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[*] posted on 3-16-2012 at 04:39 PM
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now here is a question for you Baja buffs: saw it on an older map some years ago and when Google Earth became available I checked it out.
Yes, there is an air strip high up in the Sierra la Asamblea. Who put it there? When and why?

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[*] posted on 3-16-2012 at 05:07 PM


Harald,

as per Google Earth the strip measures about 865' of length.

That is quiet short for a runway at a +4000' elevation. The elevation difference between both strip ends is about 36'.

The terrain start to rise up approx. 1 mile away from the end of "runway 21" (downhill runway)

Too short for me to fly in there:o

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[*] posted on 3-16-2012 at 05:27 PM


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Yes, there is an air strip high up in the Sierra la Asamblea. Who put it there? When and why?


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[*] posted on 3-16-2012 at 05:34 PM


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Yes, there is an air strip high up in the Sierra la Asamblea. Who put it there? When and why?


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I suspect the Goat is speaking from experience.

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[*] posted on 3-16-2012 at 06:16 PM


rockerfellers or kennedys. either way, it's old money, er cartel!



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[*] posted on 3-16-2012 at 07:09 PM


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Harald,

as per Google Earth the strip measures about 865' of length.

That is quiet short for a runway at a +4000' elevation. The elevation difference between both strip ends is about 36'.

The terrain start to rise up approx. 1 mile away from the end of "runway 21" (downhill runway)

Too short for me to fly in there:o

Karl


Karl,

too short to fly in or not - someone went through the pain of creating this thing (bulldozer etc?) who and why?




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[*] posted on 3-16-2012 at 07:56 PM


What's interesting is that there is no road leading up to it... It looks like a mission trail, but on top of a mountain with no connection up or down?

Have you seen the DC-3 wreck on Cerro La Gobernadora... just northeast of El Crucero, near the top?




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[*] posted on 3-16-2012 at 08:10 PM


It would be "sporty" but doable in a bush plane, C180, C185, maybe even a 206. It would be a piece of cake in a super cub or similar plane.....assuming it was somewhat maintained.



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[*] posted on 3-16-2012 at 10:22 PM


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What's interesting is that there is no road leading up to it... It looks like a mission trail, but on top of a mountain with no connection up or down?

Have you seen the DC-3 wreck on Cerro La Gobernadora... just northeast of El Crucero, near the top?


This air strip looks like a drop off place for a helicopter transfer of drugs! Very efficient and clandestine for this type of activity. A small plane lands, unloads to a helicopter, etc.

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[*] posted on 3-17-2012 at 07:57 AM


When I was researching a planned trip to Salsipuedes canyon years ago I talked to Fransisco Munoz about that airstrip. He said it was an illegal strip used to drop off big horn sheep hunters, probably back in the 50's and 60's.
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[*] posted on 3-17-2012 at 08:04 AM


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What's interesting is that there is no road leading up to it... It looks like a mission trail, but on top of a mountain with no connection up or down?

Have you seen the DC-3 wreck on Cerro La Gobernadora... just northeast of El Crucero, near the top?


Haven't seen the DC-3 - never heard about it. Do you have a fixed point?




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[*] posted on 3-17-2012 at 10:02 AM


i like Larry's idea. Munoz would have known.

a Storch with big tires could have done it easily and with a load of hunters.




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[*] posted on 3-17-2012 at 10:27 AM


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What's interesting is that there is no road leading up to it... It looks like a mission trail, but on top of a mountain with no connection up or down?

Have you seen the DC-3 wreck on Cerro La Gobernadora... just northeast of El Crucero, near the top?


Haven't seen the DC-3 - never heard about it. Do you have a fixed point?


In 2004, I posted a reply to TW about Erle Stanley Gardner's book chapter on the lost mission of Santa Ysabel... Erle describes its location in relation to the DC-3 wreck... So, thanks to Nomad Search, here is the location (provided by BillB, who hiked up to it):

The DC-3 plane wreck that the chapter starts out talking about is on Cerro la Gobernadora (just northeast of El Crucero). GPS at the wreck is: 29°17.33'/ 114°06.57'

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[*] posted on 3-17-2012 at 10:29 AM


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When I was researching a planned trip to Salsipuedes canyon years ago I talked to Fransisco Munoz about that airstrip. He said it was an illegal strip used to drop off big horn sheep hunters, probably back in the 50's and 60's.
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Very cool detail! Thanks Larry!




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[*] posted on 3-17-2012 at 10:31 AM


are there any photo's of the dc-3?
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[*] posted on 3-17-2012 at 10:36 AM


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are there any photo's of the dc-3?


BillB sent them to me, so I need to search and try and find them.

They were posted on Nomad, but this site lost many years of photos posted that were hosted on Nomad (one reason why I use Photobucket now)... Doug says he can get them back, but he has been saying that for years... and it is old stuff, so how many look back at old posts?




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[*] posted on 3-17-2012 at 10:55 AM


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What's interesting is that there is no road leading up to it... It looks like a mission trail, but on top of a mountain with no connection up or down?

Have you seen the DC-3 wreck on Cerro La Gobernadora... just northeast of El Crucero, near the top?


Haven't seen the DC-3 - never heard about it. Do you have a fixed point?


In 2004, I posted a reply to TW about Erle Stanley Gardner's book chapter on the lost mission of Santa Ysabel... Erle describes its location in relation to the DC-3 wreck... So, thanks to Nomad Search, here is the location (provided by BillB, who hiked up to it):

The DC-3 plane wreck that the chapter starts out talking about is on Cerro la Gobernadora (just northeast of El Crucero). GPS at the wreck is: 29º17.33'/ 114º06.57'


corrected nomenclature for those coords is 29º 17.33' -114º 06.57' (dk: you forgot that you need to say negative long when citing coords in mexico)

but nothing visible in google earth at that location
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[*] posted on 3-17-2012 at 12:44 PM


Goat, most of us know that we are in the Western Hemisphere and a W or - sign must go along with the numbers on Google Earth.

I have not been able to yet find the DC-3 wreck photos from BillB... I do remember that there wasn't much left... The wreck is near the top on the eastern slope face, from my memory.

The GPS waypoing might be NAD27 and needs to be converted to WGS84 for Google Earth. When/ if I find the photos or the wreck on GE, I will post it here...




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[*] posted on 3-17-2012 at 02:44 PM


The DC-3 is at the army base in Ensenada. It currently has a yellow tail.



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