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Iflyfish
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Surf fishing, low tide, high tide, slack tide?
What's best? Don't have my knock down yet on this.
How do you capture sand crabs, not by throwing sand at them you jerk, so don't even suggest it.
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watch for their antenae sticking out of the sand when the water recedes after each wave. they make "V's" in the sand. reach down and grab a big
handful of sand and let the little guys go. after a few tries you'll get it. if you need to put more than 3 on a hook they are too small.
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high tide is the dinner bell, screw bait fishing, throw the kailn morf! (jmo of course)
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
watch for their antenae sticking out of the sand when the water recedes after each wave. they make "V's" in the sand. reach down and grab a big
handful of sand and let the little guys go. after a few tries you'll get it. if you need to put more than 3 on a hook they are too small.
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Get your burro over here and show me! Pig Beach beckons.
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Get a hand-held mirror, the kind that's in Ms Fly's overnight bag. Get a butterfly net and cut the handle off, NO SHORTER than 12". Go to a sanding
beach and when the incoming wave reaches it's apex and starts to go back out, lie on your tummy, hold the mirror so one edge is on the sand, tilted
about 30 degrees toward the sand. If there is a sand crab there, it will see the 'other' sand crab and jump at it. At this point, you can scoop it
up with the net. You'll need to quickly crawl up the beach to get out of the way of the next wave, then do it all over again. After thirty minutes
you'll have a bunch of the most aggressive crabs.
This is especially effective in the San Roque area.
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Grew up on the beach with a corbina loving surf fishing dad!
On the incoming high tide, as it is coming in... once the tide peaks and begins to drop, the fish are done... At least this was the case in Baja where
we would fish at the openings to lagoons, like Bahia Santa Maria. I was pretty young when we lived and fished on the beach in Del Mar... 1957-1964.
The sand crabs are exactly as woody said... however, they may not always be active... mussel from the docks in Mission Bay were the best bait for
Corbina and croaker... then we discovered grunion was king! http://www.dfg.ca.gov/marine/grunionschedule.asp
I captured a bucket of grunion during a run (in Solana Beach), then froze them in baggies, took them to Baja (near Morro Santo Domingo/ Laguna
Manuela) and it was crazy what we caught... croaker, corbina, calico bass, halibut... wow. The grunion chunks stayed firm on the hook and made
recasting (if needed) a breeze. Mussel isn't the easiest meat to stay on a hook and neither is smelt. Viva the California grunion for bait!
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You can use a plastic colander for sand crabs. As the surge goes out just twist your feet and the crabs will be swept into it. Of course there has to
be crabs to start with. I haven't tried the Gulp sand crabs but the worms work as good as any real bait. You can probably get shrimp for around $120+
pesos / kilo and lots of stuff love shrimp. Just save some for bait. I like a piece of orange yarn and a piece of shrimp on a carolina rig. The yarn
will stick to their teeth (barred perch) and your catch ratio will go up. The orange imitates a sand crab ripe with eggs.
edit:
Here's a few shots of a sandcrab screen I made
[Edited on 12-30-2012 by Russ]
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Pileworms & sand crabs
but,, you gotta watch those plie worms..Ouch !!
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Caught lots of corvina and corbina on cut squid of the beaches at Las Barrancas.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by captkw
but,, you gotta watch those plie worms..Ouch !! |
bloodworms? they are the best bait out there, but expensive and hard to find.
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I have noticed that many of the local dogs seem to have those worms....just don't know or have the courage to try and get any. Guess I'll have to wait
for CptKW to show me the er, em, ah, ropes so to speak.
Great advice guys. The Yellowtail are on a great bite here right now and seem to be getting bigger each day......bit windy today so stayed away from
the beach. Will give the fin friends a couple of days off then pursue with gusto.
Happy New Years amigos.
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blood worms
Hola,,I have not used blood worms..but I have seen them...pile worms are vicous with knarly P-ncher like teeth (2) and are great shore bait..sand
crabs dont last long if there are any fish around.. (munch,,munch) I dont have much time chaseing corvina (need to work on that) have alot of time off
the rocks (Mas Sur) and know some tricks that work !! the hard part is catching the bait. crab (sallys are best) berkley black seven strand leaders
and no weight !! just toss out in the gorges from the farthest out you can get !! the reef fish go thur crab like its soft butter & you have to
learn to set up with line motion..but you will catch some good eating fish,,chino miro,,sheephead,,parrot,,permit,,morey and anything that swims
around the rocks !!! its a double edge sword !! those sure are nice to see while snorkeling and catching the crabs can really get ya cut,bruised up
fast !! so go out as often as you can,,,cause its a short ride......K&T
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blood worms have that head that gets all gorged and then the teeth come out! i bet they are the same as pile worms.
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pile/blood worms
The sons of b-tchen I'm talking bout have those 2 teeth your talking about !! damn,,, that hurts !!! blood worms are smaller and look like blood,,very
red and dont bite...Jefftro,,now listen here boy...bring me that thar can worms..now see um teef...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by captkw
The sons of b-tchen I'm talking bout have those 2 teeth your talking about !! damn,,, that hurts !!! blood worms are smaller and look like blood,,very
red and dont bite...Jefftro,,now listen here boy...bring me that thar can worms..now see um teef... |
bloodworms mostly a east coast species will most defiantly put the hurt
on ya. I believe they even have a little poison in their bite! 
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ghost shrimp !!
| Quote: | Originally posted by whistler
Ghost shrimp ,sand crabs(soft shell works best),bloodworms,sugar cured mackeral,razor....MY REPLY..ghost shrimp cost more than silver !! and dont look
like they are from planet Earth...used them for sturgeon...the pricest of baits around here !!!!! K&T |
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"Lots of artificials too. " Any suggestions on specific artificials that you've had luck with?
John
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ghost shrimp
whistler ..they do take a lot of work to keep alive !!Can anyone here post a pic of one ???
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Whistler,
Thanks for the great detail on ghost shrimp
John
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anchoveys
Belly blow out and eye fall out...happens Fast !! whistler,, thanks for the ghost report !! when I was around 30 yrs old had a 28ft owens near
carqueniz straits and used them for sturgeon and they were not cheap and had to be pamperd !! funny looking little units..like they come from another
planet !! LOL....K&T
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