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BROWNING
HOLA, WHAT'S THE MOTOR IN/ON HER??IF ANY!! I HAD ONE IN THE BACK OF MY BOATYARD FOR MANY YEARS...... K&T
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Nemo55
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The Trimaran
At this point i dont know,,,it's some kind of outboard, probably 25 horse.
I bought her, but cant get to her.
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Back in my days of delivering sail boats (late 80's) the fees used to be about a Dollar a mile or whatever one could negotiate near that range.
Now days, the delivery would be about $6,000, plus fees for foreign delivery, assuming the US Coast Guard does not stop you before you get to Baja.
Personally, I think the delivery/vacation would be a good deal, but not the repairs/maintenance/etc.
Taking a closer look at the tri...it looks like a home-built boat.
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they are plywood with glass overlay and are problem matic !! That said,, some have been built very well and I have also seen some that
were....umm...not safe to have in the parking lot..LOL piver,browns and other tri's of that era were usally lacking in a lot of area's as a general
statement!! K&T
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More photos of a similar boat:
http://markblackburn.org/Tri/Tri.htm
"The Searunner Trimarans are home-built, wooden tri-hull sailboats designed by Jim Brown and John Marples intended for circumnavigation. Searunner
Trimarans were designed in five hull sizes: 25, 31, 34, 37 and 40 feet."
Interesting note from the link above...........
"One interesting thing about this boat-- it is de-mountable and could be delivered over land."
[Edited on 8-23-2012 by bajaguy]
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captkw
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HEY,,THAT DODGER LOOKS LIKE A VOLKSWAGON WINDSHEILD!!!! LIKE I SAID IN MY LAST POST SOME WERE BUILT A LITTLE ON THE SHY SIDE !! K&T PS..I HAVE NEVER ,EVER HEARD OF SOMEONE LEAVING A PWR CAT FOR A TRI/SAIL...MUST
OF LOST HIS MONEY SOMEWHERE !!!
[Edited on 8-23-2012 by captkw]
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Nemo55
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I think this one being built in 1979 has answered the issue of Longevity.
But she's an old girl and bound to have her little issues.
As to the Maintenance issue, giving up ones Boat for another's lengthy holiday should have some transfer of responsibility to maintain the craft
no????
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Check out Larryc's post on help needed in Punta Cono. Looks like layed up plywood. Seems like a scetchey start in a boat like that. But if they
haven't pounded the bottom, who knows. They may have made it anywhere they wanted.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by captkw
HEY,,THAT DODGER LOOKS LIKE A VOLKSWAGON WINDSHEILD!!!! LIKE I SAID IN MY LAST POST SOME WERE BUILT A LITTLE ON THE SHY SIDE !! K&T PS..I HAVE NEVER ,EVER HEARD OF SOMEONE LEAVING A PWR CAT FOR A TRI/SAIL...MUST
OF LOST HIS MONEY SOMEWHERE !!!
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Your criticism of this boat is not cool. I didn't read of his need for critiques of his boat, just someone to deliver it. Ease up on him.
My 2 cents.
Ken
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| Quote: | Originally posted by brewer
Check out Larryc's post on help needed in Punta Cono. Looks like layed up plywood. |
Is that the same one?
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=61752
[Edited on 8-23-2012 by BajaNomad]
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and my 2 cents, these australian trimarans are legendary cruisers!
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KEN
HOLA,,SORRY... ALL MY COMMENTS ARE/WERE NOT TO DEGRADE OR ANYTHING OTHERWISE THIS LINE OF VESSEL !! AND AT THE SAME TIME..REREAD MY POST ON THIS ...
I AS A BOAT EXPERT !! YES, THAT WHAT I DO FOR LIVING..I NEVER PUT DOWN OR STATED ANY BAD ABOUT THIS TRI !! I HAVE NEVER SEEN HER OR INSPECTED THIS
VESSEL !! MOST HOME MADE BOATS/VESSEL'S ARE NOT UP TO CFR 33 OR ABYC STANDARDS.....K&T
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Interesting post. As you now are undoubtedly aware, a foreigner buying a US documented vessel must "un-document" the vessel, because documented
vessels cannot be owned by non-US citizens.
Sounds like you still might have paperwork issues to resolve. Your post brings to mind several obvious questions which must have interesting answers.
You are obviously hoping to live a dream—as are many who are drawn to Baja:
Just curious, but why are you "not capable" of delivering your own boat? Presumably you bought a boat you felt you could handle.
Why haven't you ever gone to see the vessel? Doesn't really make any sense. A visa issue is mentioned?? Ensenada by land to at least see and inspect
the boat is a very easy trip.
Your posts here say she is a 1979, and your "for sale" posts elsewhere for the vessel say 1975. Minor detail, but still different.
