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[*] posted on 5-29-2012 at 09:23 PM
San Felipe to Hwy 1 done by November?????


I was at the Baja Mar/Taco Factory in San Felipe on Monday and was speaking to the owner. We were discussing the new improvements in town. He mentioned he was driving to LaPaz this week. He said that the new road to Hwy 1 will be done by November when the new President takes over in Mexico. Now before I get a bunch of flaming, I told him no way. He said in Mexico if projects are not finished that started under the past president, it looks really bad.

Anyway, that was his story and he was sticking to it, I guess time will tell
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[*] posted on 5-29-2012 at 09:39 PM


go back into the archives and see how many super duper platnum elite senior gold plated nomads swore up and down the road to gonzaga would never be finished in their lifetime. just sayin.......:O
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[*] posted on 5-29-2012 at 11:28 PM


Can you say 'Escalera Nautica'? Same concept....



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[*] posted on 5-30-2012 at 07:07 AM


Im just the piano player:P
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[*] posted on 5-30-2012 at 07:22 AM


I have heard that same logic used for completion of the highway from San Ignacio to San Juanico. They have been paving out to Laguna San Ignacio probably since Caulderon took office, and they only have about 20km completed. Maybe we should start a poll on which highway gets completed first?
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[*] posted on 5-30-2012 at 08:29 AM


I posted this, just over a week ago:


Posted by TW on 8-31-2007:

This was on the San Felipe web site.

New federal highway projects will benefit San Felipe

A list of the new federal priorities for highway construction has been released and there is significant news for the San Felipe region. The first good news is that the road from Puertecitos to Laguna Chapala is to be funded in 2008 and work complete in 2010. This continuation of the two lane road south from San Felipe will be 7 meters wide and have a total length of 110 km. Total estimated cost will be 600 million pesos (approx. $60 million dollars). This will mean that it will be possible to drive from San Felipe and connect up with the main peninsular highway (Route 1) south to La Paz and Los Cabos. We will no longer be the end of the road!
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Here are the dates and distances:

NOV. 2006: Paved to 3 miles north of Puertecitos.
FEB. 2007: Paved to Puertecitos, except for 1.8 mile section.
SEPT. 2008: Paved to 2 miles south of Puertecitos.
JAN. 2009: Paved to 4 miles south of Puertecitos. (2 mi., in 3 mos.)
SEPT. 2009: Paved to 10 miles south of Puertecitos. (6 mi., in 9 mos.)
JULY 2010: Paved 19 miles south of Puertecitos. (9 mi., in 10 mos.)
JULY 2011: Paved 24 miles south of Puertecitos. (5 mi., in 12 mos.)
JAN. 2012: Paved 33 miles south of Puertecitos. (9 mi., in 6 mos.)

So far, it has been about 6 miles a year of progress.

PUERTECITOS TO GONZAGA (Pemex): 45 miles (work began in '08, 13 miles to go Jan. '12)
GONZAGA TO CHAPALA (Hwy. 1): 35 miles

There should be a new section opening soon?

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[*] posted on 5-30-2012 at 10:01 AM


Ah yes, I remember when the sign at Camalu said
"Pavamiento terminado"
Never thought we would see the potholes of San Quintin paved, let alone all the way to Santa Rosallia...
It is spelled "Progress"
but it does not mean we have to like it....
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[*] posted on 6-4-2012 at 12:39 AM


Well it won't be done by then (and yes, I have been a nay-sayer)...to finish the rest of the road in the middle of summer with 100+ temps is dreaming but they certainly have done an amazing job! But even when they do finish it is a bit of a waste in that the road from San Felipe to Puertecitos will need to be completely re-done as well. If a lot of 18 wheelers start to use it heading south it will be ripped up in no time.

