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El Comadante Loco
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[b]MEXICALI PLOCIE[/b]
I know this theme has been beat to death on this board but here is my story:
On Sunday May 26 at approximately 7:45 pm I was pulled over by Mexicali Police only 4 blocks from making my turn into the border crossing lanes. I
almost made it. The reason for the stop, tail lights on the trailer not working. True, I knew that for a fact but I did not have a new set, tried to
fix them but to no avail. On the trailer I had two quads which I was bringing home for the summer from my San Felipe house.
So the cop pulls me over and says trailer turn signal and break lights not working. We talk for a while and tell him I am coming back from San
Felipe. He asks for the usual license and registration then he asks for papers for the quads I tell him they are at home in El Centro. Should have
brought the papers with me but there is first time for everything. Now, this is where the game changes, so he tells that the lights are a minor
traffic infraction but since I do not have the papers for the quads that we need to go the Comandancia and since I live in El Centro I can wait there
until my wife brings the papers for the quads. This conversation goes on for a few minutes and he keeps repeating that we must to the Comandancia. I
am tired want to get home, shower and have dinner. At this point there never is any discussion of a mordida. He had turned the tables on me so I took
the initiative and said let's work this out so I do not have to go the Comandancia and you can resume your duties instead of spending all the time
needed to go to the Comandancia. I asked him what the thought was reasonable he again turned it back on me. I told him all my money had been spent in
San Felipe and that I could only afford $20 to which he made a half a turn and said no. Again I said that was all I had so I guess we were going to
the Comandancia. He said ok give me the money in the truck. The deal was done and I was on my way except I told that I did not want to be stopped
again by one of his compradres and asked him if he would follow me to my turn, he agreed and and give an escort which his lights flashing to my turn
off..
In short it was worth the $20 to avoid waiting for the quad papers and not peeing off my wife as she would have had to bring the papers but what I
enjoyed most was the police escort with lights flashing.. $20 well spent
What would you do?
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chuckie
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Bring the papers and fix the lights...DUH!
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woody with a view
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yeah, what Chuckie said, but still a fun end to the trip!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by El Comadante Loco
What would you do? |
Exactly as you did. Mordida is for the guilty, and you were guilty. That's how it was designed.
Had it been a BS charge, my reaction would be different.
By the way....you got off easy. It could have been ten times the price.
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Bruce R Leech
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If you don't want trouble with the police then dont brake the law.and when you do don't feed the bears it makes it tough on the rest of us. in therty
years of Baja I have never paid a bribe.
Bruce R Leech
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Paladin
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Nice to see you back.
I still love your dictionary.
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DaliDali
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
If you don't want trouble with the police then dont brake the law.and when you do don't feed the bears it makes it tough on the rest of us. in therty
years of Baja I have never paid a bribe. |
It is my contention that if your "culpable" a fine is warranted.
In order to facilitate the best use of the the local constables time,
payment of your "fine on the spot" is a win win for everyone involved.
Your guilty....you paid your fine.
Call it mordita or call it a bribe.....guilty is guilty and once the fine is paid, all parties can get back to what they were doing.
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Terry28
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It;s easy for others to say what they "would do" when they are not in your shoes...You did what most of us would do..$20 well spent. And lesson
learned. The tail light issue alone would have cost you the 20...
Mexico!! Where two can live as cheaply as one.....but it costs twice as much.....
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OP
you did exactly what you had to do under the circumstances ,
and Dennis is right you really got off cheap,,
and why would you get on the road when you knew your trailer lights are not working, it should have been an easy fix in San Felipe
and you also must have known about having paper work on the Quads,, they have been cracking down on this now for years.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Paladin
Nice to see you back.
I still love your dictionary. |
His dictionary says "Dickshunery."
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Bruce R Leech
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DaliDali
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
If you don't want trouble with the police then dont brake the law.and when you do don't feed the bears it makes it tough on the rest of us. in therty
years of Baja I have never paid a bribe. |
It is my contention that if your "culpable" a fine is warranted.
In order to facilitate the best use of the the local constables time,
payment of your "fine on the spot" is a win win for everyone involved.
Your guilty....you paid your fine.
Call it mordita or call it a bribe.....guilty is guilty and once the fine is paid, all parties can get back to what they were doing.
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so are you saying it is ok to brake the law if it saves you money?
Bruce R Leech
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motoged
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"Braking" the law at the "boarder".....
Don't believe everything you think....
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
so are you saying it is ok to brake the law if it saves you money? |
He didn't say anything like that, Bruce.
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Bruce R Leech
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DENNIS it is illeagle to bribe the police
Bruce R Leech
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DaliDali
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
DENNIS it is illeagle to bribe the police |
Go ahead and stand on "legal"....it's all up to you.
Paying a "on the spot" fine is just the way it works, not only in MX, but many other countries as well.
You know this....and fighting the "way it works" will only cause you aggravation, time and the very real possibility of paying more.
If a traveler feels he/she is only being shaken down to extract some "tea money", or taco money....then by all means go visit the Juez and plead your
case.
And, as you well know, more often than not, the local constable will simply give you a verbal warning with your promise to "no ofendan" again.
Standing on your supposed "legal rights" and the debating the overall legality of offering an "on the spot" fine payment, is best left to those with
nothing better to do.
Like the system or not.....it IS the way it works in MX.
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Bruce R Leech
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that is all I was saying is for many it is ok to brake the law if it saves them time or money, the only way that mordida survives is because there are
enough people with out enough integrity to say no to the bite.
Bruce R Leech
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El Comadante Loco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
that is all I was saying is for many it is ok to brake the law if it saves them time or money, the only way that mordida survives is because there are
enough people with out enough integrity to say no to the bite. |
Well it is good for me to know that I lack the moral fortitude and integrity to "JUST SAY NO" but in this case I am doubly guilty since I initiated
the mordida however it comforts me to know that my action is in line the vast majority of local population as well as other Nomads
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Udo
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IMHO...
you did the right thing...you were guilty and paid the fine that YOU determined.
Most other cops would have told you..."follow me to the nearest ATM machine"...IF they were after mordida.
Udo
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Bruce R Leech
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it is OK for me because most of the others are doing it.
sounds like a teenager.
Integrity is a concept of consistency of actions, values, methods, measures, principles, expectations, and outcomes. In ethics, integrity is regarded
as the honesty and truthfulness or accuracy of one's actions. Integrity can be regarded as the opposite of hypocrisy,[1] in that integrity regards
internal consistency as a virtue, and suggests that parties holding apparently conflicting values should account for the discrepancy or alter their
beliefs.
Bruce R Leech
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by El Comadante Loco
I know this theme has been beat to death on this board but here is my story:
On Sunday May 26 at approximately 7:45 pm I was pulled over by Mexicali Police only 4 blocks from making my turn into the border crossing lanes. I
almost made it. The reason for the stop, tail lights on the trailer not working. True, I knew that for a fact but I did not have a new set, tried to
fix them but to no avail. |
driving at night w/o working lights endangers everyone else on the road. really is no credible excuse for driving at night w/o lights! just don't
drive until you fix them!
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