Documentary Video on the killing off of Native Americans by Europeans and Euro-Americans!
In case you think I only promote the California missions from the Spanish or Catholic point-of-view, I just watched a video hosted by Floyd Red Crow
Westerman called:
EXTERMINATE THEM! America's Destruction of Indian Nations, The California Story.
Basically, it said the killing of Indians in California began with the Spanish (incorrectly said 'arrived by sea' to found the mission at San Diego)
and continued with the Americans when they took over the state.
Here is the DVD front and back cover...
My neighbor was a co-producer and consultant in the making of the video. Knowing that I am working on the mission history, she shared the video with
me. I told her I would share with you all... If anyone wants to get the DVD, I will get the ordering details for you.
* EDITED to be more PC for the sensitive Nomads, who should still watch the movie...
Jesus christ. where in the hll does it ever say "white Man"? Never mind. it would never sink in your numb skull...
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Originally posted by David K
In case you think I only promote the California missions from the Spanish or Catholic point-of-view, I just watched a video hosted by Floyd Red Crow
Westerman called:
EXTERMINATE THEM! America's Destruction of Indian Nations, The California Story.
Basically, it said the killing of Indians in California began with the Spanish (incorrectly said 'arrived by sea' to found the mission at San Diego)
and continued with the Americans when they took over the state.
Here is the DVD front and back cover...
My neighbor was a co-producer and consultant in the making of the video. Knowing that I am working on the mission history, she shared the video with
me. I told her I would share with you all... If anyone wants to get the DVD, I will get the ordering details for you.
Originally posted by rts551
Jesus christ. where in the hll does it ever say "white Man"? Never mind. it would never sink in your numb skull...
Quote:
Originally posted by David K
In case you think I only promote the California missions from the Spanish or Catholic point-of-view, I just watched a video hosted by Floyd Red Crow
Westerman called:
EXTERMINATE THEM! America's Destruction of Indian Nations, The California Story.
Basically, it said the killing of Indians in California began with the Spanish (incorrectly said 'arrived by sea' to found the mission at San Diego)
and continued with the Americans when they took over the state.
Here is the DVD front and back cover...
My neighbor was a co-producer and consultant in the making of the video. Knowing that I am working on the mission history, she shared the video with
me. I told her I would share with you all... If anyone wants to get the DVD, I will get the ordering details for you.
Nor mine, 551. What in the world are you talking about?
roger hedgec-ck said yesterday that if you want to know what it will be like when obamacare is implemented just look at the Native Americans (the ones
without casinos) and their plight. from day one they were given the worst land, some sugar, corn, alcohol and other crap. to this day they are no
better off than 100 years ago.
guess which of us Americans have the lowest lifespan? the least access to healthcare? you'd be right if you follow my gist.
the Native Americans have had govt giving them everything for over a hundred years and their prospects for "change we can believe in" are the absolute
worst in this country!
Barry then you are as bad as he is. Th use of a phrase with "white man Killing off indians" in this context is incendiary. Why do you or David have
to use the term White in this context at aall....unless of course your a proponent of "white power"
Quote:
Originally posted by Barry A.
Quote:
Originally posted by rts551
Jesus christ. where in the hll does it ever say "white Man"? Never mind. it would never sink in your numb skull...
Quote:
Originally posted by David K
In case you think I only promote the California missions from the Spanish or Catholic point-of-view, I just watched a video hosted by Floyd Red Crow
Westerman called:
EXTERMINATE THEM! America's Destruction of Indian Nations, The California Story.
Basically, it said the killing of Indians in California began with the Spanish (incorrectly said 'arrived by sea' to found the mission at San Diego)
and continued with the Americans when they took over the state.
Here is the DVD front and back cover...
My neighbor was a co-producer and consultant in the making of the video. Knowing that I am working on the mission history, she shared the video with
me. I told her I would share with you all... If anyone wants to get the DVD, I will get the ordering details for you.
Nor mine, 551. What in the world are you talking about?
551 said, "Barry then you are as bad as he is. The use of a phrase with "white man Killing off indians" in this context is incendiary. Why do you or
David have to use the term White in this context at all....unless of course your a proponent of "white power" ".
-----and I say----because it was generally white folks that mostly were involved in the killing of the Indian's, both directly and indirectly, in CA
during the USA western movement, and to a lesser degree during the Spanish/Mexican Colonial times before.
As for "white power"???? What is that???
Nothing David said is "incendiary" to me------the truth is normally not "incendiary" unless you want to make it that way. Your choice.
Cut the BS. You used that title for your own self gratification.
The author had a lot more class than you, I read the back.
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Originally posted by David K
Ralph, seriously?
MY POST, I WATCHED IT... BUY IT YOURSELF and SEE/ HEAR... It is about the (now read this, it IS in on the cover) EXTERMINATION of the Indians... That
means to KILL THEM ALL... Read the back cover...
Gee wiz, there is NO pleasing you libs... I get blamed for saying the missionaries built the missions, and the Indians came to the missions for food
and salvation... now I get blamed when I say they (the white missionaries/ soldiers/ settlers) were killing them (what your side likes to believe is
all that came of Europeans in the Western Hemisphere.
You guys are really something... Just when I thought promoting YOUR SIDE would be welcomed! Well, shame on me!
