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Mariz
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Record Roosterfish!
A new line class record from the East Cape!
http://e-expeditions.com/new-roosterfish-record/
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woody with a view
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WOW! 
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capt. mike
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that sure is a lot of inedible pez.
formerly Ordained in Rev. Ewing\'s Church by Mail - busted on tax fraud.......
Now joined L. Ron Hoover\'s church of Appliantology
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Ken Bondy
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Agree mike. Sad to see a beautiful old animal like that killed just to be thrown in a dumpster. Sportsmen, give me a few seconds while I put on my
flame-retardant suit 
carpe diem!
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woody with a view
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c'mon guys, a fish like that is a trophy. it isn't tuna, but i sure would take a bite! BTW, it has reproduced numerous times already sending it's big
DNA out into the water.
AND, it's just one fish in the ocean......
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classicbajabronco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Bondy
Agree mike. Sad to see a beautiful old animal like that killed just to be thrown in a dumpster. Sportsmen, give me a few seconds while I put on my
flame-retardant suit |
Some of these big fish have heart attacks in the fight, especially a big fish taken on light tackle such as this case. If this was taken off the
beach, very good chance for along fight, not all fish can be successfully released especially a extremely tired fish like this one would have been.
I had a 75lb rooster come in dead on 20lb a few yrs back, it did not go to the dumpster, nor will this fish more than likely. The locals of the
eastcape love roosters, grilled, boiled or made into machaca. My fish fed 10 people machaca wise for a month!
Just saying
[Edited on 7-11-2012 by classicbajabronco]
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BajaRat
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| Quote: | Originally posted by classicbajabronco
| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Bondy
Agree mike. Sad to see a beautiful old animal like that killed just to be thrown in a dumpster. Sportsmen, give me a few seconds while I put on my
flame-retardant suit |
Some of these big fish have heart attacks in the fight, especially a big fish taken on light tackle such as this case. If this was taken off the
beach, very good chance for along fight, not all fish can be successfully released especially a extremely tired fish like this one would have been.
I had a 75lb rooster come in dead on 20lb a few yrs back, it did not go to the dumpster, nor will this fish more than likely. The locals of the
eastcape love roosters, grilled, boiled or made into machaca. My fish fed 10 people machaca wise for a month!
[Edited on 7-11-2012 by classicbajabronco] |
Agreed, VIVA Baja!
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Ken Bondy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by classicbajabronco
| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Bondy
Agree mike. Sad to see a beautiful old animal like that killed just to be thrown in a dumpster. Sportsmen, give me a few seconds while I put on my
flame-retardant suit |
Some of these big fish have heart attacks in the fight, especially a big fish taken on light tackle such as this case. If this was taken off the
beach, very good chance for along fight, not all fish can be successfully released especially a extremely tired fish like this one would have been.
I had a 75lb rooster come in dead on 20lb a few yrs back, it did not go to the dumpster, nor will this fish more than likely. The locals of the
eastcape love roosters, grilled, boiled or made into machaca. My fish fed 10 people machaca wise for a month!
Just saying
[Edited on 7-11-2012 by classicbajabronco] |
I emphatically disagree with the "eastcape locals love them" story. Nice thought, but not true. I have had many discussions with "eastcape" locals
and with Mexican management at Punta Pescadero, Las Arenas (when it was operating), Punta Colorada, Rancho Buena Vista, Rancho Leonero about the
desirability of pez gallo as a food fish, and no-one ever said anything about the locals "loving" them. Obviously they will eat them when nothing
else is available, (unlikely in this area rich with truly good food fish), but "loving them" is a huge stretch.
I am not proud to say this, but I have caught many roosterfish in my 20 years and 100+ flying trips to Baja. Most were released but some were not.
But none of them were dead when they hit the beach or the boat.
carpe diem!
