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[*] posted on 3-11-2012 at 04:09 PM
Old Tips to Beat the Heat


A couple old tricks to beat the summer heat..but maybe with newer and better products?


I did this about 10 years ago on my Coyote Bay casa roof...cuz it was Hotter'n the Gates of Hell inside during the months of June, July, August, and September. Torture for a northern child like me... For those months, I need icy clear-blue water, pines, rocks , and walleyes!

That roof paint did the job very well, indeed. Lowered the temp inside to a more comfy level...almost cool at times!

So here's what I did to cool mi casa. Not rocket science... and I'm fairly sure I'm not telling you anything really new, right? Well, don't shoot the messenger, Im merley trying to let you know that the reflective roof paint really does the job...just like it says it will on the can.

I used Henry's, a brand I have trusted over the years on my homes and also a few new apartment buildings.
They make a good product that actually does what they say it can...good customer satisfaction wins my vote.

Easy to roller on..or brush. I used one of my wife's floor mops....but maybe you should ask first on that idea. :rolleyes:



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If I were to add anything today...it would be some Arizona Mist fittings along the veranda...a fine, cooling mist in August would be heaven-sent, believe me!

I'm sure there are other great tips out there...got any good ones?




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[*] posted on 3-11-2012 at 04:23 PM


Another idea is that they make a heat reflective paint that goes on the under side of the roof in the attic/crawlspace (if available). It is really easier to spray on new construction but can lower interior ceiling temps by 10 degrees.



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[*] posted on 3-11-2012 at 05:29 PM


We're building in Mulege right now, so from time to time-- actually, a lot of the time-- I may be asking ya'all some preguntas, ok?

Efficiency: Can we put this reflective coating directly on a bare 3-ply roof and call it good? My husband's father did this on a house he built and believes it efficient at lowering heat transfer, thereby keeping the house interior cooler, and he swears it will keep the rain out. He did not put tar paper or laminate roofing over this, btw, just a special white coating directly onto the 3-ply roof.

Can we paint this on both sides of the 3-ply roofing material for double-duty?

What's the cost of Henry's and is Comex Top 2000 an equivalent?




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[*] posted on 3-11-2012 at 05:40 PM


This site or other of Henry's Products may help you, Mulegena.

http://www.finishing.com/116/34.shtml

I know just the application of solar paint over a roof of any material will lower the temps inside, but please double check online for you own satisfaction.



Henry's 5 gallon pails were about $110 each when I bought them, but I don't have a current price. You should check online with Home Depot or Lowes for current prices.

My coverage per 5 gallon bucket was about 250 square feet of roof. Do not thin it out...cover the area well.

I have used the locally bought Comex paint before, but not on the roof for cooling purposes, so can't give you a comparison..lo siento.

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[*] posted on 3-11-2012 at 06:30 PM


It takes more than just adding some misting nozzles. Even with a regular booster pump you will end up soaking wet. The nice commercial units have pumps that generate obscene pressure but really produce the fine cooling mist that you are seeking.



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[*] posted on 3-11-2012 at 06:37 PM


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It takes more than just adding some misting nozzles. Even with a regular booster pump you will end up soaking wet. The nice commercial units have pumps that generate obscene pressure but really produce the fine cooling mist that you are seeking.


Right on, Alan...I had the whole system installed on a home I owned in Mesa, Arizona. It was magnificant in summer! The neighbors were crazy for one. Also those portable standing misting fans from Home Depot were okay in a pinch..and especially if you were in your swim trunks or bikini! So nice to cool off. I first saw those in use at a Twins baseball game in the hot dugouts.

Simple and cheap. Get misted!



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[*] posted on 3-11-2012 at 07:06 PM


misting is a great idea ..... I should mention it to my Brazilian friends who swelter in the oppressive heat just like yu Mulegeans ....




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[*] posted on 3-11-2012 at 09:29 PM


I don't think misting will work in Mulege where the RH is really high in the summer. You need a dry heat climate (like AZ) so the water will actually evoporate and produce a cooling effect. Down here, it'll just make you wet and hot.
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[*] posted on 3-11-2012 at 11:00 PM


Adding this to the paint/tar:

http://www.hytechsales.com/buy_ceramicadditive.html

Will help reduce interior heat as well. I put some on the roof of my campervan. noticeable difference
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[*] posted on 3-12-2012 at 06:47 AM


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Originally posted by ncampion
I don't think misting will work in Mulege where the RH is really high in the summer. You need a dry heat climate (like AZ) so the water will actually evoporate and produce a cooling effect. Down here, it'll just make you wet and hot.


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Same reason that swamp coolers only work in dry desert climates.
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[*] posted on 3-12-2012 at 09:46 AM


get some and import Kool-ply aluminized roof sheathing.
all sun heat is bounced back to the vertical and not contained in the attic or interstitial areas.




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[*] posted on 3-12-2012 at 09:54 AM


How about ventilation? I am a fan of having both very high and very low vents in a warm climate home. If possible, make the low vents on the north side or in the shade.

Convection will flow the hot air out the higher vents, and the drop in pressure will draw cooler air in through the lower vents.

Designing a house to maximize air circulation throughout is also a plus. I like two windows, on different walls, in each room if possible.
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[*] posted on 3-12-2012 at 10:14 AM


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How about ventilation? I am a fan of having both very high and very low vents in a warm climate home. If possible, make the low vents on the north side or in the shade.

