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Mirrorless Cameras?
For all of you Baja photographers, I have a question. What do know about the relatively new mirror less cameras?
I am happy with my Cannon outfit, but sometimes a smaller, lighter camera would be nice and I have been looking at the possibility of a mirror less
camera --- from what I read, they are far superior to a point and shoot???
Thanks
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Diane
I don't know much about them but from what I have read they are simply viewfinder cameras with interchangeable lenses. For me the lack of TTL viewing
would be a big drawback for "macro" subjects, where precise composition is mandatory, but ok for wide angle stuff like landscapes, portraits, etc
where parallax is not a big problem.
carpe diem!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Bondy
Diane
I don't know much about them but from what I have read they are simply viewfinder cameras with interchangeable lenses. For me the lack of TTL viewing
would be a big drawback for "macro" subjects, where precise composition is mandatory, but ok for wide angle stuff like landscapes, portraits, etc
where parallax is not a big problem. |
I had not read anything about that --- interesting. Thinking about wanting a small light weight camera for some uses, I liked the idea of the large
sensors.
THANKS
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So being a photographer from a young age and having been a camera junkie since I had enough money to buy cameras and lenses, I have an opinion on
everything, but definetly camera shtuffff
First and primarily I look at a camera as a way to take a photo. That being said, I kind of cringe at a telephone with a camera, but I have used my
cell phone for some photos that I would rather have poorly than not at all.
Hoever the technology behind mirrorless cameras bring a, kinda, new idea.
Mirorless cameras allow the camera to be smaller. It allows a direct capture of lights and shadows from the lens directly.
Without the "slap" of the mirror, the camera will take a much more still photo.
However, bottomline, it is a gimmick and another way to market cameras that are small and handy.
If it fits your needs and you like it, buy it. If you want to be a serious photographer but don't want a DSLR, then look at the Canon G series camera
and the high end Nikon point and shoot. Look for optical zooming, not a digital zoom.
Learn to understand the combinations of ISO/Apperature/Shutter and how it makes a difference
Learn Depth of Field and how it changes with the apperature of the camera.
Shoot in Auto when the camera is new and then challenge your self on how to take a photo.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CortezBlue
So being a photographer from a young age and having been a camera junkie since I had enough money to buy cameras and lenses, I have an opinion on
everything, but definetly camera shtuffff
First and primarily I look at a camera as a way to take a photo. That being said, I kind of cringe at a telephone with a camera, but I have used my
cell phone for some photos that I would rather have poorly than not at all.
Hoever the technology behind mirrorless cameras bring a, kinda, new idea.
Mirorless cameras allow the camera to be smaller. It allows a direct capture of lights and shadows from the lens directly.
Without the "slap" of the mirror, the camera will take a much more still photo.
However, bottomline, it is a gimmick and another way to market cameras that are small and handy.
If it fits your needs and you like it, buy it. If you want to be a serious photographer but don't want a DSLR, then look at the Canon G series camera
and the high end Nikon point and shoot. Look for optical zooming, not a digital zoom.
Learn to understand the combinations of ISO/Apperature/Shutter and how it makes a difference
Learn Depth of Field and how it changes with the apperature of the camera.
Shoot in Auto when the camera is new and then challenge your self on how to take a photo. |
Thanks for all the info. I really like my Canon 40D --- sometimes it is just bulkier than I want to carry in some situations. I definitely am not
looking to replace it.
Mirrorless just sounded like a possible good idea. I know that when I remember and am using a tripod, I open the mirror to avoid that slap.
I will look also at the Canon G 2 series. Thanks
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Bondy
Diane
I don't know much about them but from what I have read they are simply viewfinder cameras with interchangeable lenses. For me the lack of TTL viewing
would be a big drawback for "macro" subjects, where precise composition is mandatory, but ok for wide angle stuff like landscapes, portraits, etc
where parallax is not a big problem. |
Don't all these cameras have a big bright LCD screen? Why would parallax be and issue if peviewing the actual digital photo on the screen? just
curious
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Diana,
I recommend you consider this point and shoot for your research.
Lumix DMC-LX5
http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Panasonic_Lumix_DMC_LX5/ve...
Ken
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Stickers
Don't all these cameras have a big bright LCD screen? Why would parallax be and issue if peviewing the actual digital photo on the screen? just
curious |
Stickers,
Focusing and even composition can be challenging with the LCD screens in bright light.
