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luv2fish
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Hugo Chavez is Dead...
Just to keep this Baja related, I wonder how his death will affect the price of petrol in Baja??. Ill be sure to send flowers....
http://www.afntijuana.info/informacion_general/16329_muere_h...
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bajaguy
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Oil
Does Baja/Mexico get much, if any oil from Venezuela???
I know that I don't buy any Valero gasoline
RIP Hugo......
[Edited on 3-5-2013 by bajaguy]
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The king is dead...
long live the king!
Udo
Youth is wasted on the young!
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Hugo was a really nice guy and he proved that today.
DEP Sr. Ricardo Cabeza.
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comitan
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Now the trouble starts.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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David K
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Can you believe his died before the other dictator, his amigo, Fidel Castro?
Valero? I heard that Citgo (7-11 gas) was Venezuelan... ?
I hope for freedom to return to the people of Venezuela!
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Ateo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
Does Baja/Mexico get much, if any oil from Venezuela???
I know that I don't buy any Valero gasoline
RIP Hugo......
[Edited on 3-5-2013 by bajaguy] |
Isn't it Citgo rather than Valero?
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David K
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Comitan, check this out:
Citgo Petroleum Corporation (or Citgo) is a United States–incorporated, Venezuela-owned refiner, transporter and marketer of transportation fuels,
lubricants, petrochemicals and other industrial products. The company is owned by PDV America, Inc., an indirect wholly owned subsidiary of Petróleos
de Venezuela, S.A., the national oil company of Venezuela.
Oh, and some good news:
Texaco sold some Citgo gas stations in the southeast when Chevron gained exclusive rights to the Texaco brand name in the U.S. on June, 2006. On
September 27, 2006 the 7-Eleven chain of convenience stores, a South African-owned company, announced its 20-year contract with Citgo was coming to an
end and would not be renewed. 7-Eleven Spokeswoman Margaret Chabris said "Regardless of politics, we sympathize with many Americans' concern over
derogatory comments about our country and its leadership recently made by Venezuela's president. Certainly Chavez' position and statements over the
past year or so didn't tempt us to stay with Citgo.
[Edited on 3-6-2013 by David K]
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bajaguy
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Citgo
I don't buy gas at 7-11, but do like their coffee
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
Does Baja/Mexico get much, if any oil from Venezuela???
I know that I don't buy any Valero gasoline
RIP Hugo......
[Edited on 3-5-2013 by bajaguy] |
Valero looks about as American as Apple Pie (and the Alamo)?:
Valero was created on January 1, 1980,[3] as a spinoff of Coastal States Gas Corporation. At the time, it was the largest corporate spinoff in U.S.
history. Valero took over the natural gas operations of the LoVaca Gathering Company, a defunct subsidiary of Coastal States Gas. The name Valero
comes from Misión San Antonio de Valero, which today is better known worldwide as The Alamo.
Valero acquired a small oil refinery in Corpus Christi, Texas in 1981, and began refining operations in 1984.
In 1997, Valero spun off its refinery and retail divisions into a separate company, which kept the Valero name. At the same time, the remaining
divisions, which consisted primarily of natural gas operations, were acquired by the Pacific Gas and Electric Company. Later that year, the firm
acquired Basis Petroleum, which left it with four refineries in Texas and Louisiana. In 1998, it then acquired a Paulsboro, New Jersey, refinery, the
company's first outside of the Gulf Coast area.
In 2000, Valero purchased ExxonMobil's Benicia, California, refinery and interest in 350 Exxon-branded service stations in California, mainly in the
San Francisco Bay Area. The company also began retailing gasoline under the Valero brand. In June 2001, Valero acquired the Huntway Refining Company,
along with two asphalt plants on the West Coast.
On December 31, 2001, Valero completed its acquisition of Ultramar Diamond Shamrock. The merger left Valero with over 4,700 Ultramar, Diamond
Shamrock, and Beacon retail sites in the United States, Canada, and the Caribbean. With this acquisition, Valero also received ownership of Shamrock
Logistics L.P., which was renamed Valero L.P. In 2006, the division was spun off as NuStar Energy. Starting in 2002, Valero has expanded its marketing
to the East Coast, specifically the Northeast and Florida, using the Valero brand. The acquisition also includes all past Diamond Shamrock assets,
including the former Sigmor Petroleum assets founded by Thomas E. Turner, founder of TETCO Inc. (the Sigmor brand name was the initials of Sigfried
Moore, Turner's former employer) which merged with Shamrock Oil and Gas in 1960 forming Sigmor Shamrock - which was merged into Diamond Shamrock in
1982. Turner later repurchased Mission Petroleum Carriers when it was acquired by Diamond Shamrock which was the foundation of TETCO. [4] and the
business portfolio of the former National Convenience Stores, which was acquired by Diamond Shamrock in November 1995.[5]
On April 25, 2005, Valero agreed to buy Premcor, Inc., for $8 billion in cash and stock to become the largest U.S. refinery, as record prices for
gasoline and other fuel boosted profits. On June 30, 2005, Valero announced that it was beginning a two-year process of converting Diamond Shamrock
stations to the Valero brand. In the next year, on May 5, 2008, Valero agreed to buy 72 Albertsons gas stations.
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bajaguy
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OOP's
My bad.........ok, Valero is on the good guy list. Can't go against the Alamo..........and i still like 7-11 coffee!!!!