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bigmike58
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Geez, here we go again.... You can't even keep a record fish without someone spouting BS... Ken, believe what you want (and I have no doubt you will)
but hungry locals eat roosterfish and your assumption that it is going in the garbage is just that. Congrats on you getting to fish for 20 years and
for admonishing those that want to do what you have had the privledge to have already done.
Congrats to Jack Kautz on the catch of a lifetime... flame on.
pic added
[Edited on 7-11-2012 by bigmike58]
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Ken Bondy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bigmike58
Geez, here we go again.... You can't even keep a record fish without someone spouting BS... Ken, believe what you want (and I have no doubt you will)
but hungry locals eat roosterfish and your assumption that it is going in the garbage is just that. Congrats on you getting to fish for 20 years and
for admonishing those that want to do what you have had the privledge to have already done.
Congrats to Jack Kautz on the catch of a lifetime... flame on. |
bigmike read my posts more carefully. I am not admonishing anyone for fishing. I am just expressing my opinion (I think I get to do that, right?)
that seeing a magnificent old animal like that hanging dead by its tail for no significant benefit other than pumping up the ego of the angler, is,
well, sad.
carpe diem!
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classicbajabronco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Bondy
I am not proud to say this, but I have caught many roosterfish in my 20 years and 100+ flying trips to Baja. Most were released but some were not.
But none of them were dead when they hit the beach or the boat. |
...I've been driving and riding in automobiles for about 40 yrs and 1000's of trips and have never been in an car accident....does that mean
automobile accidents don't happen either. 
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Ken Bondy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by classicbajabronco
| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Bondy
I am not proud to say this, but I have caught many roosterfish in my 20 years and 100+ flying trips to Baja. Most were released but some were not.
But none of them were dead when they hit the beach or the boat. |
...I've been driving and riding in automobiles for about 40 yrs and 1000's of trips and have never been in an car accident....does that mean
automobile accidents don't happen either. |
Of course it doesn't classic...but it does strongly suggest that roosterfish heart attacks and car accidents are the exceptions, not the norms.
carpe diem!
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and that big old rooster lived a long life. why should it not want to go out putting a huge smile on some random guys face?
reality is in the eye of the beer holder. your version is just as valid, but no more than anyone else's.
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Someone here deserves an award today.... Fill in your name and today's date if you feel like you've earned it.
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A nice fish whose time had come. We all gotta go sometime. 
I yam what I yam and that\'s all what I yam.
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Skipjack Joe
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As I've stated many times before a good fisherman doesn't need a trophy. Trophy hunters are mentally immature men proving their own virility.
And feeding the Mexicans with roosterfish is usually what's done when you don't know what to do with it. The Mexicans eat it so as not to waste the
meat.
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Ken Bondy
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bigmike I assume the Certificate is for me. You perhaps need to know a few more things before you tag me as a hypocrite. Yes, I fished, but I
haven't fished for over twenty years. I simply decided that I couldn't kill anything any more. Part of that change I'm sure came when I started
diving. I have seen pez gallo a few times underwater and they are spectacular. I think maybe if you saw one underwater with their great speed and
agility, dorsal rays flicking, colors changing, then maybe it would change your mind about killing one. Yes I changed my mind about fishing, but that
was 20+ years ago and I have been completely consistent since then. Am I still a hypocrite or do you condemn anyone who changes their mind?
carpe diem!
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Condemn? maybe. I have a hard time listening to anyone that appears to have gone from one extreme to another and then preachs thier self righteousness
on others.
Congrats again to Jack and his catch of a lifetime,
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Com'on Joe,
The guy doesn't look like he was out "hunting" a trophy. Just a guy fishing from shore with 20# line who hooked up bigtime. Can't blame him a bit
for the smile, and the photo.
I yam what I yam and that\'s all what I yam.
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Skipjack Joe
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To me he looks like a muscle bound youngster that has some growing up to do.
Fishing ethics have changed over the years. A hanging dead corpse like this is not that attractive to sportsmen any longer.
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