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sancho
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Litter in San Felipe
Off the SF site, hope it is credited correctly,
this last weekend's 250 race, and the litter
left by spectators, Gringo trash or otherwise,
not a good representation, but probably not
Baja Afficianado's
http://sanfelipe.com.mx/2012/03/13/and-now-to-clean-up-the-m...
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DENNIS
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I have yet to see an event anywhere SOB that had sufficient trash cans. La Bufadora Mall is like that every weekend.
I have to ask myself what I would do with a handful of trash and no place to put it.
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willardguy
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they should move the race to easter week and clean up only once
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Oddjob
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In my observations, the vast majority of the trash is left by the Mexican spectators.
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I don't recall ever seeing a trash can that wasn't overflowing...even the ones on the toll road where you know the have the money to empty them. On
the good side, full ones keep dogs and crows happy.
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Barry A.
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"pack it in/pack it out".
That's why portable plastic trash bags were invented! We NEVER leave our trash anywhere but in not-full trash containers, at the dump, or we take it
home with us. PERIOD!!!!! Our family has done that FOREVER.
From my point of view there is NO excuse for littering!!!!!
People who leave their trash is where the term "poor _______ Trash" came from (you add the color of your skin in the blank).
It's a disgusting habit!!!!
Barry
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DENNIS
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All cultures, or segments of a culture, don't share an equal amount of civic responsibility and pride. One man's land-fill is another mans rose
garden.
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
All cultures, or segments of a culture, don't share an equal amount of civic responsibility and pride. One man's land-fill is another mans rose
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I suppose you are right, Dennis, but I will NEVER comprehend it---------"trash" freely blowing around or just "sitting there" just gives me a very
sick feeling about Humans-------the only word I can come up with is "disgust"!!!
So, I fill my little plastic bag and try and go about my business feeling that AT LEAST I did "something". Makes ME feel better, anyway. And then I
just forget about it as I have "done my thing". 
Barry
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sancho
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
"pack it in/pack it out".
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No doubt a mandatory rule to conduct ones selve by,
but as pointed out, Mex locals do not view throwing
basura around as anything negative, more as
just a common occurance
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
All cultures, or segments of a culture, don't share an equal amount of civic responsibility and pride. |
dennis:
i think people have similar amounts of pride and civic responsibility. you are mistaken to think that littering indicates they have no pride or
responsibility. -- they just have different priorities and different sense of aesthetics, and different cultural practices and expectations
gringos used to be very filthy litter bugs -- greenies waged propaganda campaign on litterbugs and cured gringos of their filthy habits. greenies are
great!
give a hoot, don't pollute!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
All cultures, or segments of a culture, don't share an equal amount of civic responsibility and pride. |
dennis:
i think people have similar amounts of pride and civic responsibility. you are mistaken to think that littering indicates they have no pride or
responsibility. -- they just have different priorities and different sense of aesthetics, and different cultural practices and expectations
gringos used to be very filthy litter bugs -- greenies waged propaganda campaign on litterbugs and cured gringos of their filthy habits. greenies are
great!
give a hoot, don't pollute! |
--------mostly correct, Goat, but there were a lot more folks than just "greenies" involved in that effort, and still are, as I can testify too.
"Litter" has NEVER been a political issue that I am aware of. This Nation has made tremendous progress and it is noticable, at least in the areas
where I have been (mostly in the West). However, when I now travel east of LA down into the desert (often) I notice that there seems to be a
resurgence of the problem--------and that is a shame!!! Anza-Borrego Desert State Park itself is an exception, and looks great!!!! almost little
free now. Makes me feel really good!!!
Barry
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
dennis:
i think people have similar amounts of pride and civic responsibility. you are mistaken to think that littering indicates they have no pride or
responsibility. -- |
I didn't say anything like that. It's just that we have different interpretations of tolerable and intolerable littering.
Me, for instance....I'm a firm believer that you can't litter aluminum. In fact, throwing your empty beer cans on the side of the road is an
enrichment to someone else. That Tecate can will be in his bag before the second bounce. 
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dennis, this is what you said:
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
All cultures, or segments of a culture, don't share an equal amount of civic responsibility and pride. One man's land-fill is another mans rose
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
gringos used to be very filthy litter bugs -- greenies waged propaganda campaign on litterbugs and cured gringos of their filthy habits. greenies are
great!
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Yeah??? Well, I sure don't want to offend anyone on the board, but those Greenies should follow around some of the French Canadians that visit
Mexico. They can be the most ant-trash can people I've ever seen.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
dennis, this is what you said:
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
All cultures, or segments of a culture, don't share an equal amount of civic responsibility and pride. One man's land-fill is another mans rose
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Yeah....I know what I said. I said people are different. Not everybody took Garbage 1A and 1B in college like you did.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
I'm a firm believer that you can't litter aluminum. In fact, throwing your empty beer cans on the side of the road is an enrichment to someone else.
That Tecate can will be in his bag before the second bounce. |
"firm believer?"
whatever!
maybe the mexican litterbug just is like you, takes pride in leaving his filthy litter for scavengers to pick through, eh?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
maybe the mexican litterbug just is like you, takes pride in leaving his filthy litter for scavengers to pick through, eh? |
Filthy litter?? My beer cans?? Shame on you and your elitist ways. There was one old man in Ensenada who followed me around for years catching my
flying aluminum. He earned so much money that he branched off to other fields of commerce. Perhaps you've heard of him......Carlos Slim Helú??
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......that made me laugh....thanks Dennis.
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I really don't want to start a culture war here,
but like it was said in some above posts,, Mexicans are really terrble about leaving there trash, I seen it here in Yuma at the River, they could care
less
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| Quote: | Originally posted by desertcpl
but like it was said in some above posts,, Mexicans are really terrble about leaving there trash, I seen it here in Yuma at the River, they could care
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I agree. Some [not all] are. The younger, better educated folks are well aware of the proper methods of trash disposal and have a peer group to
answer to.
That said.....one of life's great teachers has yet to enter the scene in Mexico....a cop with a big, fat ticket book for litterers. That will train a
person's conscience in short order. Until that time, we just have to accept what it is.
One thing I refuse to do; when some in the expat community gather together to clean a beach after a Mexican holiday....they can count me out. I
didn't come down here to be anybody's janitor....or moral example.
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[Edited on 3-13-2012 by DENNIS]
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