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[*] posted on 3-15-2012 at 07:35 AM
Pemex prices


What is the price of fuel in Baja at the moment? Thanks
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[*] posted on 3-15-2012 at 07:36 AM


Yesterday in Guerro Negro Diesel was 10.09 pesos a litre. Don't know about gasoline.
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[*] posted on 3-15-2012 at 08:20 AM


Same price ($10.09 per liter diesel) here in LP 2 days ago.

So, given today's exchange rate that would be $3.01 usd per gallon.




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[*] posted on 3-15-2012 at 08:26 AM


yesterday my factura shows i paid
$2.91 usa a gallon for regular gas




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[*] posted on 3-15-2012 at 08:50 AM


Yesterday in CSL = 2.89 usa per gallon for regular gas.
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[*] posted on 3-15-2012 at 11:42 AM


Just updated our page yesterday...

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[*] posted on 3-15-2012 at 04:23 PM


Forgive me for having a chuckle about this thread, but....

Given that Mexico controls the price of fuel, and it is virtually always cheaper than one would pay NOB, why would anyone care about the price of Pemex?

If you are traveling Baja, or mainland, you obviously need to buy the stuff. And since there is government control, with the exception of certain known stations that game their pumps and should be avoided, you will pay the same price wherever you stop.

That said, in the US, where there are no price controls, the recent spike in gasoline prices has nothing to do with supply and demand. The rise in prices is simply related to rogue speculators, who have no stake in the fuel business, just playing the market for profit.

A recent Bloomberg article suggests that one third of today's current cost for crude is due to speculators.

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-03-07/have-oil-spe...
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[*] posted on 3-15-2012 at 04:36 PM


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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Given that Mexico controls the price of fuel, and it is virtually always cheaper than one would pay NOB, why would anyone care about the price of Pemex?



:lol::lol: Probably for the same reason that I still wear a watch. Inquiring minds...and all that stuff.
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[*] posted on 3-15-2012 at 06:33 PM


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why would anyone care about the price of Pemex?


Maybe they want to know how much it costs to drive someplace.


[Edited on 3-16-2012 by SFandH]
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[*] posted on 3-15-2012 at 06:37 PM


It's that it is gov't regulated and the same all over the whole country. (except for the rateros who specialize in overcharging/underfilling)

It doesn't fluctuate like in the good ole US of A.
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[*] posted on 3-15-2012 at 10:01 PM


Let's nationalize USA oil (they are mostly taking oil from our public lands anyway) use the profits for health and education and at the same time lowering gas to $2.75 and diesel to $2.89. Those oil companies pay no taxes in the USA, are heavily subsidized by the taxpayer. Take a lesson from Mexico for once!



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[*] posted on 3-16-2012 at 07:28 AM


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Let's nationalize USA oil (they are mostly taking oil from our public lands anyway) use the profits for health and education and at the same time lowering gas to $2.75 and diesel to $2.89. Those oil companies pay no taxes in the USA, are heavily subsidized by the taxpayer. Take a lesson from Mexico for once!


Oh yeah, the government always does things in the most efficient, cost effective manner!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[*] posted on 3-16-2012 at 11:07 AM


On Monday 3-12 I filled up in San Felipe Magna was 9.60/liter..Stopped again in Mexicali to top off before crossing the border Magna was 10.00/liter..
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[*] posted on 3-16-2012 at 11:13 AM


I think in the larger cities there is a local tax. I noticed a higher price in TJ, too.

I always fill up in Ensenada to avoid that extra cost.
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[*] posted on 3-16-2012 at 12:00 PM


Pemex prices within 20K of the border have been higher than the rest for many years.



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[*] posted on 3-16-2012 at 04:35 PM


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Let's nationalize USA oil (they are mostly taking oil from our public lands anyway) use the profits for health and education and at the same time lowering gas to $2.75 and diesel to $2.89. Those oil companies pay no taxes in the USA, are heavily subsidized by the taxpayer. Take a lesson from Mexico for once!


First, for Bajalou. Although there is a national price control on Pemex, the border regions have some slack, simply because they want to discourage Americans from crossing the border just to buy gas.

That said, right now, there is absolutely no shortage of crude or of refined gasoline in the US.