I predict this being a 9 page thread....all I can say is what was done to the Native Americans was vile, disastrous to the culture, and still guides
the plight of many Native Americans....
Seems it's human nature to destroy other creeds, colors, religions, ethnicities....
Probably dates back to Homosapiens destroying Neanderthals.....That's just a theory though.
Originally posted by ateo
I predict this being a 9 page thread....all I can say is what was done to the Native Americans was vile, disastrous to the culture, and still guides
the plight of many Native Americans....
Seems it's human nature to destroy other creeds, colors, religions, ethnicities....
Probably dates back to Homosapiens destroying Neanderthals.....That's just a theory though.
Yes, I agree.
In the case of the American West it was a little more complicated than "destroy" tho, for destructions sake. The settlers had their reasons, tho they
were incredibly greedy & evil, for eliminating the indigenous peoples who "stood in their way". It was called Manifest Destiny, and woe the
people that tried to resist it, and most "whites" believed in it. Mankind (all mankind) has a history of doing this sort of thing, unfortunately,
which is what you are saying, I believe.
I still don't understand what RTs 555 (Ralph?) is upset about in this thread.
David - I felt your post The Blacks of Mexico was stated in taste where you provided a thread on Mexicans of African origin here on BN. But, your usage of, 'White Man' in
your title appears ignorant and diminishes the significance of the work by Westerman.
I suspect that the DVD is not a good one by your use of commentary in the title of this thread, so why not include a short, subjective review instead?
LOS ANGELES (AP) - Floyd Red Crow Westerman, an American Indian activist, actor and folk singer who appeared in "Dances with Wolves" and performed
with Willie Nelson and other musicians, has died at age 71.
Westerman, who lived in Marina del Rey, died Thursday morning at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center from complications of leukemia, said his son, Richard
Tall Bear Westerman.
The actor-musician appeared in dozens of movies and television shows, including recurring roles as Uncle Ray Firewalker on "Walker, Texas Ranger" and
George Littlefox on "Dharma & Greg."
A well respected musician, he worked with Nelson, Bonnie Raitt, Harry Belafonte, Jackson Browne and others.
"He always said he was a musician first and he just acted for the money," his son said Friday.
Westerman continued to act until only a few months ago, completing work on the forthcoming Kevin Costner film "Swing Vote" in September.
Perhaps his most memorable movie role was in Costner's 1990 Western epic, "Dances with Wolves." He played the Sioux leader Ten Bears, who befriends
Costner's character.
Westerman was also well known as an activist for environmental causes, the rights of American Indians and other indigenous people.
His debut album, released in 1970, was titled "Custer Died For Your Sins." Last year he released "A Tribute to Johnny Cash" to positive reviews.
In the 1990s, Westerman toured the world with Sting to raise money to preserve rainforests.
"He was really, really politically conscious," his son said. "He said the Iraq war is just another land grab, like they did with Oklahoma and the
Midwest in America. Back then it was about land and gold and now it was about oil."
Westerman was born on Aug. 17, 1936, on the Sisseton-Wahpeton Dakota Sioux reservation in South Dakota.
As a youngster, he left the reservation to attend a government boarding school some 80 miles away. In keeping with policies at the time, the school
frowned on his native culture.
"They cut his hair and they wouldn't allow him to speak the language," his son said. "He was a survivor of everything that the government has tried to
do to native Americans."
Westerman graduated from a reservation high school, spent two years in the Marines and went on to earn a degree in secondary education from Northern
State College in South Dakota.
He made his movie debut in 1989's "Renegades," playing the father of Lou Diamond Phillips' character. He was a shaman in Oliver Stone's 1991 movie
"The Doors."
In addition to his son, Westerman is survived by his wife, Rosie, and daughters Jennifer Westerman of Arizona, Chante Westerman of Washington state,
Nicky Jackson of Minneapolis and Chenoa Westerman of South Dakota.
Originally posted by woody with a view
roger hedgec-ck said yesterday that if you want to know what it will be like when obamacare is implemented just look at the Native Americans (the ones
without casinos) and their plight. from day one they were given the worst land, some sugar, corn, alcohol and other crap. to this day they are no
better off than 100 years ago.
guess which of us Americans have the lowest lifespan? the least access to healthcare? you'd be right if you follow my gist.
the Native Americans have had govt giving them everything for over a hundred years and their prospects for "change we can believe in" are the absolute
worst in this country!
Originally posted by woody with a view
roger hedgec-ck said yesterday that if you want to know what it will be like when obamacare is implemented just look at the Native Americans (the ones
without casinos) and their plight. from day one they were given the worst land, some sugar, corn, alcohol and other crap. to this day they are no
better off than 100 years ago.
guess which of us Americans have the lowest lifespan? the least access to healthcare? you'd be right if you follow my gist.
the Native Americans have had govt giving them everything for over a hundred years and their prospects for "change we can believe in" are the absolute
worst in this country!
just something to think about.....
Woody,
Hedgec-ck was doing his Rush sound a like. He is twisting an apples and oranges comparison to try and scare the puke out of you. That stretch was
one of the craziest I have heard lately --- I do believe he outdid Rush.
Originally posted by Ken Cooke
David - I felt your post The Blacks of Mexico was stated in taste where you provided a thread on Mexicans of African origin here on BN. But, your usage of, 'White Man' in
your title appears ignorant and diminishes the significance of the work by Westerman.
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