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Whale-ista
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Gray whale observed off coast of Africa, a 1st in known history
Now this is what I call a migration.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/14/first-grey-whale-spott...
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
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Wow! very interesting, Thanks
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They only swim counterclockwise down there.
Bob Durrell
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And, of course, it is being blamed on climate change
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CortezBlue
And, of course, it is being blamed on climate change |
I'm surprised you're not blaming Obama
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I don't think the whale was close to Kenya, or should it be Hawaii or Indonesia......
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CortezBlue
And, of course, it is being blamed on climate change |
Actually, climate change is likely the culprit---its allowed enough of the polar ice to melt so the whales can navigate the northwest passage. You
can decide whether WE are the culprits for causing it but the fact is there is less ice. A gray whale was also sighted off of Israel not too long
ago. Gray whales used to have large populations in the Atlantic but we killed them all off by the 1800s.
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Whale-ista
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These whales are born in Mexico, so Maybe they're just tired of waiting for immigration reform in the United States And are heading for Europe and
points beyond.
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
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CortezBlue
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mexitron
| Quote: | Originally posted by CortezBlue
And, of course, it is being blamed on climate change |
Actually, climate change is likely the culprit---its allowed enough of the polar ice to melt so the whales can navigate the northwest passage. You
can decide whether WE are the culprits for causing it but the fact is there is less ice. A gray whale was also sighted off of Israel not too long
ago. Gray whales used to have large populations in the Atlantic but we killed them all off by the 1800s. |
You can keep drinking the Kool Aid, but I prefer the real reason, the protection of the species has allowed them to proliferate and re-discover some
of their "original" routes used many years in the past before they were hunted into near extinction.
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Mexitron
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Kool-Aid? Real reason? Are you saying there is not less ice? Prove it.
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By the way, interestingly enough, the Antarctic Caps are expanding and have been for the last 30 years.
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"Earth's global thaw has reached Mount Everest, the world's tallest peak, researchers said Tuesday at the Meeting of the Americas in Cancun, Mexico."
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/05/15/mount-everest-ice-...
Foxnews??? Maybe more water to help our whales navigate.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mexitron
By the way, interestingly enough, the Antarctic Caps are expanding and have been for the last 30 years. |
Thanks Steve!
Since the Arctic has been loosing ice and the Antarctic has been gaining ice... then isn't that show earth is in balance? No net loss or gain of
ice... or maybe more ice than before since the Antarctic is many times bigger than the Arctic!??
It was in the 70's that 'a consensus of scientists' said we were heading towards a new ice age! That didn't scare enough people to hand over money and
change fast enough... so let's try global warming, instead!
Geologic history proves the earth has been warming and cooling, over and over, long before fossil fuels were burned... long before. Using 'climate
fear' to gain a political move over our lives is a tool of tyrants. Nothing wrong with discovering cleaner ways to live and work, but to say man is
guilty of changing earth's climate when it has been changing regularly without man, is disrespectful to our intelligence.
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Wasn't there a thread about a gray in Africa about a year ago ??
If I recall it's even named
sold out and got out !!!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mexitron
| Quote: | Originally posted by CortezBlue
And, of course, it is being blamed on climate change |
Actually, climate change is likely the culprit---its allowed enough of the polar ice to melt so the whales can navigate the northwest passage. You
can decide whether WE are the culprits for causing it but the fact is there is less ice. A gray whale was also sighted off of Israel not too long
ago. Gray whales used to have large populations in the Atlantic but we killed them all off by the 1800s. |
As always, your posts are informative and reasonable. I didn't know of the history of these animals nor what controls their current migration paths.
I, for one, thought they 'belonged' off the west coast of N America. Thanks.
BTW, I think Mulegena should be informed. Her whale off the coast Kamchatka could be anywhere by now.
This thread could veer off into the usual diatribe between political foes. I hope not.
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Actually I wasn't trying to veer into politics---as David says climate does change quite a bit through history though the last 10,000 years have been
relatively benign. There is less pack ice so the climate has changed up there, simple as that, and the whales have a better chance of making the
Northwest Passage. It might go back to being a regular pack ice next year, who knows?!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
...but to say man is guilty of changing earth's climate when it has been changing regularly without man, is disrespectful to our intelligence.
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disrespectful?
i think anyone that disputes scientific results simply because they don't like the results is a bonehead!
the whales are way smarter than the climate change deniers!
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sad that we turn to NOAA for info on hurricanes but then claim they are making up climate change....
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Dittos ... Bajaboy
Climate Change: Fish Forced to Move to Colder Waters, Study Says
http://www.designntrend.com/articles/4370/20130517/climate-c...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
| Quote: | Originally posted by Mexitron
| Quote: | Originally posted by CortezBlue
And, of course, it is being blamed on climate change |
Actually, climate change is likely the culprit---its allowed enough of the polar ice to melt so the whales can navigate the northwest passage. You
can decide whether WE are the culprits for causing it but the fact is there is less ice. A gray whale was also sighted off of Israel not too long
ago. Gray whales used to have large populations in the Atlantic but we killed them all off by the 1800s. |
As always, your posts are informative and reasonable. I didn't know of the history of these animals nor what controls their current migration paths.
I, for one, thought they 'belonged' off the west coast of N America. Thanks.
BTW, I think Mulegena should be informed. Her whale off the coast Kamchatka could be anywhere by now.
This thread could veer off into the usual diatribe between political foes. I hope not. |
Actually if you do some research on the web, there are some articles that believe that there were Grays, in the whale type, not he alien type, that
were in that area. It is thought they were hunted out and are now starting to move into those areas.
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