Fact is that this past year, the US exported a boatload of petroleum to foreign customers.

We are caught in a situation where crude prices and refined prices are being manipulated by "gamblers" on Wall Street for their own personal profit.

Anyone who followed the proposed Keystone pipeline project that was nixed by Obama ought to know that this Canada to Texas pipeline was designed to ship crude from Canada to Texas, where either refined or not, it was to be shipped to foreign markets. None of that Canadian crude was earmarked to the US market.

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[*] posted on 3-17-2012 at 05:54 AM


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American crude to American refineries... watch the gas prices (and everything else) drop! Drill baby, drill... We can say no to Middle East and Venezuela oil!:light:


No, no, no, no Mr. Sunshine. I mean, Hayzeus Creesto, ya got it all bass ackwards.

Here ya go:

After declining to levels not seen since the 1940s, U.S. crude production began rising again in 2009. Drilling rigs have rushed into the nation's oil fields, suggesting a surge in domestic crude is on the horizon.

The number of rigs in U.S. oil fields has more than quad­rupled in the past three years to 1,272, according to the Baker Hughes rig count. Including those in natural gas fields, the United States now has more rigs at work than the entire rest of the world.

"It's staggering," said Marshall Adkins, who directs energy research for the financial services firm Raymond James. "If we continue growing anywhere near that pace and keep squeezing demand out of the system, that puts you in a world where we are not importing oil in 10 years."


So you see, oil production has been increasing since 2009 and so have gas prices!!! And, because of the recession, we're burning less of the stuff in our cars and trucks.

Supply up (good ole US supply to boot), demand down, and we have higher prices at the pump. It can't be!!

Clearly we need to shut down oil production and increase demand to bring gas prices back down. (that's a joke folks)

Or, maybe there's a bit more to the oil business than "spill baby spill" oops I mean, well you know.

http://www.chron.com/business/article/U-S-oil-gusher-blows-o...

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[*] posted on 3-17-2012 at 06:12 AM


sfandh maybe correct...if we dont use oil the price will drop

of course the country would go bankrupt if we didnt buy BIG 50k cars

but you NEED to add in smog laws and fines to saving gas use savings

the new "oil free" technnology need to be used but used by our companies already in place

it will take decades




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[*] posted on 3-17-2012 at 06:43 AM


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Let's nationalize USA oil (they are mostly taking oil from our public lands anyway) use the profits for health and education and at the same time lowering gas to $2.75 and diesel to $2.89. Those oil companies pay no taxes in the USA, are heavily subsidized by the taxpayer. Take a lesson from Mexico for once!


First, for Bajalou. Although there is a national price control on Pemex, the border regions have some slack, simply because they want to discourage Americans from crossing the border just to buy gas.

That said, right now, there is absolutely no shortage of crude or of refined gasoline in the US.

Fact is that this past year, the US exported a boatload of petroleum to foreign customers.

We are caught in a situation where crude prices and refined prices are being manipulated by "gamblers" on Wall Street for their own personal profit.

Anyone who followed the proposed Keystone pipeline project that was nixed by Obama ought to know that this Canada to Texas pipeline was designed to ship crude from Canada to Texas, where either refined or not, it was to be shipped to foreign markets. None of that Canadian crude was earmarked to the US market.

Enjoy!:P


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The massive oil fields discovered in North Dakota would be tapping into the Keystone Pipeline for a SAFE transport to American refineries in Texas.

To be sent overseas. Over 60% of fuel refined in the US goes abroad in order to create a shortage here and drive up prices
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[*] posted on 3-17-2012 at 10:18 AM


Are you suggesting some kind of change so that domestic oil is to stay in America?

Isn't part of our problem with cost of oil being high because the dollar has lost value with us being owned by the Red Chinese? Doesn't selling U.S. products (oil included) offset our trade inbalance? If we become a major exporter of oil (again), doesn't that make the dollar stronger and thus reduce the price of oil?

I know that when the dollar is worth more in Mexico the price of Pemex goes down.

It isn't an easy fix, but when supply goes up, the price goes down. We have discovered so much oil in North Dakota, it isn't funny, it's for real. The time for America to come back from the past 5 years of gloom is now. We need jobs, we need prosperity... we don't need more and more people on food stamps!




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