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Hendo
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Marine radio for mulege
I'm bringing a boat down. Wanted to have some form of safety link with a marine radio. What are some suggestions? Handheld vs. Onboard? Also not
sure if there is any lingo that would help. Thanks in advance.
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woody with a view
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AYUDA repeated in rapid succession should get someone's attention. all kidding aside, i hope you never need to use one.
i have two handheld that are used for comm's while on the road and if we are soloing on a fishing trip we try to leave one on the beach with someone.
granted, we're in a tin can so we aren't going out much farther than we can swim if we need to. i'm prolly good for a couple of miles in the
summer.....
it sure would be nice if someone would post a cohesive thread listing the channels used in each place down the coast.
[Edited on 4-5-2012 by woody with a view]
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Pompano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
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.....it sure would be nice if someone would post a cohesive thread listing the channels used in each place down the coast.
[Edited on 4-5-2012 by woody with a view] |
Woody, we did just that a couple years ago. Do a search and you should run across it.
Mulege offshore fisherman's monitoring channel is 22.
Regular call channel is 16, same as most other places.
Ch. 73, 74....as Russ reminds me a little further north?..
and so on..'
Search and ye shall find.
[Edited on 4-5-2012 by Pompano]
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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Russ
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Punta Chivato ~ 73
San Bruno - San Lucus ! 74
Mulege ~ 22
If you have the option (a battery) get the mounted unit and a decent antenna (8')
Bigger is better in safety situations.
Bahia Concepcion where life starts...given a chance!
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ncampion
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Also handhelds are limited to 5 watts whereas most base radios can transmit with 25 watts.
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woody with a view
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which is fine for me. i'm not talking over the horizon.
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Bob and Susan
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the black tip antenna is better than the white
and always have a professional put the screw-on part on...
they come without it soldered
we have both
and here on the bay the mountains sometimes get in the way of the hand-helds signal
but the hand-held would be my choice then no battery needed on the smaller boat
if the battery dies...on the bigger units...no radio
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Mulege "Net" is on CH 21 9:00 M-F..local news, weather fishing report etc...CH 22 is the on Water Channel...If you have an on the water problem, 22
will get more response than 16.....
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Hook
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Will you have a GPS? Fixed mount or handheld? Nice to be able to give numbers on your location, especially if it is a boat under 18 feet or so. Small
boats can be hard to spot in inclement conditions.
If you have the space and battery capacity to run a GPS, then definitely get a fixed mount marine radio. It takes a lot to run down a decent battery
on a boat, if your charging system is working. Range is MORE than five times that of a fixed mount due to the antenna as well as the increased power.
I do carry a HH as a backup, but it's rather shocking how much reduced the range is. Much of it is the shortness of the antenna.
If going HH, make sure you get one that allows you to replace the lithium ion battery that it came with for AA alkaline batteries in a pinch. Good HH
will come with a cartridge that allows for for using AA batts. Or buy a second lithium ion batt as a backup.
[Edited on 4-5-2012 by Hook]
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The big difference comes from the transmitting antenna, so go for the best antenna you can afford. We had a guy from San Lucas Cove who had an
inflatable boat but had the good sense to put on a good antenna and when he went out for billfish the safety lanyard attached to his key start failed
and he could not get the motor started. Luckily he was heard on the radio and we had someone pick him up within an hour.
Channels reported are all good, San Lucas Cove goes on Channel 78. So with the list here you should have good contact all of the time.
Some time ago we were all on channel 72 and we were able to recieve the Saturday morning Sailors net from San Carlos by Guaymas.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
I do carry a HH as a backup, but it's rather shocking how much reduced the range is. Much of it is the shortness of the antenna.
If going HH, make sure you get one that allows you to replace the lithium ion battery that it came with for AA alkaline batteries in a pinch. Good HH
will come with a cartridge that allows for for using AA batts. Or buy a second lithium ion batt as a backup.
[Edited on 4-5-2012 by Hook] |
I agree with all of Hook's suggestions. You can buy an adapter for the HH antenna that allowes you to use a short length of coax cable to run to a
standard fixed antenna. I do this on my MH for increased range. (I know it's not legal to use a marine radio in a MH, but I bet we all do it on the
Baja road to keep in touch with other traveles in our group)
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VHF
HOLA, I highly recomend buying a stanard or a Icom radio and Kenwood !!! and install a fixed mount vhf and do not cut the rg-58 coax ant. wire shorter
than 8 ft..very important for the inductence factor and then keep a HH also onboard,,,some day you will need both,,aka comm's and ease of staying in
touch !!!! and a good ant. with raditor's (brass) cost a bit more but work a lot better !! and as someone said on this post,,, have the PL-259
connecter done buy someone who knows what the hell they are doing and waterproof all connection,s and run the right size power lead's...TX need's
good juice !!!!! K&T PS, do not solder the connection's !!!
[Edited on 4-5-2012 by captkw]
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Bob and Susan
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if you donot solder the connections
what do YOU do?
without a good connection your radio is worthless
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ABSOLUTELY solder the connections and DO NOT shorten the coax that comes with the antenna.
The antenna relies on all of that length of cable to achieve an even divisor or multiple of the wave length of the VHF marine frequency. This assumes
you arent using an antenna with a bogus dummy load in the middle of the antenna. Just find a way to bundle up the excess and cable tie it out of the
way.
The twist on/screw on 259 connectors are complete dung. And it really isnt rocket science to solder a soldered connection. Lots of illustrations on
the net or even on the packet containing the PL-259.
[Edited on 4-6-2012 by Hook]
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HOOK/b
HOLA,,hhummm...I don't know what you do for a living,,but I know what I do !!.... Marine Electrical and feul injection specialist.......we have
reg's,rule's and starndard's..like the ABYC and the CFR'S (fed) and soldering is only on very specil app's on Large vessel..I know your thinking your
doing the best,,but such is not the case..I see a few boat's in each season with the owner's self installed Elec. gear with solder and have,, had to
explain to WAY to many folk's as to the many reason's we do not solder on boat's !!! K&T
[Edited on 4-6-2012 by captkw]
[Edited on 4-6-2012 by captkw]
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i'll bite
why do we not solder on boats?
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bob and susan
HOLA,,ya got a land line # you can u2u me with...it takes awhile to explain it all..but I'm just trying to help other boater's..as I have most of my
adult life aka...SAR, and good,solid marine advice....K&T
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| Quote: | Originally posted by captkw
HOLA,,hhummm...I don't know what you do for a living,,but I know what I do !!.... Marine Electrical and feul injection specialist.......we have
reg's,rule's and starndard's..like the ABYC and the CFR'S (fed) and soldering is only on very specil app's on Large vessel..I know your thinking your
doing the best,,but such is not the case..I see a few boat's in each season with the owner's self installed Elec. gear with solder and have,, had to
explain to WAY to many folk's as to the many reason's we do not solder on boat's !!! K&T
[Edited on 4-6-2012 by captkw]
[Edited on 4-6-2012 by captkw] |
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Bob and Susan
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here in mulege on the bay...
no phones
no water
no electricty
no tv
sat internet...
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bob and susan
HOLA,yes ,,I know the area rather well and the two island's N.NE of you ..nice place..if you got a good solar pannel w/batt's and reg.you could run a
vhf with no problem..and another problem I see all the time in baja is the install of elec.system's using house/car wire and connector's.....NoT
Good..think about it"your in a marine enviroment" and system's should be up to snuff..aka.multi strand,tinned wire for ouside stuff that get's hit
with wind and weatherproofed connection's....not copper reg. wire !!! if you want it to last and work well ....K&T
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