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woody with a view
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Outboard King
after our trip to BOLA a couple weeks ago it was time to take the boat motor in for service. see, when i started it the last day on the water, about 5
miles from the beach (way too far to swim) it wouldn't find the forward or reverse normally. after 2-3 tries it went into forward and we bee-lined for
the beach as Neptune was warning me. turns out we avoided a potential disaster.
i took it to a friend of a friend who buys/sells/services outboards in Santee. when opened the hood the tool pouch had wedged into the linkage for the
gear rod and lifted the catch off the rod. LUCKILY, the rod wedged into the housing and was forced down into forward gear. if i would have kept
fishing that day it would have ultimately left us stranded on the water.
long/short is $150 got the rod straightened, the tool pouch out of the housing, a new impeller, new water pump, new gear oil and the knowledge that
everything is working like it should.
if you need a good outboard mechanic for your baja boat and are in the San Diego area give Fernando a call 619.887.1532 or OutboardKing@aol.com
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I've known and trusted Fernando for many years!!! As honest a mechanic as there is for sure!
Both of Juans boats are powered with motors Fernando helped me score!!!
Glad your useing him Woody, next time ya see him tell him Stan/Surfdoc said hi!!!
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5 miles out....and 62 degree water....not fun at all...you would have been singing soprano by the time you got in....
Mexico!! Where two can live as cheaply as one.....but it costs twice as much.....
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woody with a view
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| Quote: | Originally posted by surfdoc
I've known and trusted Fernando for many years!!! As honest a mechanic as there is for sure!
Both of Juans boats are powered with motors Fernando helped me score!!!
Glad your useing him Woody, next time ya see him tell him Stan/Surfdoc said hi!!! |
he told me some stories about getting motors down there, and where they came from! you prolly know what i'm talking about.
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It's great when you're able to find a trustworthy mechanic for marine repairs. When I owned my Blackman I had another outfit work on my boat - BIG
MISTAKE...So, when you find a good one keep him, they're worth their weight in gold.
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Skipjack Joe
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There is too much at stake for me, Woody. When a motor starts to break down I just buy a new one. I've had too many experiences where the motor has
been repaired and in baja I find it hasn't been repaired. There goes half of my vacation. When you figure what your yearly vacation (not to mention
your life) is worth to you the extra dollars are worth it. That is one piece of equipment I fuss over more than anything else.
All the larger boats have backup motors, Woody, but our tin boats have nothing. I was looking into a 2hp outboard that only weighs 25lbs but it takes
up a lot of room.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
All the larger boats have backup motors, Woody, but our tin boats have nothing. I was looking into a 2hp outboard that only weighs 25lbs but it takes
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Well there's always oars.....
Although it was no fun at the time, my dad always liked to tell the story about the time as a teenager he and his dad were fishing off Dana Point in
the late 1930s and their outboard died. They had to row home to north Laguna; over 7 miles in a heavy tin boat. He claimed his dad made him do most
of the rowing. 
Truth generally lies in the coordination of antagonistic opinions
-Herbert Spencer
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Skipjack Joe
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FYI.
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Skipjack Joe
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How long would you survive in a boat without water? Looks like about 3 days.
120 F / 48.9 C
2 days
110 F / 43.3 C
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100 F / 37.8 C
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90 F / 32.2 C
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80 F / 26.7 C
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70 F / 21.1 C
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60 F / 15.6 C
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50 F / 10.0 C
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One thing about oars they are very reliable and have never failed me,a 12' 14' light weight tin boats is very easy to get moving and keep moving.
If your in a 12' you should not be to far in the first place and in a 14' you can atleast hold your own,I,ve seen to many down there without
oars
Ive spent many many hours providing my Father go power to his boats while trolling and we had a motor on the the boats he said they make to much noise and would scare the fish.
Last time I was out in a small boat 12' porta Bote we were at the south end of Carmen having a great time,on the way back I got to thinking
what would we do if the motor guit?
We could have made for the east side of Danzante and waited for company,thats one of the many things I have liked about the gulf,its small
boat heaven lots on little islands .
Well there you have it either have a new motor or a good set of oars and you will have it made.
Rob
Anyone can catch fish in a boat but only \"El Pescador Grande\" can get them from the beach.
I hope when my time comes the old man will let me bring my rod and the water will be warm and clear.
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That small gap between the north end of Danzante and Pt. Escondido is very doable with oars. It's probably less than 2 miles there.
BTW have you noticed that in all the pics posted nobody is ever wearing a life jacket? We don't either but I'm now thinking of making it a situational
thing - stop and put them on when the winds come up.
