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[*] posted on 12-10-2012 at 06:14 PM
TJ crossing north today a mess


I dont know how long its been like this but the ready lanes at padre kino are closed. the ready lane at via rapida is backed up south of Independence and the regular lanes back to revolution. this was at 11am.
so I touristed around tj all day then headed back south. looks like tecate or otay!
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[*] posted on 12-10-2012 at 06:28 PM


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[*] posted on 12-10-2012 at 06:36 PM


It took my husband more than 6-1/2 hours to cross at Tijuana going north on Thursday, November 29. He got in line at 2:00 PM and crossed after 8:30 PM. He was held at the kiosk for 20 minutes by an incredibly rude customs agent asking question after question; then he checked under the dog beds and under the seat of the king cab. The air pollution was so bad with carbon monoxide, particulate matter and diesel fumes that when Kirk finally got home, he spent the rest of the evening throwing up. It was a BAD crossing!

It was also the first time in 8 years he has crossed at TJ—this because we've been stopped and hassled 3 of the 4 last passes through Tecate. We'll try Tecate again this Wednesday heading south.
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[*] posted on 12-10-2012 at 06:43 PM


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Originally posted by Marla Daily
It took my husband more than 6-1/2 hours to cross at Tijuana going north on Thursday, November 29. He got in line at 2:00 PM and crossed after 8:30 PM. He was held at the kiosk for 20 minutes by an incredibly rude customs agent asking question after question; then he checked under the dog beds and under the seat of the king cab. The air pollution was so bad with carbon monoxide, particulate matter and diesel fumes that when Kirk finally got home, he spent the rest of the evening throwing up. It was a BAD crossing!

It was also the first time in 8 years he has crossed at TJ—this beause we've been stopped and hassled 3 of the 4 last passes through Tecate. We'll try Tecate again this Wednesday heading south.
OMG 6 1/2 hours must be some kind of record! anyone beat that??????
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[*] posted on 12-10-2012 at 07:01 PM


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I dont know how long its been like this but the ready lanes at padre kino are closed. the ready lane at via rapida is backed up south of Independence and the regular lanes back to revolution. this was at 11am.
so I touristed around tj all day then headed back south. looks like tecate or otay!


Can you elaborate on the 2 different Ready Lanes (rapida/kino)? I didn't know there were 2 separate Ready Lanes. Thanks, and sorry to hear about this atrocity.

I'm really tempted to never go thru TJ northbound again.




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[*] posted on 12-10-2012 at 07:08 PM


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Originally posted by Marla Daily
It took my husband more than 6-1/2 hours to cross at Tijuana going north on Thursday, November 29. He got in line at 2:00 PM and crossed after 8:30 PM. He was held at the kiosk for 20 minutes by an incredibly rude customs agent asking question after question; then he checked under the dog beds and under the seat of the king cab. The air pollution was so bad with carbon monoxide, particulate matter and diesel fumes that when Kirk finally got home, he spent the rest of the evening throwing up. It was a BAD crossing!

It was also the first time in 8 years he has crossed at TJ—this beause we've been stopped and hassled 3 of the 4 last passes through Tecate. We'll try Tecate again this Wednesday heading south.
OMG 6 1/2 hours must be some kind of record! anyone beat that??????


Back in 1985 we once waited 12 1/2 hours it was the most horrific thing.

http://www.customscorruption.com/report/jcarman_16.html
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[*] posted on 12-10-2012 at 07:18 PM


Has anyone ever been in the line when they've closed the border? Imagine waiting 3 hours just to get to the booth only to have a shooting.

Closed down.

Put it in reverse? Hopefully TJ cops would come in and divert everyone out of there.

I think this happened a few years ago.




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[*] posted on 12-10-2012 at 07:23 PM


4 hours, the week before Easter. No record, but I will never do that again!



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[*] posted on 12-10-2012 at 07:24 PM


ateo, which ready lane route have you used?

12 1/2 hours! thats gotta be hard to beat!

[Edited on 12-11-2012 by willardguy]
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[*] posted on 12-10-2012 at 07:56 PM


the longest for me was 3.5 hrs last summer monday 2pm at otay
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[*] posted on 12-10-2012 at 08:02 PM


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Originally posted by luv2fish
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Originally posted by willardguy
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Originally posted by Marla Daily
It took my husband more than 6-1/2 hours to cross at Tijuana going north on Thursday, November 29. He got in line at 2:00 PM and crossed after 8:30 PM. He was held at the kiosk for 20 minutes by an incredibly rude customs agent asking question after question; then he checked under the dog beds and under the seat of the king cab. The air pollution was so bad with carbon monoxide, particulate matter and diesel fumes that when Kirk finally got home, he spent the rest of the evening throwing up. It was a BAD crossing!