I agree with the idea it may be progress but that doesn't mean we have to like it! The thought of drinks at Alphosina's or hanging out at Papa Fernandez with big rigs air braking in the distance just.........doesn't seem right.
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[*] posted on 6-4-2012 at 09:11 AM


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Well it won't be done by then (and yes, I have been a nay-sayer)...to finish the rest of the road in the middle of summer with 100+ temps is dreaming but they certainly have done an amazing job! But even when they do finish it is a bit of a waste in that the road from San Felipe to Puertecitos will need to be completely re-done as well. If a lot of 18 wheelers start to use it heading south it will be ripped up in no time.

I agree with the idea it may be progress but that doesn't mean we have to like it! The thought of drinks at Alphosina's or hanging out at Papa Fernandez with big rigs air braking in the distance just.........doesn't seem right.


Yes, things will change at Gonzaga Bay...

The new highway between San Felipe and Puertecitos will be inland, as the old road was (through or near the sulfur mine)... It also will bypass San Felipe town, so no cross town stops and speed bumps... this was reported here sometime back.

Of course, that may be years away... and the truckers may not wait for it!




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[*] posted on 6-4-2012 at 09:20 AM


david do you have a map showing the old puertecitos road?
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[*] posted on 6-4-2012 at 10:12 PM


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Originally posted by David K
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Originally posted by redhilltown
Well it won't be done by then (and yes, I have been a nay-sayer)...to finish the rest of the road in the middle of summer with 100+ temps is dreaming but they certainly have done an amazing job! But even when they do finish it is a bit of a waste in that the road from San Felipe to Puertecitos will need to be completely re-done as well. If a lot of 18 wheelers start to use it heading south it will be ripped up in no time.

I agree with the idea it may be progress but that doesn't mean we have to like it! The thought of drinks at Alphosina's or hanging out at Papa Fernandez with big rigs air braking in the distance just.........doesn't seem right.


Yes, things will change at Gonzaga Bay...

The new highway between San Felipe and Puertecitos will be inland, as the old road was (through or near the sulfur mine)... It also will bypass San Felipe town, so no cross town stops and speed bumps... this was reported here sometime back.

Of course, that may be years away... and the truckers may not wait for it!



DK, are you saying with certainty something that will happen in Mexico....in the FUTURE???? ;D ;D Haven't we all learned our lessons on this???
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[*] posted on 6-5-2012 at 08:31 AM


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david do you have a map showing the old puertecitos road?


Starting with Howard Gulick's (Lower California Guidebook) and the old Auto Club map (dots were places we spent the night in the 1960's)

1962:



1963:



Now the 'newer' AAA map...

1975:




My 1980 map:



1989 AAA:



2000 AAA:



2007 AAA:





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[*] posted on 6-5-2012 at 09:39 AM


thanks david. on the second map (with the red dots) just south of puertecitos the map shows the expected catch. what is a baya?
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[*] posted on 6-5-2012 at 10:15 AM


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thanks david. on the second map (with the red dots) just south of puertecitos the map shows the expected catch. what is a baya?


Sorry, willardguy, I know you addressed this question to David K, so perhaps I shouldn't be jumping in, but I believe the 'baya' is the Mexican name for the gulf grouper. It's a fairly common grouper that one can catch from shore (rocks?), and we landed a fair number of them off Pta Bufeo.

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Edited for redundancy. :)

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[*] posted on 6-5-2012 at 10:22 AM


gracias allen!
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[*] posted on 6-5-2012 at 12:12 PM


Thanks Bufeo!



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[*] posted on 6-5-2012 at 04:53 PM
Was that a serious question?


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david do you have a map showing the old puertecitos road?


Asking David if he has maps is like asking Dennis if he knows the way to Sharkeys!!!

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[*] posted on 6-5-2012 at 05:01 PM


I know, its just a formality.:rolleyes:
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[*] posted on 6-5-2012 at 05:04 PM


sorry, just could not resist

(and both D and D are pals.... well, sometimes)
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[*] posted on 6-5-2012 at 05:07 PM


but seems were back to it... from san felipe do you go out by the airport to find the north end of this road? and is this the score track?
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