Is the vessel insured? Liability insurance? Deliveries are expensive and time consuming and come with a huge responsibility. When was the last time
the vessel had a survey? How do you know the seaworthiness and condition of the rigging, etc. of this aging vessel?
Anyone interested will want answers to these questions and more.
Best of luck and I hope your dream comes true.
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HOLA ,MARLA
INDEED GOOD Q'S
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Nemo55
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My problems Getting to my boat.
First, I am assuming you are` an American and have no idea how badly your borders are screwed up, i am a long time resident of Canada,41 years, still
a British Citizen.
I attempted to get to my Boat from My Home In British Columbia but it seems i needed two different kinds of Visas,,and had to prove i had a Minimum
required Income coming in every month to enable me to visit the U.S..
They also wanted my Children's Birth Certificates, and Residential History in Canada.
To do all this required first that i begin an online application, and then down load a Receipt with a Bar Code after Paying Fees (non Refundable)and
then await an interview at my Local American Embassy, almost three months at last count.
Then after bringing what amounts to my life history to the Embassy i would be scrutinized, and depending on what my income level was, and My Health, i
MAY have been issued the Necessary Visa's.
Oh yeah,,,and to cap it all off,,i was informed that the Border Guards can ignore the Visa's issued by The Embassy after all of this, and refuse entry
just based on the Guards Mood at that particular time.
SADLY  It seemed to me that it might be better to never have to Visit the United
States again until this Lunacy has ended and one day Saner Calmer heads have prevailed.
Until such a time i will retain my pride and my freedom and choose Mexico instead.
So,,,this is why i did not arrive at my boat Moored in San Rafael Harbor.
P.S. i am not alone in this nightmare,many others are experiencing this madness as well.
Not such an easy trip like you think.
As to my sailing experience, i was planning on taking all of the required courses in San Francisco while getting my boat provisioned. so short answer,
i am not experienced enough to attempt such a voyage as of yet.
Yes i made an error in the year of my Boat she is a 1975 Sea Runner.
As to the condition of this vessel, i have no first hand knowledge, i trust the Previous owner when he tells me that aside from some minor issues, she
is completely sea worthy.
and her Sails and Rigging are all in Good shape.
And Finally as to Insurance, she is uninsured at the moment, and as far as allowing someone else to skipper her, NOTHING in this life is completely
free,,do you expect me to pay for someones Holiday (what i am offering) and Pay for the Insurance for the trip also??
There is not a Sane person afloat who would do such a thing.
In exchange for the use of my Vessel (no strings) i would expect the boat to be maintained and upkept, and insurance would be up to whoever skippered
her.
(car rental agencies expect you to buy your own insurance, why is this any different?)
As to any other inquiries, i am an open book.
Thank you for the good wishes...
| Quote: | Originally posted by Marla Daily
Interesting post. As you now are undoubtedly aware, a foreigner buying a US documented vessel must "un-document" the vessel, because documented
vessels cannot be owned by non-US citizens.
Sounds like you still might have paperwork issues to resolve. Your post brings to mind several obvious questions which must have interesting answers.
You are obviously hoping to live a dream—as are many who are drawn to Baja:
Just curious, but why are you "not capable" of delivering your own boat? Presumably you bought a boat you felt you could handle.
Why haven't you ever gone to see the vessel? Doesn't really make any sense. A visa issue is mentioned?? Ensenada by land to at least see and inspect
the boat is a very easy trip.
Your posts here say she is a 1979, and your "for sale" posts elsewhere for the vessel say 1975. Minor detail, but still different.
Is the vessel insured? Liability insurance? Deliveries are expensive and time consuming and come with a huge responsibility. When was the last time
the vessel had a survey? How do you know the seaworthiness and condition of the rigging, etc. of this aging vessel?
Anyone interested will want answers to these questions and more.
Best of luck and I hope your dream comes true. |
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Nemo55
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Errrr,,,you do know that in my corner of the world P.O.S.
Stands for Piece of chit ???? Is that your intended usage for my Boat ????
| Quote: | Originally posted by captkw
TALK IS CHEAP.........YOU MIGHT LIKE TO DELIVER THIS P.O.S. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,IT'S DOWN HILL??? |
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Nemo55
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I think all Sea Runners where home built.
As far as my research goes, they are renowned for their stability and long life,which is what drew me to this one to begin with.
I had a Cal 28 before her.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Udo
Back in my days of delivering sail boats (late 80's) the fees used to be about a Dollar a mile or whatever one could negotiate near that range.
Now days, the delivery would be about $6,000, plus fees for foreign delivery, assuming the US Coast Guard does not stop you before you get to Baja.
Personally, I think the delivery/vacation would be a good deal, but not the repairs/maintenance/etc.
