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paranewbi
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Papers for Grandkids
Pulling two grandkids out of school for a few days at Gonzaga. We're either crossing at Tecate or Otay...know how to do the adult paper thing...need
to know if I have to have passports for the kids or will just school ID and or Birth Certs do for the re-entry and Mex side.
Will the mexican side require them to have visa's also? Or will the wifes and mine do for all of us.
The kids are 10 and 15.
Good ones, plan for now is to bring em back with us 
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Bob and Susan
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if you ask...you can attach the kids to your tourist visas...avoid extra payment
i'd get them passports for comfort if something happens
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Mulegena
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How about a statement from their parents giving permission for their kids to be with you in Mexico and you have the authority to act in their behalf,
including seeking medical treatment? They might want to date, sign and notarize this and have it written in both English and Spanish.
[Edited on 10-7-2012 by Mulegena]
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Sallysouth
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Like what Woody said!!!
Happiness is just a Baja memory away...
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Bob and Susan
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mulegena
How about a statement from their parents giving permission for their kids to be with you in Mexico and you have the authority to act in their behalf,
including seeking medical treatment? They might want to date, sign and notarize this and have it written in both English and Spanish.
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that is a good idea...
but i think its not required
a made up rule by americans
travel and communication is FAST nowdays
not like the OLD days
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woody with a view
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like when YOUR grandkid needs blood NOW and you want to rely on the tortilla telegraph?
Sra Mulegena has it. close this thread...
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Bob and Susan
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
like when YOUR grandkid needs blood NOW and you want to rely on the tortilla telegraph?
Sra Mulegena has it. close this thread... |
nope...not required in baja...just $$$
the rule is made up
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What we do..............
Have a letter signed and notarized by BOTH parents giving permission for international travel.
On the same document......get the rights to make emergency medical decisions.
Get two current photos of each kid (we do the same for the adults too). Put these in the glove compartment. Take the second set and email them to
yourself. This is in case one gets lost.......or worst.
Most important.............toys, games, and junk food snacks in the car !!!!!!!
BTW.....I take our kids, grand kids....their friends....to Baja all the time. Not afraid of the issues going on down there....which we have yet seen
:-) Have fun.
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
| Quote: | Originally posted by Mulegena
How about a statement from their parents giving permission for their kids to be with you in Mexico and you have the authority to act in their behalf,
including seeking medical treatment? They might want to date, sign and notarize this and have it written in both English and Spanish.
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that is a good idea...
but i think its not required
a made up rule by americans
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made up rule? what is your basis for your saying the rule does not exist? 
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Sallysouth
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It seems to me that it is common sense to do what mcfez suggested.Why not be careful and avoid possible problems if something should happen?When I
have my G-kids for a good amount of time I try to get at least the medical authority for them if the parents are on a vacation and out of reach.
Happiness is just a Baja memory away...
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paranewbi
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Thanks for all the info on permission/medical concerns!!
Got that covered...well seasoned on all of those matters as we have 5 kids and 11 grandkids. Last family outing was several years ago to Guadelupe
hot springs with all of them plus stragglers (21 total!). That before the new rules.
Grandma's a nurse (cardiac, although she's the only one who needs that specialty when one of the gkids bleeds and she gets really upset that I make
them pose for a photo before they can get any medical attention from grandma...funny, they always stop crying when I tell them to say 'cheese', with a
tooth thru their lip).
I was just concerned about any issues with kids not having passport on either side of the border. Looking for a little advice from those like McFez as
I have read of his bringing plenty of little ones in the past. I know he's got trusted advice since his fishing bait recipe worked great last time in
Gonzaga!
So...ask to have them added to our visa? We'll have the Bcerts and School ID's along as well as extra photos...we also always leave current photos of
the vehicle we are traveling in with our family here.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by paranewbi
So...ask to have them added to our visa? We'll have the Bcerts and School ID's along as well as extra photos... |
if you "ask" but don't have passports, i suspect they will follow the "rules" which say passport required, so perhaps you should not ask.
i think people here are telling you that you can enter mexico via foot or via car w/o passport if you don't ask, don't tell the immigration agents...
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have fun with your grand kids. Like everything else in Mexico it is better to be prepared as they never ask until they ask until it is your turn. We
have already discussed the dog food thing here but it is a good example. Nancy
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paranewbi
Between 1978 and 1998 I made over 50 trips to Baja by private aircraft, accompanied by from 1 to 3 of my 3 biological children. During that time I
was divorced from their mother. Before I started this odyssey I physically went to the Mexican Consulate office in Los Angeles, and asked them what
paperwork was required in order for the kids to travel with me into Mexico. They told me I would need, for each child, a birth certificate (passports
hadn't been invented yet ) and a signed and notarized letter from the other
parent giving me permission to take the child into Mexico. I carefully prepared and gathered these papers, and they were with me on every trip. In
all those years I was asked for the papers exactly once, in Mexicali. My point is not to advise you what is currently required, I am sure things have
changed in the last 35 years. My point is to advise you to get this information directly from the Mexican government, as I did. You are getting some
sincere and well-meaning advice here, but this is something you don't want to rely on unofficially. It is a tremendous risk. Go to, or contact a
local Mexican consulate and get the straight story from them, and do exactly what they tell you.
carpe diem!
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you might want to ask how much young blonde kids are going for on the open market
just asking
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| Quote: | Originally posted by desertcpl
you might want to ask how much young blonde kids are going for on the open market
just asking |
I did. Decided to keep 'em anyway.
carpe diem!
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From the US State Dept
http://mexico.usembassy.gov/eng/eacs_sheet.html
Entry Requirements for Mexico
As of March 1, 2010, all U.S. citizens – including children -- must present a valid passport, book or card, for travel beyond the “border zone” into
the interior of Mexico. Entry by any means, for example by plane or car, is included in this requirement. The “border zone” is generally defined as
an area between 20 to 30 kilometers of the border with the U.S., depending on the location. Stays of less than 72 hours within the border zone do not
require a visa or tourist card.
Unaccompanied Minors Departing Mexico
In order to combat international child abduction or the exploitation of minors, Article 215 of Mexico’s Ley General de Población requires that minor
non-Mexican children leaving Mexico must be accompanied by both parents or guardians or be prepared to present written authorization to travel from
the absent parent or parents.
This document must include:
the name(s) of the authorizing parent(s),
the name of the child,
the name(s) of the adult(s) accompanying the child, and
the notarized signature(s) of the absent parent(s)
The child must be carrying the original letter – not a faxed or scanned copy – as well as proof of the parent/child relationship (usually a birth
certificate) – and an original custody decree, if applicable.
If there is only one custodial parent, the accompanying adult should be prepared to present documentation to that effect (e.g, a court order granting
sole custody to one parent, a death certificate for the absent parent, etc.).
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I started traveling to Baja without my parents when I was 16... and went with other friends also under 18... that was in 1974/5... They DID require
and ask for notarized permission slips from our parents then.
In the early 2000's when my son took a school-friend on one of our camping trips (twice)... I had a permission slip from his parents... but was NEVER
asked to show it.
As with the tourist card... BETTER TO HAVE IT and NOT NEED IT, THEN to need it and not have it!!!
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Thanks for all the info! We'll let you know how we did.
Figured the easiest way to do it is to kick em out of the car and let them run across both ways...meet up on the other side 
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