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Riom
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How FM3 years towards Permanent Residence are counted
San Felipe INM are not allowing the years in consecutive FM3's to count towards the 4 years needed for permanent residence.
If one FM3 for 5 years is followed by one for 2 years, they count it as only two years.
Reason they state: the second FM3 (actually No Immigrante card) required a "regularisation" because "the previous card has expired", and any
regularisation (even without any fine) resets the clock. This is even if the second FM3 application was accepted on the first business day after the
previous one expired (which I believe is the earliest that person could have applied for it, given that the other one was in force before that).
To be clear, the second card could only be applied for via regularisation, so they say there is no way two FM3 cards can ever be considered
consecutive.
So, has anybody had an application for permanent accepted anywhere based on years from a current FM3 (which is under 4 years) with the remainder from
a previous FM3? (not including proving income or assets, which are separate routes that don't count the years).
Rob
[Edited on 2012-12-7 by Riom]
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DENNIS
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The water just gets more murky by the day.
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rhintransit
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hum, must be same interpretation that Loreto immigration is applying. if you have an FM2, then the FM3 years don't count. don't know the reasoning,
but they say that you need to have four years on the FM2 to apply for permanent.
since various offices seem to be applying the rules differently, I foresee a whole of unhappy folks. some with Permanent Resident cards who have had
4 years FM3, some with Permanent Resident cards who have never been in country, some with Temp cards who have been here longer than any of them.
sigh.
reality\'s never been of much use out here...
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Hook
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My wife had two years of the booklet (FM3) and two years of the NI card. They accepted her application for a Permanente on Monday. This is in Guaymas.
She does not have it in her possession yet, of course.
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monoloco
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They gave me an FM2 after two years of FM3.
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Russ
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I've been inmigrado for 5 or 6 years now and it's really nice to not have to jump through their hoops. I don't think I want to apply for the
perminente card until I have to.
Bahia Concepcion where life starts...given a chance!
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twogringos
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three years FM3, three years FM2 and we were not able to get permanent residence in La Paz. They would only count the FM2 and said the new law
changed form 5 years to 4 the number needed for residence. We will now get a Temporary Resident card, but will it be number 1 or 4?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rhintransit
hum, must be same interpretation that Loreto immigration is applying. if you have an FM2, then the FM3 years don't count. don't know the reasoning,
but they say that you need to have four years on the FM2 to apply for permanent.
since various offices seem to be applying the rules differently, I foresee a whole of unhappy folks. some with Permanent Resident cards who have had
4 years FM3, some with Permanent Resident cards who have never been in country, some with Temp cards who have been here longer than any of them.
sigh. |
It's almost like we're their new favorite toy. WhyTF hasn't someone in an official capacity stepped up to offer some clarification? Would that be
considered unPC for them to do that ?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
.......WhyTF hasn't someone in an official capacity stepped up to offer some clarification?....... |
They don't know either 
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monoloco
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In my experience they have been consistent about 4 renewals of the FM2 before inmigrado.
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Screwed again! 5 years of FM3 but only 2 years of FM2. However,my wife does have 4 years on her FM3.
Bob Durrell
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john68
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La Paz INM rules
We have 9 years of FM3's in book form, 1 year of FM3 in card form and one year of FM2 in card form. La Paz INM now tells us that when an FM3 book is
reissued (every five years) or when they switched from a book to a card, we are reset to zero and we are, therefore, not yet eligible for Residente
Permanente.
The income/asset/skills option is not an option because the rules haven't been developed.
Has anyone in a similar situation had any luck with La Paz INM?
Thanks.
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It's merely a dream, but we should boycot imigration until they get their act together. Their efforts are becoming abusive and punitive.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
It's merely a dream, but we should boycot imigration until they get their act together. Their efforts are becoming abusive and punitive.
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Yes, by golly. We should all get out the signs, put on the marching shoes and have a mass rally and tell them that not one of us is going to get
anything from immigration until they get their act together. We demand consistency and clarity!
It should be fun.
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Bye-Bye
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
It's merely a dream, but we should boycot imigration until they get their act together. Their efforts are becoming abusive and punitive.
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Yes, by golly. We should all get out the signs, put on the marching shoes and have a mass rally and tell them that not one of us is going to get
anything from immigration until they get their act together. We demand consistency and clarity!
It should be fun. |
I will be sitting on the curb with my Pacifico and popcorn cheering you on as the INM bus takes you to the border for your deportation........
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
It's merely a dream
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
It's merely a dream
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Ah shucks --- 
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bajaguy
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Dang
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
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It's merely a dream
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Ah shucks --- |
I was saving seats on the deportation bus.....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by john68
We have 9 years of FM3's in book form, 1 year of FM3 in card form and one year of FM2 in card form. La Paz INM now tells us that when an FM3 book is
reissued (every five years) or when they switched from a book to a card, we are reset to zero and we are, therefore, not yet eligible for Residente
Permanente.
The income/asset/skills option is not an option because the rules haven't been developed.
Has anyone in a similar situation had any luck with La Paz INM?
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As far as I know, FM3 time has never counted towards inmigrado status. You are not eligible until
after your 4th renewal of FM2. It sounds to me like that is still the case, they just changed the names of everything.
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john68
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My understanding of the new law is that both FM3 and FM2 time now count toward Residente Permanente status. This reset business and the change from
books to cards makes that meaningless for many of us.
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