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Ya but when its 110 who wants to wear one of those things only put one on once,we were out in the channel at BOLA lookig for Dorado in my 14'when a
damn westerly came up and by the time we got near Smith they were 4' or 5' and we were very wet,never even tried to go around the Island I just
beached it and we spent the better part of the nite setting under a big rock.
Rob Didn't catch a fish.
Anyone can catch fish in a boat but only \"El Pescador Grande\" can get them from the beach.
I hope when my time comes the old man will let me bring my rod and the water will be warm and clear.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
BTW have you noticed that in all the pics posted nobody is ever wearing a life jacket? We don't either but I'm now thinking of making it a situational
thing - stop and put them on when the winds come up. |
What????????? We ALWAYS wore our life jackets when the wind came up, and usually even when it didn't. Man, you cannot tread water for very long,
normally. I learned when running rivers in Utah that life jackets should be just second nature to you, and eventually you don't even know you have
one on. I personally ALWAYS wear my life jacket, even when boating around on Shasta Lake, and I just ignor the laughs from others.
Barry
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| Quote: | Originally posted by baitcast
Ya but when its 110 who wants to wear one of those things only put one on once,we were out in the channel at BOLA lookig for Dorado in my 14'when a
damn westerly came up and by the time we got near Smith they were 4' or 5' and we were very wet,never even tried to go around the Island I just
beached it and we spent the better part of the nite setting under a big rock.
Rob Didn't catch a fish. |
I probably should have done that as well last time. But I was afraid of getting too cold at night. It would have scared Beto half to death as well.
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thanks for the lead on the outboard repair...I have a lower unit that sounds like its about to go.
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well i don't consider an impellor and a water pump and new oil and even a cleaned out fuel filter bowl to be reasons to ditch this motor..... to each
their own. i carry life jackets, oars, handheld vhf w/ spare battery pack, and a flare gun. just hope to never need them.
it's not like i'm going around back of smith or way outside! the west side of smith or the inner islands has alot of traffic, especially towards the
end of the day when everyone is coming in. in fact, i got a radio check at gringa from a guy in the south bay-loud and clear....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
well i don't consider an impellor and a water pump and new oil and even a cleaned out fuel filter bowl to be reasons to ditch this motor.....
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I would agree with you with everything except the water pump. And I would find out why the water pump is being replaced.
My experience has been that once an engine has been run real hot there are all sorts of things that become partly damaged but are not evident yet.
Your mechanic runs the engine in his drum and everything seems fine and passes inspection. But in baja it was different out there.
Even when I took my engine to mechanics in La Paz they couldn't reproduce the problem. It turned out to be the electric system that worked with the
coil.
But the point is that I had partly fried the motor and damaged that water pump. Once it got hot the internal wiring got damaged. The water that came
out of that vent hole would burn your hands but nobody thought that was a problem. The new motor runs lukewarm after trolling for hours. The old one
had been like that before the damage.
BTW, I may as well tell you how I think I fried it. It's recommended to flush the motor with freshwater often. I would flush the running motor at San
Lucas Cove with a hose that had virtually no pressure. Very little water was going through during the cleaning and it got hot, too hot. The water pump
got damaged. The new Honda can be flushed without running the engine so this can't happen.
My outboard mechanic was supposedly the best in the bay area. Honda certified and all that. As with auto mechanics, they often can't fix a problem
until they see it. The problem was intermittent. I guess he couldn't run it hard enough to simulate it.
Story about the breakdown:
http://www.peninsulaflyfishers.org/bajaAlex2004
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the motor is a 96 mariner 25hp. it prolly has 50 hours MAX. it was used as a Hollister Ranch vehicle for 2 years (5 trips), went to oahu for 3 years
(0 trips), came back to SD and used MAYBE 2-3 a year since.
it has been rinsed for 10 minutes after every trip, or after returning from baja. it threw a prop once, had the plugs changed once about 4 years ago.
THAT'S IT as far as service. the Outboard King said to change the water pump as preventive measure. impellor every 2 years with not a lot of usage
(applies here) and the oil just because. inside the lid it looks BRAND NEW. he told me to run it for 5 minutes every 2 weeks to keep the hoses and
gasket in good shape. both cylinders were within 5 psi, around 130 i think.
compared to alot of motors i see the pangueros use, i think this one is pristine. and if i'm wrong, well, at least i know how to swim which is more
than some people.....
[Edited on 5-24-2012 by woody with a view]
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Sounds like a great buy. 25HP? I'll bet you don't have any problems planning that 13' valco.
Read the linked story when you get a chance. Good times.
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no problems. it planes real fast and goes that way too! the boat is undersized for the motor but i've always heard bigger is better so no
complaints...
oh, the motor belongs to my best buddy. he takes my boat when he wants to and i take his motor when i want to. the best part is the motor stays
attached to my boat, at my house.....
i'll check the link in the AM.
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