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fish101
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Parking problems in Loreto
On Monday, Oct 1st, 3 of my friends from Calif, parked their truck and boat trailer on the Malecon just north of the Navy Facility. Prior to parking
their vehicle they had asked Pam Bowles and the API representative where they could park and were told that it was okay to park along the Malecon past
the Navy Facility. Upon returning in the afternoon, both the truck and trailer had been towed to the Police yard. They were charged 100 dollars for
illegal parking. The very next day the same area on the malecon had two vehicles with their trailers parked, however, both had Mexican plates on the
vehicles. What do we need to do to bring this to the attention of the local city officials? These fishermen come to Loreto two different times a year
and normally there are at least six of them with two different boats. On Oct 3rd they decided to go to Port Escondido, only to find out that they
could not launch there as they did not have the proper documentation. Needless to say, they departed Loreto on Oct 4th, saying they would never return
to fish here again. Is this just another "gringo tax" or can we do anything to stop the police from towing our vehicles?
[Edited on 10-7-2012 by fish101]
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ncampion
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There is a sign on the Malecon right near the Navy post, but I thought it only applied to the area South of the sign. There is also a sign on Juarez
just before Madero. Again I thougt it meant no parkng trailers West of the sign. We parked on Juarez and nothing happened, but now I'm concerned.
If you can't park a trailer on either of these streets, where CAN you park?? This is not a good situation and the city needs to address it
immediately. May be the Port Captian can be of some help????
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luv2fish
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fish101
Needless to say, they departed Loreto on Oct 4th, saying they would never return to fish here again.
[Edited on 10-7-2012 by fish101] |
I doubt that the Loreto Chamber of Commerce / Visitors Bureau gives two hoots about a few angry gringos not returning. You're not dealing with
Nordstroms or Macys. Just saying, I hope they get a written letter of apology.
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rhintransit
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I don't think I've ever heard of anyone being towed here (or even getting a ticket)...so it's not a form of gringo taxation.
with all the work on the Malecon, the usual lax rules may not apply . my guess would be that they managed to park somewhere that blocked construction
or access to same.
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reality\'s never been of much use out here...
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Bob and jane
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boat parking in loreto
We were informed a week ago by a local panguero that boat trailer parking was now only being allowed on Agua Dulce, the east/west street between
Juarez and the port captain's street. Even the local pangueros are required to park there now. This was confirmed by officials at the darcena. I
notice that some trailers are being parked along the street running east/west along the old La Pinta. At some point, when the fishing improves, Agua
Dulce will be maxed out. I don't know what will happen then. It IS frustrating, but those are the current rules. Pays to follow them. My
advice--get there early to find a parking place. But not earlier than us :-)
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ncampion
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That is pretty unacceptable. Last year there is the "Ramp Tax" and now there is nowhere to park a trailer. Not sure who they remodeled the Malecon
for, but it was not for the boaters and fishermen. You can't have a town that depends on boaters and fishermen for income and then make it that
unfriendly.
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vandenberg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ncampion
You can't have a town that depends on boaters and fishermen for income and then make it that unfriendly. |
That's gringo thinking, doesn't apply in Mexico.
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CJ
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Trailer parking
Just go down and talk to Arturo's Sportfishing rent their boats and leave your's HOME........that's what they want you to do. Bienvenido a Loreto.
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DaliDali
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rhintransit
I don't think I've ever heard of anyone being towed here (or even getting a ticket)...so it's not a form of gringo taxation.
with all the work on the Malecon, the usual lax rules may not apply . my guess would be that they managed to park somewhere that blocked construction
or access to same.
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Your guess is wrong....
The area north of the Marine base has always been open to parking of trucks and boat trailers and at that time, was not, nor has it been recently,
closed for construction.
The curb area south of the Marine base yes....but NOT north of it.
There is a no trailer parking sign at the corner of Anastacio Carrillo and the malecon street but none farther north.
As of today, October 8th, the northern street (La Pinta side) that connects to the malecon is closed for repairs....yet not a sole around?
As of right this minute, the only parking area for boat trailers and tow vehicles is on Agua Dulce
To unilateraly tow a vehicle for parking in this "gray" area, where no signs are visible is a pure money grab.
A note on the windshield with a warning would be enough to twart future violations. To tow a truck and trailer away to the polica yard?...no way!!
Local gringo residents are still stinging from the ramp tax and now along comes the tow truck!!!!
Now were faced with parking on a dirt road (Agua Dulce) that has a history of truck breakins, vandalism and thefts.
