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Ken Cooke
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US Border Patrol involved in fatal shooting near border
CHULA VISTA, Calif. - A woman rammed a plainclothes U.S. Border Patrol agent with a car on a residential South Bay road on Friday, hurling him onto
the hood of the vehicle and prompting him to fatally shoot her through the windshield in self-defense, authorities reported.
The lawman was in southwestern Chula Vista with other undercover personnel to serve a felony arrest warrant when the dark-green Honda Accord struck
him in the 600 block of Moss Street about 1 p.m., according to police and federal officials.
"The agent ... was hit by the vehicle and carried several hundred yards on the hood before, fearing for his life, (he) did discharge his weapon to get
the vehicle to stop," Border Patrol Deputy Chief Rodney Scott told reporters.
Area residents described hearing six to eight shots ring out. The woman, whose name was not immediately available, died at the scene.
Medics took the agent to a hospital. Scott said he did not know the extent of his injuries.
"But he was impacted by a vehicle pretty hard," the spokesman added.
The woman was not the subject of the warrant, Scott told news crews. That suspect remained at large in the late afternoon, he said.
Area resident Hector Salazar told a local television station he was reading his mail in his home when the deadly shooting occurred a short distance
away.
"I just saw an agent with a gun walking toward the car and yelling," he said. "But the person inside didn't respond."
The Chula Vista Police Department was investigating the case in conjunction with the Border Patrol and U.S. Inspector General's Office, CVPD Lt. Lon
Turner said.
Authorities have closed Moss Street from Woodlawn Avenue to Broadway as they conduct their investigation. .
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FINALLY .................
Assuming that the attacked officer comes out OK.
A story that turns out to have a happy ending ?
With a malefactor getting EXACTLY what she deserved.
DEAD.
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vandy
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I dunno...
An "undercover" agent walking towards my car with a gun drawn and yelling?
I could panic too.
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MMc
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Let's all build our case,on less then a 1000 words from a reporter who may or may not have been to the seen. How about some bad stuff went down with a
officer is injured and a female driver dead.I tend to side with CBP but there is more to this. To bad we will never hear the whole story or the whole
truth.
MMc
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akshadow
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panic?
I think the statement is about another agent after the shooting had already occurred so driver did not panic.
| Quote: | Originally posted by vandy
I dunno...
An "undercover" agent walking towards my car with a gun drawn and yelling?
I could panic too. |
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Why are plain clothes, undercover cops serving a felony arrest warrant?
If a scruffy dude in a tee-shirt and ripped jeans, pointed a gun at me, and I had the opportunity, I'd likely try to run him down too fearing he was
up to no good.
There is no doubt more to this story, but it's looking like CBP blew it on this one. If he had a vest on that said "CBP" or "POLICE" then the woman
is the idiot; but from the info in the story, it's not looking like that's how it went down. Anyone can yell "STOP! POLICE! DON'T MOVE!" It
doesn't make them real cops.
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From USA Today:
Border Patrol agent shoots, kills woman in Calif.1:54AM EST September 29. 2012 -
CHULA VISTA, Calif. (AP) -- A Border Patrol agent fatally shot a 32-year-old mother of five Friday in suburban San Diego as he rode on the hood of her
car after she ran into him, authorities and family members said.
The agent fired after being driven several hundred yards on the hood, Chula Vista police Capt. Gary Wedge told The Associated Press. The woman was
later identified in a police statement as Valeria Alvarado.
The shooting occurred about five miles north of the Mexican border as plainclothes agents were looking to serve a felony warrant in the area to
someone other than Alvarado, Border Patrol Deputy Chief Rodney Scott told U-T San Diego.
Scott said the agent was stuck atop the car as Alvarado drove.
"Fearing for his life, he discharged his weapon to get the vehicle to stop," Scott said. No other agents fired.
Alvarado was declared dead at the scene, and the agent was taken to a hospital. His injuries were not clear.
After talking to investigators, family members including her husband and cousin told U-T San Diego that Alvarado was a housewife and mother of
five children ranging from ages 3 to 17 who went by the name Monique.
"I love her to the fullest. That's my heart," husband Gilbert Alvarado said. "Where's the evidence my wife threatened a trained officer? I want
justice."
Family members said Valeria Alvarado grew up in Chula Vista where the shooting took place but had been living about five miles away in the Southcrest
neighborhood of San Diego, and they did not know why she was in her former hometown.
Hector Salazar, one of several neighbors who witnessed the incident, said he saw a man in civilian clothes on the hood of a black car aiming a gun at
the windshield.
Salazar told U-T San Diego the man started pulling the trigger, and he heard about five shots. Moments later, other plainclothes agents approached the
car, he said.
The person named in the warrant the agents were serving was not apprehended, Scott said.
The FBI and Chula Vista police are investigating.
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if a guy with a gun is walking towards you speaking to you you'd better listen, cop or not. 95% of the time the outcome will be like this if you don't
listen. worst case he wants your car, but you are alive.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MMc
Let's all build our case,on less then a 1000 words from a reporter who may or may not have been to the seen. How about some bad stuff went down with a
officer is injured and a female driver dead.I tend to side with CBP but there is more to this. To bad we will never hear the whole story or the whole
truth.
