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luv2fish
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Deportations
Wow the Federal Government is giving people free rides all the way to Mex city. Actually rather than leave people at violent border cities such as
San Ysidro, they are going to be flown to Mexico City.I guess this might help clean up El Bordo, lets wait and see.
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Hit Volaris airlines at the right time and its only $35 one way (deal I got to Guadalajara in March)! Gov't probably got a deal going...or they just
need a fed employee to get up at 2am every morning and check the website like I do!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by paranewbi
Hit Volaris airlines at the right time and its only $35 one way (deal I got to Guadalajara in March)! Gov't probably got a deal going...or they just
need a fed employee to get up at 2am every morning and check the website like I do! |
lol... I'll bite... how much does it cost to go the other way?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by luv2fish
Wow the Federal Government is giving people free rides all the way to Mex city. Actually rather than leave people at violent border cities such as
San Ysidro, they are going to be flown to Mexico City.I guess this might help clean up El Bordo, lets wait and see. |
well that sounds like a good plan, do you know if the deportee's have a choice?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Feathers
| Quote: | Originally posted by paranewbi
Hit Volaris airlines at the right time and its only $35 one way (deal I got to Guadalajara in March)! Gov't probably got a deal going...or they just
need a fed employee to get up at 2am every morning and check the website like I do! |
lol... I'll bite... how much does it cost to go the other way?
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Without looking it up the article I read yesterday said it was costing the U.S. $745 I believe, per person to Mexico City.
I remember thinking they should check fares a little closer.
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Sorry for the confusion, Cisco. I was referring to the one way fare from Mexico City to the States. Betcha it isn't $35! 
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This isn't the first time they've taken then inland. It used to be a running joke that when an illegal wanted to take a vacation, he'd just get busted
by the Migra.
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[Edited on 10-4-2012 by DENNIS]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Feathers
Sorry for the confusion, Cisco. I was referring to the one way fare from Mexico City to the States. Betcha it isn't $35! |
There are a number of articles regarding this. Here is one reporting previous attempts:
Under a previous effort, some Mexicans who were arrested by the Border Patrol in Arizona's stifling summer heat were offered a free flight to Mexico
City, but they could refuse. The Mexican Interior Repatriation Program flights carried 125,164 passengers at a cost of $90.6 million from 2004 to
2011, or an average of $724 for each passenger, according to ICE.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/u-s-begins-mexican-...
Seems a bit much. Maybe an in-flight meal was served???
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cisco
Seems a bit much. Maybe an in-flight meal was served??? |
Or too much luggage.
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That was then, this is now
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
This isn't the first time they've taken then inland. It used to be a running joke that when an illegal wanted to take a vacation, he'd just get busted
by the Migra.
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[Edited on 10-4-2012 by DENNIS] |
Getting busted now means getting fingerprinted,
and all the Migra vehicles have the dashboard touch pad,
Get picked up again, touch the pad, and BINGO
off to the not so nice blockade.
Getting a free ride south is no longer a good bet, given the technology.
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luv2fish
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| Quote: | Originally posted by willardguy
| Quote: | Originally posted by luv2fish
Wow the Federal Government is giving people free rides all the way to Mex city. Actually rather than leave people at violent border cities such as
San Ysidro, they are going to be flown to Mexico City.I guess this might help clean up El Bordo, lets wait and see. |
well that sounds like a good plan, do you know if the deportee's have a choice? |
Yeah if they had a choice they would be tourists.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
This isn't the first time they've taken then inland. It used to be a running joke that when an illegal wanted to take a vacation, he'd just get busted
by the Migra.
[Edited on 10-4-2012 by DENNIS] |
Not really a joking matter. Most of the deportees are living in poverty, barely getting by. Don't think immigrant laborers that are cleaning your
house, cutting your grass for minimum wage are turning themselves in for vacation.
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Slave labor is wrong... but these laborers aren't victims. They're volunteers.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Feathers
Slave labor is wrong... but these laborers aren't victims. They're volunteers. |
In a way I disagree Feathers.
They are victims economically, educationally and in some ways culturally if they are working in a foreign country.
Our homegrown victims were wonderfully documented in Barbara Ehrenreich's book "'Nickle and Dimed'". On (Not) Getting By in America". Written 12 or 13
years ago the number of Americans working in "slave labor" conditions has only increased.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cisco
| Quote: | Originally posted by Feathers
Slave labor is wrong... but these laborers aren't victims. They're volunteers. |
In a way I disagree Feathers.
They are victims economically, educationally and in some ways culturally if they are working in a foreign country.
Our homegrown victims were wonderfully documented in Barbara Ehrenreich's book "'Nickle and Dimed'". On (Not) Getting By in America". Written 12 or 13
years ago the number of Americans working in "slave labor" conditions has only increased. |
Maybe the "homegrown slaves" are victims. I think the laborers who enter the US to work illegally are volunteers.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Feathers
I think the laborers who enter the US to work illegally are volunteers. |
"Volunteers?" I think they are more akin to economic refugees. I think many can't stay home because the prospects of employment and income at home
are very bleak.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by Feathers
I think the laborers who enter the US to work illegally are volunteers. |
"Volunteers?" I think they are more akin to economic refugees. I think many can't stay home because the prospects of employment and income at home
are very bleak. |
I think that misses the mark by a long shot. After moving to Mexico for retirement, I see untold business opportunities that could make a lot of
money, and spend quite a bit of time with people of like mind who are making a lot of money. The only limititation I see are those who simply want a
job, have not a whole lot of skills, and hope that someone pays them to go to work, put in a days time, and receives a paycheck.
I see a lot of people picking up cans on the highway because that is all they can visualize, whereas the hardware store operator in town knows that he
could not pick up enough cans to pay for lunch, no matter how good the picking was.
Finally, each individual has a responsibility to know and follow the laws in place. I knew clearly what the immigration laws were for Mexico and did
not try to sneak in and try to stay out of sight and out of mind. When I used to run a rehabilitation program and facility for juvenille delinquents,
we had a favorite character type called: The kid who shot his parents and then asked for placement and treatment as an Orphan.
I would love to see the legislature get off its ass and work on real immigration reform that works for everyone, but this system of looking the other
way while people are allowed to sneak across and then ask for mercy and understanding is doing nothing but playing the "Victim" and does nothing for
anyones rights or responsibilities.
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^^^YES!^^^
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Excellent analogy, Pescador.
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..."When I used to run a rehabilitation program and facility for juvenille delinquents, we had a favorite character type called: The kid who shot his
parents and then asked for placement and treatment as an Orphan."
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
Not really a joking matter. Most of the deportees are living in poverty, barely getting by. Don't think immigrant laborers that are cleaning your
house, cutting your grass for minimum wage are turning themselves in for vacation. |
What they do, they do by choice and if anyone is to blame for their poor situation, it's their own government.
Why do we have to endure a guilt trip for all the world's boolsht? It's something I really tire of.
I Should have finished reading the comments before adding mine which are repeatedly redundant.
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[Edited on 10-5-2012 by DENNIS]
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