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sad.gif posted on 6-1-2013 at 09:18 PM
Spectator identified at Baja 500


The spectator was identified who died this morning due to injuries sustained after being hit by a vehicle participating in the Baja 500 off-road race.

The Municipal Police report indicated that the victim was identified as Jorge Armando Vital Files, 39. A minor named Marco Antonio "N", 11, was injured.






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[*] posted on 6-1-2013 at 09:23 PM





[Edited on 6-2-2013 by Ken Cooke]




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[*] posted on 6-1-2013 at 09:26 PM


Some day this has to stop. Disgusting.
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[*] posted on 6-1-2013 at 09:35 PM


I thought I saw someone get hit on the video DK posted. On edit...I was wrong, it was a motorcycle rider who split between to spectators.

[Edited on 6-2-2013 by Frank]
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[*] posted on 6-1-2013 at 09:36 PM


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Some day this has to stop. Disgusting.


This will take extra volunteers to keep spectators away from sections of the race course where accidents such as this one have a higher probability of happening. I have not read anything in the English-speaking media about this - yet.




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[*] posted on 6-1-2013 at 09:47 PM


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Some day this has to stop. Disgusting.


This will take extra volunteers to keep spectators away from sections of the race course where accidents such as this one have a higher probability of happening. I have not read anything in the English-speaking media about this - yet.


Volunteers or just let Darwin figure it out
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[*] posted on 6-1-2013 at 10:02 PM


By the time it gets regulated for safety you may as well race in the US. The glory is gone. Disgusting.
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[*] posted on 6-1-2013 at 10:06 PM


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Originally posted by Ken Cooke
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Some day this has to stop. Disgusting.


This will take extra volunteers to keep spectators away from sections of the race course where accidents such as this one have a higher probability of happening. I have not read anything in the English-speaking media about this - yet.


Volunteers or just let Darwin figure it out

:(


Exactly!!!! There are consequences for our actions-------who in their right mind would be in a position to be runover by a race car unless they really did not care much what happened as long as they got that thrill??

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[*] posted on 6-1-2013 at 10:09 PM


Darwinism ridding the knucklehead and knuckle dagger genes from the pool, it's all good!
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Darwinism ridding the knucklehead and knuckle dagger genes from the pool, it's all good!


BS - I don't think "it's all good" that a Mexican bystander was crushed by a Baja 500 racer.

Disgusting!
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[*] posted on 6-1-2013 at 10:24 PM


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By the time it gets regulated for safety you may as well race in the US. The glory is gone. Disgusting.


Disgusting? Only in the more populous sections of the race course would this need to be regulated for safety.




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[*] posted on 6-1-2013 at 10:28 PM


It's never good to see someone die. That could've been........anyone or someone's kid........who knows??

Best to promote safety, and I saw a ton of that on the race course today.

This is a dangerous race for sure.

[Edited on 6-2-2013 by Ateo]




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[*] posted on 6-1-2013 at 10:30 PM


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By the time it gets regulated for safety you may as well race in the US. The glory is gone. Disgusting.


Disgusting? Only in the more populous sections of the race course would this need to be regulated for safety.


How would the sponsors go about that?
It will happen again and again.
Disgusting. Again and again.
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[*] posted on 6-1-2013 at 10:35 PM


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By the time it gets regulated for safety you may as well race in the US. The glory is gone. Disgusting.


Disgusting? Only in the more populous sections of the race course would this need to be regulated for safety.


How would the sponsors go about that?
It will happen again and again.
Disgusting. Again and again.


For starters, SCORE could hire volunteers (preferably from the local communities) to ask spectators to stay a safe distance from certain turns, etc. I know how hard it is to police events - I helped run a Jeep club once.




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[*] posted on 6-1-2013 at 10:37 PM


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By the time it gets regulated for safety you may as well race in the US. The glory is gone. Disgusting.


Disgusting? Only in the more populous sections of the race course would this need to be regulated for safety.


How would the sponsors go about that?
It will happen again and again.
Disgusting. Again and again.


For starters, SCORE could hire volunteers (preferably from the local communities) to ask spectators to stay a safe distance from certain turns, etc. I know how hard it is to police events - I helped run a Jeep club once.


You don't hire volunteers:?:




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[*] posted on 6-1-2013 at 10:42 PM


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You don't hire volunteers:?:


You don't??? :?:

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[*] posted on 6-2-2013 at 08:34 AM


How sad.... and disgusting

[Edited on 6-2-2013 by Bob H]




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[*] posted on 6-2-2013 at 08:38 AM


Death sucks... and none of us can avoid it. The only question is when. Hopefully we have some choice in that and rather it be to avoid danger or enjoy danger, it is a choice we can make.



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[*] posted on 6-2-2013 at 09:03 AM


Sad....but I don't get the disgusting part.

The most dangerous part of our racing has been watching out for spectators (and what they do). Some do stupid things, to include endangering the racer. Over the course of a desert race, policing spectators is impossible to do. In the most crowded area and where traffic is a concern, policing (police or volunteers) does occur.

I hate to see this kind of thing happen, as the sport, not the spectator gets the black eye. Same happens in many sports, sad...but disgusting?
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[*] posted on 6-2-2013 at 09:42 AM


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Death sucks... and none of us can avoid it. The only question is when. Hopefully we have some choice in that and rather it be to avoid danger or enjoy danger, it is a choice we can make.


Well stated, David. I wish I had said that. :light:

I think we all remember the Race trajedy near Barstow a few years ago when many were killed and injured---------and the blow-back against the Race Sponsors from the people in general--------Races are dangerous, and even more so when you choose to stand or sit near the race-course, a personal choice.

Our hearts go out to the relatives and friends of these death and injuries in the Baja 500, and elsewhere-----THEY are the real victims I am thinking. My son, my son-in-law, and my brother-in-law were there at that race (one of them a racer--Brady Turner) and I worry constantly until it is over. I still have no feedback from them.

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