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[*] posted on 1-25-2013 at 01:32 PM
Tell me about shocks


Thinking about getting a Chevy 2500. Will pull dirt bikes around in the bed and on a carrier. Will sometimes pull a very large boat.

Will use it off road 10% of the time.

What after market shocks, suspension should I consider. How much does it run?
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[*] posted on 1-25-2013 at 01:44 PM


There are many good shocks out there. I prefer the Bilstein 5100 series. A bit more expensive than most. On line they go for about $75 each.
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[*] posted on 1-25-2013 at 01:59 PM


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There are many good shocks out there. I prefer the Bilstein 5100 series. A bit more expensive than most. On line they go for about $75 each.


Sorry for the confusion, not just talking about shocks. But raising it up a bit and an upgraded suspension.
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[*] posted on 1-25-2013 at 02:46 PM


For my trucks and race cars I use: www.downsouthmotorsports.com/
Their web site will give you an idea about the cost and what is available for your Chevy....
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[*] posted on 1-25-2013 at 02:51 PM


if you are going to pull a very large boat i hope it's a diesel



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[*] posted on 1-25-2013 at 03:31 PM


I also suggest a diesel if you're going to do the towing.

A stock diesel with the Bilstein 5100's will be fine. You can add progressive leaf springs in the back if need be.

I run a Dodge 2500 diesel with a slide in camper and tow a boat, probably 4000 pounds total, with no problem. I averaged 18 mpg last year to Baja and back though my truck is a 2005 with in-line 6 cummins, best mileage diesel out there.




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[*] posted on 1-25-2013 at 03:31 PM


I've seen heavy duty shocks and springs transfer enough energy to the frame to crack it. Riveted shock mounts (rear) shear all the rivets. I sure would talk to and purchase a suspension kit from someone who knows what the hell they're talking about. A lot of kits are made to cruise shopping centers IMHO.



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[*] posted on 1-25-2013 at 04:02 PM


It all depends on how much you want to spend. You can raise the truck 2 inches with new shocks for under $500. If you go more than that the price goes up. I did a leveling kit on my 04 GMC Z71 for $2100. It lifted it 2.5 inches. Usually anything over 3 inches requires replacing the upper control arms. The shocks for a lifted vehicle need to match the lift.

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[*] posted on 1-25-2013 at 04:08 PM


Springs and shocks will be a start... are you sure about getting a Chevy?

Maybe a Ford Raptor will be already be set up for what you want to do, or a Tundra Off Road edition, or Dodge Power Wagon? Perhaps visit an off road fabrication shop such as Off Road Warehouse or 4 Wheel Parts for some ideas and costs?

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[*] posted on 1-25-2013 at 04:25 PM


On a scale of 1 to 10, how much better can you make the ride over wash boards with a setup costing $3-4K or under.
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[*] posted on 1-25-2013 at 05:11 PM


Just get a rear sway bar and air bags. Works for me and 3400# camper.



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[*] posted on 1-25-2013 at 05:31 PM
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I agree with the airbags....that way you have more adjustment beside tire pressure..Note:some shocks are also adjustable.......Its also easy to run Too much spring...and small tip: don't join the two air lines for air bags together...keep them separate...K&T:cool:
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[*] posted on 1-25-2013 at 06:48 PM


Costs more but control from the cab.



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[*] posted on 1-25-2013 at 08:18 PM


I agree with david k, just buy a Ford Raptor with camper shell, and off you go! Great truck. little pricey.
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[*] posted on 1-25-2013 at 08:46 PM


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I agree with david k, just buy a Ford Raptor with camper shell, and off you go! Great truck. little pricey.
buy a raptor for towing? are you high on drugs?????:?::?::?::?:
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[*] posted on 1-25-2013 at 09:07 PM


Get some Riderite airbags($300) in the rear, easy to install(sometimes no drilling required) and you can adjust them as needed. Air em up if you have a heavy payload, or if your towing a very large boat. It will level out your ride and take a lot of the weight off your suspension. When you dont need em you can air them back down and return to your stock suspension. Ive had mine for 3 years with a 1000# camper, no problems at all.

Stronger leaf springs are nice 10% of the time(when you tow/heavy payload) but then you will have a really stiff ride the other 90% of the time...so I've heard.

Bilstein 5100's are good shocks, they can be adjusted and they have a lifetime warranty( I had mine replaced without question). I ended up finally replacing them with Fox shocks with reservoirs. They are pricey but you get what you pay for and they can be rebuilt/re-valved.
Spend a little more now and avoid spending a lot more later...

Also, try some other forums, I got lots of good advice from Wanderthewest.com, under the "4wheel campers" link. A lot of guys that have different trucks with some heavy payloads.
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[*] posted on 1-26-2013 at 10:49 AM


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Get some Riderite airbags($300) in the rear, easy to install(sometimes no drilling required) and you can adjust them as needed. Air em up if you have a heavy payload, or if your towing a very large boat. It will level out your ride and take a lot of the weight off your suspension. When you dont need em you can air them back down and return to your stock suspension. Ive had mine for 3 years with a 1000# camper, no problems at all.

Stronger leaf springs are nice 10% of the time(when you tow/heavy payload) but then you will have a really stiff ride the other 90% of the time...so I've heard.

Bilstein 5100's are good shocks, they can be adjusted and they have a lifetime warranty( I had mine replaced without question). I ended up finally replacing them with Fox shocks with reservoirs. They are pricey but you get what you pay for and they can be rebuilt/re-valved.
Spend a little more now and avoid spending a lot more later...

Also, try some other forums, I got lots of good advice from Wanderthewest.com, under the "4wheel campers" link. A lot of guys that have different trucks with some heavy payloads.



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Here is my 2005 Tacoma with Ride Rite air bags and Bilstein 5100 shocks... Installed by Off Road Warehouse in Escondido... Lots of Baja trips with no problems on this set up (installed because the '05 Tacoma springs were too soft and the truck bottomed with a load added. My 2010 has better springs so not needed.






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[*] posted on 1-26-2013 at 11:33 AM
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Huuhhh !! They should have used Grade 8 Bolt with a locking nut (2) and then trimed the end...I hope those are not carriage bolts..... Yes,, I'm Picky !! air bags are awesome unit!! K&T PS..and the bottom bar is upside down !!! notice how its slightly bent? if was turned over the nuts will be closer to the fulcum or stress point...............Big Sign out front dosnt mean great mechanics.......sorry ,,what ai'm writing is true...BTW,,,Nice Truck !!! K&T PS..if you look how Toyota mounted the axle to the springs,,you will see the proper/correct way it should be done..I have found that a good 90o percent of mech's don't know the bizz....Yikes !!
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[*] posted on 1-26-2013 at 11:37 AM


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Just get a rear sway bar and air bags. Works for me and 3400# camper.
I have the airbags, they worked for about a year, now they don't hold air.
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[*] posted on 1-26-2013 at 11:44 AM


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On a scale of 1 to 10, how much better can you make the ride over wash boards with a setup costing $3-4K or under.
The best way to get a more supple ride on washboard roads is to replace your springs with a more progressive spring pack. A lift kit and shocks will do very little for your ride comfort, you do not want stiff for washboard roads. I would call Deaver and see what they recommend for what you are trying to accomplish.
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