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Desertbull
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Chapala to Coco's
Last night ... THURSDAY night was an amazing experience on the northbound inbound to Coco's...
First was a fully loaded enclosed semi tractor trailer following me down the Chapala road in the dark.
Second was the fully loaded semi flatbed loaded with massive steel fabricated components that took up the entire road as the Black Mamba slid just by
before he lost his load blocking the road.
A Sportsmobile yuppy worried about how rough the road was...I just laughed
An Applied construction manager towing gear out of bridge construction with a flat tire on his Ford F150 right rear, and a flat tire on his flatbed
trailer and NO TOOLS! We solved his problem in 10 minutes.
An American towing his Airstream south over the road not listening about the blocked road by the big flatbed semi.
Chase trucks and trailers like it was Friday night LA traffic....
By the time we got to Rancho Grande the motos and ATV's were heading south..
So much traffic
DREAM IT! PLAN IT! LIVE IT!
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willardguy
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we encountered semi's with humongous tanks and machinery rumbling south towards coco's a couple weeks ago. we were told its mining equipment heading
to santa rosalia.
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thebajarunner
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Top secret UFO launching pad
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David K
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Gonzaga Bay... on a highway... how sad.
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Sweetwater
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I can hardly wait till the entire stretch is paved.........
that's cynical sarcasm intended.......
Everbody\'s preachin\' at me that we all wanna git to heaven, trouble is, nobody wants to die to git there.-BB King
Reality is what does not go away when you stop believing in it. -Philip K Dick
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dtbushpilot
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I'm looking forward to it, no sarcasm intended......dt
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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rts551
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I'll be glad when it is done. Provides an alternative (and shorter for Arizona) route for us southern Baja dwellers....without the punishing road.
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capt. mike
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not for the people of mexico
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Gonzaga Bay... on a highway... how sad. |
this means jobs. and maybe a future.
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Now joined L. Ron Hoover\'s church of Appliantology
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David K
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Since there is almost no local population look for a bunch of new to Baja workers from the mainland... and non of you liked it when other parts of
Baja got new demographics!
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Since there is almost no local population look for a bunch of new to Baja workers from the mainland... and non of you liked it when other parts of
Baja got new demographics! |
Yup. There goes the neighborhood. As hwy 1 was paved, Every community ruined by them darn Mesicans
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David K
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Highway One was paved in 1973, and connected existing towns together, the only town that was created by Hwy. 1 I can think of is Cataviņa, and that
isn't too big of a town...
Hwy. 5 south of San Felipe, and specially south of Puertecitos has no existing natural towns*... so if Gonzaga Bay is developed into the mega resort
some of you desire, then new towns will grow... and I am talking 'people' not something as derogatory as what Ralph posted above. If you like places
with lots of people (it doesn't matter what race they are Ralph), then welcome pavement into previously low populated places.
*Colonia Delicias and Puertecitos both became towns specifically for services to vacation and retirement homes.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Since there is almost no local population look for a bunch of new to Baja workers from the mainland... and non of you liked it when other parts of
Baja got new demographics! |
Curious as to whom you were referring when you stated, "non (sic) of you liked it" and what you mean by "new demographics."
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Highway One was paved in 1973, and connected existing towns together, the only town that was created by Hwy. 1 I can think of is Cataviņa, and that
isn't too big of a town...
Hwy. 5 south of San Felipe, and specially south of Puertecitos has no existing natural towns*... so if Gonzaga Bay is developed into the mega resort
some of you desire, then new towns will grow... and I am talking 'people' not something as derogatory as what Ralph posted above. If you like places
with lots of people (it doesn't matter what race they are Ralph), then welcome pavement into previously low populated places.
*Colonia Delicias and Puertecitos both became towns specifically for services to vacation and retirement homes. |
Give me a break. Vizcaino, Guerrero Negro, Rosalia, Punta Prieta, and on and on.
My tongue in cheek comment was aimed at the obvious, which I guess you missed. Bad on me. Its not the meg resort. Its the ease of transport and
transportation for the multitude of people that live in that area and point south. Get off your high horse and let go of your personal play ground.
No mega-resorts until water is found....ahhhhh not likely in that area.
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rts551
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I know I am not likely to change the minds of people who fight against minor progress in Mexico... but I KNOW the paved road to my town, Abreojos,
and the paved road to Asunccion and Bahia Tortugas have resulted in postive benefits to the community. That pavement has not resulted in an influx of
undesirable Baja workers from the mainland (whatever that means) nor has there been any megaresorts built other than Shari's campground!
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David K
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Didn't read my post well? Abreojos and Asuncion were towns BEFORE pavement. There is no local population / town south of Puertecitos other than the
few running the Gonzaga campos.
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Sweetwater
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I will tell you the reasons for my sarcasm and cynical attitude.
I grew up in the late '50-'60's in southwestern Wyoming...Sweetwater County for those interested.
My folks were both immigrant children from Italy and Slovenia. There were any number of established coal mining towns with dirt roads between them,
some were camps (sound familiar?) and several were 'company towns'.
As my 85 year old dad relates, the Great Depression was the best time of his life because everybody was equal, nobody had more than his neighbors and
folks knew how to share. We grew up awfully poor compared to modern standards, and even compared to the standards of those times. Fresh fruit and
veggies were a major treat.
One of the truest attractions of the Sea of Cortez and Baja is this same "equality", IMHO.
When the great highways and Interstates became established in the late '60's and early '70's, the quality of life improved.....?........ or make that
'modernized'.....yes, lot's of new jobs and people, less isolation, more business and money spent.....
But really.........?
Maybe I came to this planet too late but I surely enjoy the solitude, isolation, rugged topography and relative undeveloped Baja that's being paved
over.
Just my centavos.....
[Edited on 10-28-2012 by Sweetwater]
Everbody\'s preachin\' at me that we all wanna git to heaven, trouble is, nobody wants to die to git there.-BB King
Reality is what does not go away when you stop believing in it. -Philip K Dick
Nothing is worse than active ignorance. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe(1749-1832, German writer, artist and politician)
When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I\'ve never tried before. - Mae West
Experience is what keeps a man who makes the same mistake twice from admitting it the third time around.
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redhilltown
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I'm with David K and Sweetwater on this one and I have driven the road dozens of times...probably knocking out a few loose teeth and bruising a couple
of ribs! But that is just the way I liked it. Even with the old road, Gonzaga Bay was a glorious and stunning day's drive from Los Angeles...another
world...and a beautiful world at that. It will be developed and jet skis will rule the bay. That is fine for some but certainly not the reason I
drive to Baja.
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David K
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At least we are old enough to remember the 'good old days' when that bay was the reward for such a hard drive. I don't think it will be nearly as
appreciated when it is easy to drive any car to.
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"At least we are old enough to remember the 'good old days' when that bay was the reward for such a hard drive. I don't think it will be nearly as
appreciated when it is easy to drive any car to."
DK changes his song when it's closer to home.
It is so funny reading you lament about change...
MMc
"Never teach a pig to sing it frustrates you and annoys the pig" - W.C.Fields
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David K
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Changes what song? I have always gone with Mama's quote: "Bad roads bring good people, good roads bring all kinds of people"
I love slow, rocky or deep sand roads that require 4WD!
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