Convection will flow the hot air out the higher vents, and the drop in pressure will draw cooler air in through the lower vents.

Designing a house to maximize air circulation throughout is also a plus. I like two windows, on different walls, in each room if possible.


Yes, vent, vent, vent. Exactly what I did in my master bedroom...high and low vents....lets low-lying cold air in..and high-rising hot air out. Plus a low-energy exhaust fan up high to boost the hot air out.

Insulation in the ceiling. Ceiling fan. Small window AC unit..and now it's affectionately called ... The Cold Room.




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[*] posted on 3-12-2012 at 10:37 AM
staying cool


Hola,all,,I like the mister's and I use a water filter ,so they stay working right !! K&T:cool: PS< Were a heading north now ,,poco a poco
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[*] posted on 3-12-2012 at 10:52 AM


In addition to the mechanical & structural tips on cooling...and as much as I hate talking about 'dieting ...or.. eating the right foods!!' I am reminded by a certain far-away co-pilot to include changing your eating habits during the hot season.

I do do grudgingly now:


Summer Health Tips - Beating the Heat!
Its 114 degrees out there, and your skin seems to be sucking the heat in deeper into your body rather than helping you cool down. An occasional afternoon downpour brings more grief than relief for it layers on humidity that is thick enough to slice with a knife. Throw in a little pollution and each second becomes pure hell when you are outdoors.



Can certain foods help towards reversing some of this exchange of body heat? Yes, they most certainly can!

Why and how does this heat exchange happen?
On sultry, humid days, muscles compete with the skin for blood circulation. When it's hot outside, more blood flows near the skin to help dissipate body heat and cool the body down thereby keeping your body's temperature from rising to dangerous levels. But that can mean less blood reaches muscles, hence the lethargy.

At the same time, as when your body becomes hotter, muscle enzymes speed up and burn glycogen more rapidly, depleting stores of the sugar that your muscles use for fuel. Hence it's imperative to drink plenty of fluids that would help hydrate your muscles and skin adequately in order to maintain internal cooling down.

Is it a good idea to apply wet rags over your forehead, thereby reducing the heat entering your brain?
Not necessarily. Neither is it a good idea to wet your head down entirely, especially for kids who have just finished playing a sport. You have to make the heat move outwards. Too much water on the skin's surface inhibits sweat evaporation that helps cool the body down.

To handle this heat onslaught and ensure your body is as cool as it can possibly be, we suggest a few measures that are easy to follow:
1. Eat light, small, frequent meals. Start the morning with a sweet, juicy fruit at breakfast. Ripe summer fruits - peaches, plums, melons and pears, are exactly what your skin craves for in the hot season. Citrus fruits are also very cooling. Eat whole or extract their juice, store in the refrigerator and sip often throughout the day.

2. Include salads in your diet. Consuming leafy lettuce and summer greens, corn on cob and cucumbers, in salads are delicious ways to stay cool. These foods contain a significant amount of water and can actually thin the blood, which has a cooling effect. Onions too are great in the summer, because of their ability to beat the heat and provide relief from summer ailments. So, throw in some washed onion slices onto a sandwich, or in your salad.

3. If you get burnt (sun stroke or heat stroke), seek relief by sipping on green tea or take a spoon of onion juice. They are potent antioxidants that can neutralize cellular damage caused by the sun's rays.

4. To cool the body through sweating, add small amounts of hot spices to food while cooking. Hot peppers, fresh ginger, and black pepper are all great spices to make it really hot for you and then to cool you down.

5. Hydrate your body. Drink at least 8-10 glasses of water a day. Water is the best drink as it doesn't contain any sugars that can add up to unnecessary calories. For a change, a lemon and honey drink can also instantly replenish your body's lost fluids and work as an energizer. Drink fluids even if you are not yet thirsty. Once you have the feeling of being thirsty means you are already dehydrated.

6. Wear loose, full-sleeved cotton clothes to protect the body from the sun and to aid evaporation of sweat. Use a hat to protect your head from the sun you go out

7. Stay indoors. Restrict outdoor activities to the cooler parts of the day - early mornings before 10.30am or late evenings after 530pm

The not so cool:
•If you're a non-vegetarian, you should limit red meat and instead go for fish and oysters.

•Avoid extreme cold foods and drinks - most of us normally pick these and they are actually known to interfere with digestion and sweating, thereby interfering with the body's natural cooling mechanisms. So, however tempting it may be to sit on your porch licking an ice cream cone or sipping a cool glass of tea, try a wedge of watermelon instead.

As the mercury rises, the last thing on one's mind is food - but if you eat smart, small & light meals and accompany it with plenty of fluids you will be a cool winner.

So go ahead and take these obvious precautions! But remember the best place to start the cooling process is in your body's core.


...And that's the lecture from the "Let's all get healthy Guru." Ciao baby.

p.s. for me this is a much more fun way to 'beat the heat' in Baja!




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[*] posted on 3-12-2012 at 11:56 AM


More roof paint/color info



http://www.architecturalroofcoat.com/PDF%20CHARTS/ARC%20COMP...

http://eetd.lbl.gov/CoolRoofs/
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[*] posted on 3-12-2012 at 12:18 PM


I like the idea of evaporating pressurized and condensed dichlorodifluoromethane inside copper tubing and blowing air past the tubing into the room. That works really well.
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[*] posted on 3-12-2012 at 12:31 PM
Two helpful hints


#1. Get nekked

#2. Drink COLD Pacifico




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