It was also the first time in 8 years he has crossed at TJ—this beause we've been stopped and hassled 3 of the 4 last passes through Tecate. We'll try Tecate again this Wednesday heading south.
OMG 6 1/2 hours must be some kind of record! anyone beat that??????


Back in 1985 we once waited 12 1/2 hours it was the most horrific thing.

http://www.customscorruption.com/report/jcarman_16.html
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[*] posted on 12-10-2012 at 08:03 PM


Any of you remember Operation Intercept in 1969?? 7 or 8 hours at the border was all the time, thanks to Richard Nixon. Ensenada was like a ghost town.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Intercept
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[*] posted on 12-10-2012 at 08:16 PM


must have been an awful 20 days!:wow:
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[*] posted on 12-10-2012 at 08:23 PM


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ateo, which ready lane route have you used?

12 1/2 hours! thats gotta be hard to beat!

[Edited on 12-11-2012 by willardguy]


That wasn't me with the 12 hours........

I usually do ready lane that is over by the 2 new high-rise towers. I have no idea what the street names are. Sorry.




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[*] posted on 12-10-2012 at 08:25 PM


I must add that the border wait is directly related to our lame ass drug policy in the USA. Another complication of having the whole "thing" wrong.



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[*] posted on 12-10-2012 at 08:28 PM


We crossed just an hour before you and made it in right at three hours. The web said that it was 2 hours at Tecate, so that did not make sense. They only had 6 lanes open and there was so much traffic that they could not handle it all. Imagine what it must be like for the police and businesses in Tijuana to have to deal with this mess. I used to think that TSA was the most inept government group, but the Border Patrol must run a close second. One of the guys in the booth in front of us could not input the information correctly in the computer so we had the slowest lane in the whole mess and then watching the guys prescreening the cars and watching the dog work and they were laughing at the poor suckers who were stuck in traffic for so long.
I'm sorry but if private enterprise had this contract they could screen faster, more effectively, and keep every one happy in the process. Nobody is tied to performance so it is just too bad that it takes so long to get across.




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[*] posted on 12-11-2012 at 02:35 PM


I crossed Tecate yesterday, 12/10. 2:45 wait, then 15 min. more in secondary. This was at 1:30. The military was letting all the semi's through and making the cars wait. WTF happened to Tecate crossing? We crossed on the Mon. after Thanksgiving and had two cars in front of us. Like the old days. I'll have to look into a Sentri pass, but I heard you can't go through with a camper on.

On top of the above, heads up on the military check point no. of San Felipe. The guy tore my camper apart. Took out half my load, went through my cusions, had me pop my camper up, looked in my air cleaner, went through the front and opened anything he could find. This all took about 30 min.

A 7 1/2 hour drive took me 11 hours. It was a long day. Oh well.
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[*] posted on 12-13-2012 at 12:24 AM


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We crossed just an hour before you and made it in right at three hours. The web said that it was 2 hours at Tecate, so that did not make sense. They only had 6 lanes open and there was so much traffic that they could not handle it all. Imagine what it must be like for the police and businesses in Tijuana to have to deal with this mess. I used to think that TSA was the most inept government group, but the Border Patrol must run a close second. One of the guys in the booth in front of us could not input the information correctly in the computer so we had the slowest lane in the whole mess and then watching the guys prescreening the cars and watching the dog work and they were laughing at the poor suckers who were stuck in traffic for so long.
I'm sorry but if private enterprise had this contract they could screen faster, more effectively, and keep every one happy in the process. Nobody is tied to performance so it is just too bad that it takes so long to get across.


Just wondering but what would be the financial brass ring for "private enterprise"? Would their profits be measured in how many cars and how fast? How happy the people were? The amount of terrorists caught? A percentage of the drugs found? I would LOVE some changes--dont get me wrong--but a profit incentive for moving people from one country to another safely?
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[*] posted on 12-13-2012 at 06:48 AM


I've only always had a 2 hour or less wait going north crossing at TJ.

But I always wondered about facilities (bathrooms) if the wait were more.
No bathrooms anyway and a heck of a lot of people in that line.

And you know, if private enterprise had had concession - they would HAVE to install public banos.
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[*] posted on 12-13-2012 at 07:09 AM


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And you know, if private enterprise had had concession - they would HAVE to install public banos.


It's Mexico, the land where "Have to" doesn't exist.
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