Not to mention the big loads of sand and gravel in the roadway taking up space on that road, nearer the malecon.
If your not a local boat owner and fishermen, I guess it's no big deal to you or anyone else....but those of us who use that ramp and need to park a
tow vehicle and trailer..it is a HUGE deal.
We lost the roadway by the Port Capitan, the north end of the malecon, just south of Coco Loco on the malecon and inside the ramp area itself.
No more tow trucks please!!
[Edited on 10-8-2012 by DaliDali]
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luv2fish
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vandenberg
| Quote: | Originally posted by ncampion
You can't have a town that depends on boaters and fishermen for income and then make it that unfriendly. |
That's gringo thinking, doesn't apply in Mexico. |
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That is exactly why I am done with Loreto.Ramp tax ? Crazy!!!!!!okay ,How about a wash down area, fish cleaning station , Palapa with misters and cold
beer .
Loreto you are shooting yourself in the foot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Magico status or not , you're going and have for the most part fall off the Radar for fisherman and tourist alike. It only takes one person to tell
ten people how bad or asinine the situation is there .
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Lengua
That is exactly why I am done with Loreto.Ramp tax ? Crazy!!!!!! |
Is that in addition to a ramp fee?
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CJ
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Parking
Well said Lengua you are right on. We've been here long enough to get used to the ups and downs......but lately it's been down more than up. 
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CJ
Well said Lengua you are right on. We've been here long enough to get used to the ups and downs......but lately it's been down more than up. |
Hey CJ.....I'll ask you. Is the ramp tax in addition to a ramp fee, and how much are they?
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Its possible to respond to the towing in front of a transit judge and present photos and the specifics to the case in order to show there was signage
nor notice of no parking with trailer to get a clear determination on the legality. You could also take photos and make a case to file a denuncia
against the police officer in question or send them to TV Azteca and Colectivo Perico or other news organizations. Certainly the fellow that towed
is betting you won't but if you did if could likely be settled in your favor with sufficient evidence and witnesses. It's important to call attention
to these types of things and name names and places and show photos or video of the circumstances to draw attention. Is there a transit judge to go to
like in La Paz? We've won parking infraction cases there with photos and simply making a clear case that the cop was unfair. Be diligent, polite and
persistent when dealing with these issues and you will win.
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Dennis, when I was there a few months ago, there was a ramp use fee, though I cannot remember how much. . . ten or twelve dollars is my best guess.
I'm also guessing that ncampion's "ramp tax" is referring to that ramp use fee.
I didn't mind paying the fee, but he does have a point though, in that the ramp and harbor do not have even a fish cleaning station, which is an issue
given the new Mexican rule that fish cannot be filleted at sea.
Christopher Bruno, Elk Grove, CA.
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10 dollar ramp fee doesn't seem to be too bad and should include parking... but to require a palapa with misters?????? Is the long term plan to
include parking once the construction is done?
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Fight Back!!!!
From a post by Baja Blanca on 2-29-12:
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=58572
Secretary Of Tourism Reaches Out To English Speakers
The Secretary of Tourism in Baja California Sur has started their English Facebook page with everything that one needs to know about this beautiful
state.
The page has all kinds of helpful and great information on upcoming events, different attractions around the state and much more.
Don’t hesitate, and take a look. Let’s help support our state by liking their Facebook page. You can also follow them on Twitter.Facebook- www.facebook.com/pages/Visit-Baja-Sur/181690668576377
Twitter- Visit Baja Sur
Thank you so much. Secretary of Tourism, La Paz BCS - Olivia Brower, 612-117-8349
And from a post by DavidK on 3-1-12
http://www.facebook.com/VisitBajaSur
If you don't make some noise, nothing will get fixed.......the parking, ramp fees, cleaning stations..........I'm sure the government fathers of
Loreto don't like bad publicity.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaBruno
Dennis, when I was there a few months ago, there was a ramp use fee, though I cannot remember how much. . . ten or twelve dollars is my best guess.
I'm also guessing that ncampion's "ramp tax" is referring to that ramp use fee.
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well....that price seems reasonable from what I've heard of prices here in Ensenada, but I'm just an observor.
Is that "in and out?"
Thanks, Bruno.
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BajaBruno
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Dennis, that is "in & out." Several years ago I was launching at Acapulco and the rate was $100 each way, at the cheap launch ramp, which also
had no services. It made more sense to leave the boat at the dock, which I did. So, I don't complain about the Loreto fees.
Christopher Bruno, Elk Grove, CA.
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