tourists of the Disney and Carnival lines made more than 100 comments regarding fraudulent sales in the La Bufadora tourist destination."




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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 12:39 AM


Time to clean house. (if it ever happens) This has been going on for more than 40 years. I have not been to the Buff for a long time because I can't stand the hawking! This will be a wake up call for them.
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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 06:06 AM


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Time to clean house. (if it ever happens) This has been going on for more than 40 years. I have not been to the Buff for a long time because I can't stand the hawking! This will be a wake up call for them.


If any place in the world can sleep through a wake up call, Ensenada is it.
We'll see.
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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 08:33 AM


Just took this out of Wanderglobe's BCN thread above to illustrate the problem area:

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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 08:36 AM


If they ever clean it up I will belive it when I see it. I would hate to spend money on a cruise and that Eyesore be the Highlite of of the Cruise.:no::no::no:
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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 08:40 AM


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If they ever clean it up I will belive it when I see it. I would hate to spend money on a cruise and that Eyesore be the Highlite of of the Cruise.:no::no::no:


I just heard the other day they pay around 40 bucks for the bus ride out here. 40 bucks...each.
WOW.....adding insult to injury, for sure.

Maybe I'll start mooning them from my deck when they drive by. Give them something to write home about. :lol:
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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 08:46 AM


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If they ever clean it up I will belive it when I see it. I would hate to spend money on a cruise and that Eyesore be the Highlite of of the Cruise.:no::no::no:


I just heard the other day they pay around 40 bucks for the bus ride out here. 40 bucks...each.
WOW.....adding insult to injury, for sure.

Maybe I'll start mooning them from my deck when they drive by. Give them something to write home about. :lol:










That would probaly work, It may not be a total loss they can stop and ride those half starved Horses in Punta Banda.:lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Edited on 3-5-2012 by J.P.]
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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 09:01 AM


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This has been going on for more than 40 years.


Yep ... the reason i always came to Baja ... shopping ... :lol::lol::lol:




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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 09:02 AM


Went there a couple of times, the tenacity of the vendors reminded me of Jehovah’s Witnesses but instead of pamphlets it was s they were pushing. A lot of the stuff being sold was made in China. The fraud complaints are a bit much to me though. I attributed them to thier preconceived notions that they are targets to be plucked, just a bit paranoid. The vendors will manipulate the exchange rate a bit in their favor, but what the heck, are a few centavos going to break them? These people are trying to feed thier family and maybe, just maybe, improve thier lives.

As it is, many store fronts have been shuttered and a lot of people have lost a source of income. I don't recall any tourists disappearing on a trip to the Blowhole, as has happened in Aruba.
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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 09:09 AM


PS:

To avoid further confusion possibly they could attach these stickers on locally made goods:


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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 09:11 AM


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PS:

To avoid further confusion possibly they could attach these stickers on locally made goods:





Ohhhh...that's not the correct spelling for CHINA. :lol:
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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 09:12 AM
Disappearing Tourists


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......... I don't recall any tourists disappearing on a trip to the Blowhole, as has happened in Aruba.





Actually, a busload of tourists did disappear a couple of weeks ago, however they were found several days later along the La Bufadora road in a pothole............




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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 09:16 AM


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......... I don't recall any tourists disappearing on a trip to the Blowhole, as has happened in Aruba.





Actually, a busload of tourists did disappear a couple of weeks ago, however they were found several days later along the La Bufadora road in a pothole............


I hope they stocked up on churros before landing in the pothole.
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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 09:18 AM


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......... I don't recall any tourists disappearing on a trip to the Blowhole, as has happened in Aruba.





Actually, a busload of tourists did disappear a couple of weeks ago, however they were found several days later along the La Bufadora road in a pothole............



:lol::lol::lol: Good, so I'll leave a note when I take of on my cruise in April. "If unable to locate me, please check pot holes near La Bufadora" :lol::lol::lol:

[Edited on 3-5-2012 by angels4]
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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 10:29 AM


This is one of my favorite signs in La Bufadora! And, this was a few years ago.



AND, another one... why the American Flag promoting Cuban Cigars????



[Edited on 3-5-2012 by Bob H]




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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 12:03 PM


Ohhh yeah....you can also buy Percodan and other mind numbing painkillers out there at a pharmacy....right across the counter too. No scrip necessary.
Authentic, real thing Percodan....just ask them. [in the states, they call Percodan "junior junk." Very addictive]
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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 12:27 PM


Bob H- That photo is now one of my favorites too! You just can't make that stuff up, thanks for posting it.



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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 02:02 PM


I think the shame should be totally on the cruise lines. we've all been on the 3-4 day cruises out of LA that go to Ensenada and sell the "Beach Party Tour" to Carlos 'n Charlies in Rosarito Beach. What an absolute joke. One time we made friends with three older women and their daughters who excitedly told us they couldn't wait to go to on the "Beach Party Tour" and then we told them about the beach being covered in winos, broken tequila bottles, syringes, cripped horses and dog poop and they got a refund and warned their friends about it.

These cruise lines know full well what they're selling. It's shameful. How many families have paid hard-earned money to waste a day of their cruise to go to La Bufadora and be totally disappointed?
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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 02:17 PM


Oh boy! Should I even get off the darn boat?:mad::mad::fire::fire: Maybe just stay on board and enjoy a cadillac margarita while all the others get ripped off :rolleyes:. Someone suggested the Wine Tour... But, at this point the more I read the more discouraged I get. Nice way for me to spend my birthday. But, I'll still make the best of it and eat to my heart's content :yes:
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[*] posted on 3-5-2012 at 02:49 PM


If Baja is serious about the expansion of tourism, La Buffadora is the place to start- not give up. The cruise lines have thrown down the gauntlet- let's see how well Mexico responds to their concerns.

We took friends visiting from the mainland there a few months ago. The hawkers were a PIA, but they still enjoyed the trip out there are were glad they went. The difference is these were Mexican tourists who just filter-out the bad stuff and not let it ruin their experience. An American/Canadian cruise ship passenger shelling out $40 for the excursion has a different level of expectation imho.

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