MMc |
This was part of the report on CBS San Deigo:
Some eyewitnesses to the incident have contradicted the Border Patrol's account of the shooting.
"The officer never got struck by the vehicle," said Prince Watson, who told News 8 he saw the encounter. "The vehicle was actually moving in
reverse."
Alvarado's family members say they are demanding answers.
"I want justice!" shouted Alvarado's husband, Gilbert Alvarado. "Whoever shot my wife... he needs to get shot. He needs to get justice served."
Bob Durrell
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Need to watch Training Day the movie for better techniques
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I was going to say, you're supposed to stop when told. I guess she won't have a chance to stop when told the next time.
Never disrespect authority. She learned the hard way.
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Stop the car? It may have been safer (for him) to shoot through the hood and kill the engine.
Just sayin'.
[Edited on 9-29-2012 by Feathers]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
Having been on a number of CBP "incidents" and watching more prestigious and/or normal law enforcement personnel cringe at their tactics and resulting
outcomes this could turn out interesting.
Some agencies tend to have more cowboys, for lack of a better term, than others.
A non-uniformed guy with a gun.... from a purely speculative point of view I would say she didn't ram him hard enough. |
Agree totally. Why would a woman with five children who is a US Citizen want to run from CBP if in fact she knew who she was dealing with. She should
have accelerated hard enough to paste him on the grill like a bug and then slammed on the brakes and run him over. Maybe they would be forced to
re-evaluate their cowboy tactics then.
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Given that there are now 1200 radical revolutionary paramilitary "militias" since President Obama was elected, and since Tom Delay, (R) as his parting
insult to America oversaw the lapse of the assault weapon law put in place by the Democrats, the possibility of being accosted by armed gangs of
civilians is EVER INCREASING, and it may be for religious or political reasons, not just gang crime.
The Jefferson State Militia thinks that my Sheriff is on THEIR side, and he has every reason to believe it. When he the Sheriff warns the public to
call him immediately if they see people in the woods with guns and camouflage clothes, he may be protecting them from marijuana growers, or protecting
his brothers in the militia while they practice to take over northern California by force of arms.
I know that seven Sheriffs in the State of Jefferson are under Federal investigation by homeland security. With a little luck, Obama is lying about
WHO is being wiretapped, and mis-directing the interest onto the foreign terrorists will allow DHS to get a line around the domestic terrorists. My
local group of gunmen, as near as I can determine, would have had no problem supporting Timothy McVey.
An arrest warrant was served on a kid on my block a week or so ago. It is a huge tragedy that he killed an innocent man in a drunken car wreck. His
family has been waiting a year for the phone call telling them where to turn him in. (They didn't charge him until he had recovered from his
near-fatal injuries to save tax dollars.) They didn't call his Mom, whom everyone knows in our small town, they sent 5 M-16's, a 12 Gauge riot gun,
and seven 14 shot Glocks, in six squad cars (five from the State Police CHP). This gross over reaction was by troops in uniform. I honestly do not
know what I would do, especially since I am a vocal opponent of the Christian paramilitary, if I encountered a group of armed men in civilian clothes
on a rural road.
I'm cutting the dead woman some slack, who knows what she was thinking? She also lives in a part of the country where the equation is complicated by
warring gangs of racial thugs.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vandy
I dunno...
An "undercover" agent walking towards my car with a gun drawn and yelling?
I could panic too. |
I agree, the incident needs to be investigated throughly.
bacquito
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajajorge
Never disrespect authority. She learned the hard way. |
That's the America you think we live in? "Disrespect" authority and you lose your life?
I will side with a dead civilian first. Chances are high that cowboy cops are to blame for this pointless loss of life.
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pointless speculation
Maybe all of you keyboard commandos should wait till all of the FACTS are in.........just sayin'
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Killed woman's family weighs in...
Family demands answers to Police shooting
SAN DIEGO -- The family of a 32-year-old woman killed by a U.S. Customs and Border Protection agent in Chula Vista on Friday is outraged by what they
believe was an unjustified shooting.
Chula Vista officials said the shooting happened in the middle of the street in a residential area after a U.S. Customs and Border Protection agent
was allegedly assaulted by a woman driving a vehicle.
ut, in spite of information from Chula Vista officials, Alvarado’s family has a very different story about what happened on Moss Street Friday.
Her husband, Gilbert Alvarado, is furious about what happened to his wife – the mother of his five children. He believes the agent who shot her
overreacted.
"My wife got killed for no reason," Gilbert told NBC 7 Friday night. "Show me that my wife had a gun or something that threatened the guy’s life where
he had to use lethal force against her."
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get use to it
gonna get worse !! usa is a falling !!
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Intentional Omission?????
Hey, Ken....you intentionally left out this part of the article from your cut-n-paste post..............
"Officials said Border Patrol agents were serving a felony warrant in the area when Alvarado allegedly intentionally tried to run over an agent.
Alvarado was not the subject of the warrant.
CBP Chief Patrol Agent Rodney Scott said the agent was carried several hundred yards on the hood of the car before he fired his weapon at the woman.
"The suspect was armed with a vehicle, and literally ran our agent down," said Scott. “He was carried several hundred yards before he discharged his
weapon through the windshield of the vehicle.”
Alvarado was killed in the shooting. The agent was hospitalized and his current condition is unknown."
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