Taking a closer look at the tri...it looks like a home-built boat. |
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Nemo55, hopefully you will get a reply from someone who might actually be interested in helping you get your boat to where you are, unfortunately the
Nomads forun isn't looking like that place. There are probably better places to look for what you need.....I wish I could help....dt
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Nemo55
As to the condition of this vessel, i have no first hand knowledge, i trust the Previous owner when he tells me that aside from some minor issues, she
is completely sea worthy.
and her Sails and Rigging are all in Good shape.
And Finally as to Insurance, she is uninsured at the moment, and as far as allowing someone else to skipper her, NOTHING in this life is completely
free,,do you expect me to pay for someones Holiday (what i am offering) and Pay for the Insurance for the trip also??
There is not a Sane person afloat who would do such a thing.
In exchange for the use of my Vessel (no strings) i would expect the boat to be maintained and upkept, and insurance would be up to whoever skippered
her.
(car rental agencies expect you to buy your own insurance, why is this any different?)
| Quote: | Originally posted by Marla Daily
Interesting post. As you now are undoubtedly aware, a foreigner buying a US documented vessel must "un-document" the vessel, because documented
vessels cannot be owned by non-US citizens.
Sounds like you still might have paperwork issues to resolve. Your post brings to mind several obvious questions which must have interesting answers.
You are obviously hoping to live a dream—as are many who are drawn to Baja:
Just curious, but why are you "not capable" of delivering your own boat? Presumably you bought a boat you felt you could handle.
Why haven't you ever gone to see the vessel? Doesn't really make any sense. A visa issue is mentioned?? Ensenada by land to at least see and inspect
the boat is a very easy trip.
Your posts here say she is a 1979, and your "for sale" posts elsewhere for the vessel say 1975. Minor detail, but still different.
Is the vessel insured? Liability insurance? Deliveries are expensive and time consuming and come with a huge responsibility. When was the last time
the vessel had a survey? How do you know the seaworthiness and condition of the rigging, etc. of this aging vessel?
Anyone interested will want answers to these questions and more.
Best of luck and I hope your dream comes true. |
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Dude,
I would pay for a well-equipped charter boat for holiday,... but delivery of someone's yacht that may/may not be ready to sail, well, that requires
payment to me. Yacht maintenance and delivery is not a vacation.
[Edited on 8-23-2012 by mtgoat666]
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Would you say the same thing if it came to borrowing and using a guy's truck and trailer home, Are you saying that you'd bring his equipment back in
whatever condition it ended up after you using it???
Somehow,i dont think so, and what i am expecting isnt much different.
But yeah,,i get your point about renting a charter vessel, however this situation is meant for those who want some open water adventure without all
the Namby Pamby Rules and Regs of a Rental Unit.
| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by Nemo55
As to the condition of this vessel, i have no first hand knowledge, i trust the Previous owner when he tells me that aside from some minor issues, she
is completely sea worthy.
and her Sails and Rigging are all in Good shape.
And Finally as to Insurance, she is uninsured at the moment, and as far as allowing someone else to skipper her, NOTHING in this life is completely
free,,do you expect me to pay for someones Holiday (what i am offering) and Pay for the Insurance for the trip also??
There is not a Sane person afloat who would do such a thing.
In exchange for the use of my Vessel (no strings) i would expect the boat to be maintained and upkept, and insurance would be up to whoever skippered
her.
(car rental agencies expect you to buy your own insurance, why is this any different?)
| Quote: | Originally posted by Marla Daily
Interesting post. As you now are undoubtedly aware, a foreigner buying a US documented vessel must "un-document" the vessel, because documented
vessels cannot be owned by non-US citizens.
Sounds like you still might have paperwork issues to resolve. Your post brings to mind several obvious questions which must have interesting answers.
You are obviously hoping to live a dream—as are many who are drawn to Baja:
Just curious, but why are you "not capable" of delivering your own boat? Presumably you bought a boat you felt you could handle.
Why haven't you ever gone to see the vessel? Doesn't really make any sense. A visa issue is mentioned?? Ensenada by land to at least see and inspect
the boat is a very easy trip.
Your posts here say she is a 1979, and your "for sale" posts elsewhere for the vessel say 1975. Minor detail, but still different.
Is the vessel insured? Liability insurance? Deliveries are expensive and time consuming and come with a huge responsibility. When was the last time
the vessel had a survey? How do you know the seaworthiness and condition of the rigging, etc. of this aging vessel?
Anyone interested will want answers to these questions and more.
Best of luck and I hope your dream comes true. |
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Dude,
I would pay for a well-equipped charter boat for holiday,... but delivery of someone's yacht that may/may not be ready to sail, well, that requires
payment to me. Yacht maintenance and delivery is not a vacation.
[Edited on 8-23-2012 by mtgoat666] |
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