Ken
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Thanks and I will do so
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I have a Canon Powershot SX230 and love it (upgraded from an older PowerShot) , carry it around with me all times in a pouch on my belt. It is great
to have a 14x optical zoom with you and when you need to go to 56x zoom with digital zoom. Use it more often than my binoculars to figure out what's
on the horizon. Am tempted to upgrade to the new SX260 with a 20x optical zoom. If that is not enough look at the PowerShot SX40 or get the older
PowerShot SX20. There is a good review at
http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Canon_PowerShot_SX40_HS/
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Hi Diana, As you know by now I have the Nikon P510. I have put the D60 on the shelf. For sure the optics aren't in the same class but pretty good
considering the price. It's is slower to focus and turn on but the convenience of not hauling lenses around make it a good camera with a 42x zoom
(1000mm). I'm really happy with it. I never was in your class or others here so the higher resolution of a bigger camera is not as much an issue for
me. Cnet has a review on it and youtube some videos.
http://reviews.cnet.com/digital-cameras/nikon-coolpix-p510-b...
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Johannes and Russ----thanks, I will keep those in mind and I will check out those links! THANKS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Bondy
Diane
I don't know much about them but from what I have read they are simply viewfinder cameras with interchangeable lenses. For me the lack of TTL viewing
would be a big drawback for "macro" subjects, where precise composition is mandatory, but ok for wide angle stuff like landscapes, portraits, etc
where parallax is not a big problem. |
Don't all these cameras have a big bright LCD screen? Why would parallax be and issue if peviewing the actual digital photo on the screen? just
curious |
Stickers to my knowledge the image on the screen is not what you see through the lens (TTL) so parallax would be a problem in composing very close
subjects.
carpe diem!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
For all of you Baja photographers, I have a question. What do know about the relatively new mirror less cameras?
I am happy with my Cannon outfit, but sometimes a smaller, lighter camera would be nice and I have been looking at the possibility of a mirror less
camera --- from what I read, they are far superior to a point and shoot???
Thanks
[Edited on 7-6-2012 by DianaT] |
the micro 4/3 cameras are really nice. i just bought an olympus omd em5 (it seems to be popular, 1 month back order at all the usual online dealers).
if it works as well as the hype suggests, going to sell my canon slr and lenses. the bulk of canon slr and lenses really got to be a drag for hiking
and traveling. these days it's all got to fit in an airplane carry-on and slr gathers dust only getting used on car trips that don't involve hiking.
the olympus has a ttl electronic viewfinder so you can do macro with confidence.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
For all of you Baja photographers, I have a question. What do know about the relatively new mirror less cameras?
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Diana,
mirror less cameras are not new at all - before the invention of SLR cameras in 1949 cameras had no mirror
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-lens_reflex_camera
though SLR cameras were a big step forward in photography viewfinder cameras have become much better over time
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viewfinder
as good as SLR cameras are - they are big and bulky
add extra lenses and taking pictures becomes a physical excercise - and why would you want to schlepp around a brick to just snap some family pictures
or capture memorable moments of your vacation
so, viewfinder cameras have been rediscovered as an alternative to big SLR's
I have recently switched after decades with Nikon and Leica to a small Fujifilm X-Pro which produces stunning images.
I happily gave up my $10,000 Leica M9 for an absolutely delightful relationship with Fuji X-Pro (an up version of the X100 described below):
http://www.kenrockwell.com/fuji/x100/compared.htm
sample images:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/trips/2011-06-san-diego/index.htm
here is a comparison of good SLR with 4 good viewfinders (the last 4):
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/comparisons/2012-04-dslrs.ht...
Harald Pietschmann
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
For all of you Baja photographers, I have a question. What do know about the relatively new mirror less cameras?
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mirror less cameras are not new at all - before the invention of SLR cameras in 1949 cameras had no mirror
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-lens_reflex_camera
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the fuji camera you cited has a viewfinder that does not show TTL image. i suspect that diana was asking about mirror-less cameras with electronic
through-the-lens viewfinders.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
the fuji camera you cited has a viewfinder that does not show TTL image. i suspect that diana was asking about mirror-less cameras with electronic
through-the-lens viewfinders. |
Both, Fujifilm X100 and X-Pro, show TTL images (in the viewfinder and on the rear display) - an optical viewfinder is also available
here is a helpful guide to select the camera you need/want:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/recommended-cameras.htm
Harald Pietschmann
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Goat---please let me know what you think about your new camera after using it for a while --- thanks, I will check that one out. At this point, I am
not sure for what I am looking --- I am still in the questioning and research stage.
4x4abc --- Many thanks for all the information and I will definitely look at those links.
Yes, there are times I just don't want to lug around the equipment I have. I can't imagine getting rid of it at this point because I use it, but who
knows.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
Goat---please let me know what you think about your new camera after using it for a while --- thanks, I will check that one out. At this point, I am
not sure for what I am looking --- I am still in the questioning and research stage.
4x4abc --- Many thanks for all the information and I will definitely look at those links.
Yes, there are times I just don't want to lug around the equipment I have. I can't imagine getting rid of it at this point because I use it, but who
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Ypu can give it to me. Kevin says muchas gracias
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
Ypu can give it to me. Kevin says muchas gracias |
You are becoming an internet beggar. First you just want information, and now you want the goods. 
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