[Edited on 3-6-2013 by bajaguy]
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thebajarunner
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Michael Moore- where are you
Perhaps you can win another Academy Award on the quality of Cuban medicine.....
Then again, perhaps not.
Good riddance, I say,
My father always said to speak well of the dead.
Well, he is dead, all is well!!
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luv2fish
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And the confusion and speculation begin. It appears the Venezolanos cant figure out who is in charge. I hope this don't turn into a big power struggle
/ revolution.
http://www.el-mexicano.com.mx/informacion/0/0/2013/03/05/657...
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Islandbuilder
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yep, It's in the vacuumes of power that chaos thrives. The stonger the leader, the greater the chaos.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Can you believe his died before the other dictator, his amigo, Fidel Castro?
Valero? I heard that Citgo (7-11 gas) was Venezuelan... ?
I hope for freedom to return to the people of Venezuela! |
Venezuela is a Federal Republic and the President is elected by the people. The last dictator served until 1958.
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CARACAS, Venezuela — Subway commuters cried on their trains. Drivers blasted their horns in grief. The government called for seven days of national
mourning.
Meanwhile, other residents of the Venezuelan capital jammed into Plaza Bolivar and asked that President Hugo Chavez's body be brought to them there,
in the colonial heart of the country he had transformed — for better or worse — with his outsized personality and unique brand of pan-Latin
petro-socialism.
"Chavez vive!" they chanted. Chavez lives. "La lucha sigue!" The struggle continues.
LA Times
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Can you believe his died before the other dictator, his amigo, Fidel Castro?
Valero? I heard that Citgo (7-11 gas) was Venezuelan... ?
I hope for freedom to return to the people of Venezuela! |
Venezuela is a Federal Republic and the President is elected by the people. The last dictator served until 1958. |
LOL! So a fourth term after he changed the constitution with opposition and un-favorable press banned is not a dictator? LOL
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Can you believe his died before the other dictator, his amigo, Fidel Castro?
Valero? I heard that Citgo (7-11 gas) was Venezuelan... ?
I hope for freedom to return to the people of Venezuela! |
Venezuela is a Federal Republic and the President is elected by the people. The last dictator served until 1958. |
LOL! So a fourth term after he changed the constitution with opposition and un-favorable press banned is not a dictator? LOL |
just stating the facts
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Valero looks about as American as Apple Pie (and the Alamo)?:
Valero was created on January 1, 1980,[3] as a spinoff of Coastal States Gas Corporation. At the time, it was the largest corporate spinoff in U.S.
history. Valero took over the natural gas operations of the LoVaca Gathering Company, a defunct subsidiary of Coastal States Gas. The name Valero
comes from Misión San Antonio de Valero, which today is better known worldwide as The Alamo.
Valero acquired a small oil refinery in Corpus Christi, Texas in 1981, and began refining operations in 1984.
In 1997, Valero spun off its refinery and retail divisions into a separate company, which kept the Valero name. At the same time, the remaining
divisions, which consisted primarily of natural gas operations, were acquired by the Pacific Gas and Electric Company. Later that year, the firm
acquired Basis Petroleum, which left it with four refineries in Texas and Louisiana. In 1998, it then acquired a Paulsboro, New Jersey, refinery, the
company's first outside of the Gulf Coast area.
In 2000, Valero purchased ExxonMobil's Benicia, California, refinery and interest in 350 Exxon-branded service stations in California, mainly in the
San Francisco Bay Area. The company also began retailing gasoline under the Valero brand. In June 2001, Valero acquired the Huntway Refining Company,
along with two asphalt plants on the West Coast.
On December 31, 2001, Valero completed its acquisition of Ultramar Diamond Shamrock. The merger left Valero with over 4,700 Ultramar, Diamond
Shamrock, and Beacon retail sites in the United States, Canada, and the Caribbean. With this acquisition, Valero also received ownership of Shamrock
Logistics L.P., which was renamed Valero L.P. In 2006, the division was spun off as NuStar Energy. Starting in 2002, Valero has expanded its marketing
to the East Coast, specifically the Northeast and Florida, using the Valero brand. The acquisition also includes all past Diamond Shamrock assets,
including the former Sigmor Petroleum assets founded by Thomas E. Turner, founder of TETCO Inc. (the Sigmor brand name was the initials of Sigfried
Moore, Turner's former employer) which merged with Shamrock Oil and Gas in 1960 forming Sigmor Shamrock - which was merged into Diamond Shamrock in
1982. Turner later repurchased Mission Petroleum Carriers when it was acquired by Diamond Shamrock which was the foundation of TETCO. [4] and the
business portfolio of the former National Convenience Stores, which was acquired by Diamond Shamrock in November 1995.[5]
On April 25, 2005, Valero agreed to buy Premcor, Inc., for $8 billion in cash and stock to become the largest U.S. refinery, as record prices for
gasoline and other fuel boosted profits. On June 30, 2005, Valero announced that it was beginning a two-year process of converting Diamond Shamrock
stations to the Valero brand. In the next year, on May 5, 2008, Valero agreed to buy 72 Albertsons gas stations. |
You don't reference and credit things you cut and paste? You just post it as if you wrote it? Besides, while Wikipedia is a often a good starting
point, it all needs to be cross-referenced. Wikipedia is definitely not the place to find all the "facts"
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David K
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Here you go: http://www.ask.com/wiki/Valero_Energy_Corporation
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