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Russ
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Hotel in Punta Chivato For Sale
This just sent to me. It's probably an old listing but it is a beautiful Place.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/overseas-property/property-409878...
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desertcpl
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yes it is,, wish I had a few extra Mil laying around and was 30 yrs younger
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Vince
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I have been visiting Punta Chivato since the early 1960's and have always loved that place. A frequent stopover while fishing out of Mulege, a great
place to have lunch before heading back. One time there was a major thunderstorm dumping rain on Serenidad airstrip when we were about to land, so we
diverted to Punta Chivato and spent the night. We asked if they had air conditioning on this hot August afternoon when checking in and they
responded," Si Senior, in every room". When we arrived to the room the air conditioning units were still in the crates, uninstalled. I loved it
best when Bill Alvarado ran the hotel.
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Vince
I have been visiting Punta Chivato since the early 1960's and have always loved that place. A frequent stopover while fishing out of Mulege, a great
place to have lunch before heading back. One time there was a major thunderstorm dumping rain on Serenidad airstrip when we were about to land, so we
diverted to Punta Chivato and spent the night. We asked if they had air conditioning on this hot August afternoon when checking in and they
responded," Si Senior, in every room". When we arrived to the room the air conditioning units were still in the crates, uninstalled. I loved it
best when Bill Alvarado ran the hotel. |
The AC referred to was maybe the sea-breezes flowing thru------ -we stayed
there several nights quite a few years (15?) ago, and we were amazed at how cool it was in the rooms compared to where we were camping out on the
Punta Chivato point campspot for 10 days-------this was in late May, and it was HOT. Margaritas helped. There was no-one else staying there, and we
had the entire place to our selves. They cooked up a wonderful dinner for us------there were 6 of us, and they treated us like kings and queens. I
think "the Italian" did own it then, and they were kinda strange, but we sure enjoyed our stay. We kidded about it being a "mafia" retreat.
Barry
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chuckie
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My Daughter and I stayed there when it was semi abandoned..looooong time ago. We used to take the Diesel boat up there from Mulege, call the hotel on
the radio, they would send a car down to get us. We watched the Olympics on their sattv, and stayed onite...I still think its awesome..I'm going to
ask my wife if I can buy it
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Hook
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Time for another reminiscent post by Roger, on the history of this hotel; complete with faded photos from his 70s film camera.
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chuckie
My Daughter and I stayed there when it was semi abandoned..looooong time ago. We used to take the Diesel boat up there from Mulege, call the hotel on
the radio, they would send a car down to get us. We watched the Olympics on their sattv, and stayed onite...I still think its awesome..I'm going to
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We could all partner-up and make it an exclusive NOMADS retreat 
------what do you think? 
Barry
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David K
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It was one of my dad's favorite sites in Baja. I have a photo of him and my mom floating on rafts looking at the fish. The current would take you
around the point. Erle Stanley Gardner has photos of it under construction by Dixon Collins in his 1967 'Off the Beaten Track in Baja'.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
| Quote: | Originally posted by chuckie
My Daughter and I stayed there when it was semi abandoned..looooong time ago. We used to take the Diesel boat up there from Mulege, call the hotel on
the radio, they would send a car down to get us. We watched the Olympics on their sattv, and stayed onite...I still think its awesome..I'm going to
ask my wife if I can buy it |
We could all partner-up and make it an exclusive NOMADS retreat
------what do you think?
Barry |
Well, if we could just get 28 nomads to pony up $214,285.71 each, everyone could have their own room.
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that picture they have posted is beautiful! what an amazing site this hotel is on ..... just priceless.
[Edited on 6-6-2013 by BajaBlanca]
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Lou the author of One Hell of a Ride has the best anecdotes on the building of the orig PC hotel in the 50s.
sorry i read the book but can't recall his last name. His wife was a hollywood girl. i think he still is alive, in his 80s like his contemporary Don
Johnson. Don told me many of the book's tales were exaggerated.....
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Our first stay there must have been 1989 or 1990, during a Thanksgiving weekend. I will never forget that stay. (Talking about air conditioning made
me think of just how cold it got those nights.)
I wish I had a photo of us and other guests standing cliffside watching an amazing sunset from that world class location. Of course that was before
"the Italian", Bill Alvarado was the host then.
Perhaps a new owner can transform the property back to one that we all can enjoy again.
Ken
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mulegejim
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| Quote: | Originally posted by capt. mike
Lou the author of One Hell of a Ride has the best anecdotes on the building of the orig PC hotel in the 50s.
sorry i read the book but can't recall his last name. His wife was a hollywood girl. i think he still is alive, in his 80s like his contemporary Don
Johnson. Don told me many of the book's tales were exaggerated..... |
It is Lou Federico....interesting read as he also built the hotel above the river in Mulege first. Lots of great old photos. Agreed in it seems a bit
exaggerated. Have talked to several of the old timers who flew into the hotel in Mulege in the old days and it was really something....Hollywood stars
and all. If you can find the book it is interesting. In fact I believe Jayne Mansfield was wed to Matt Climber there in 1964. The remains of the hotel
and Lou's house are still there above the river in Mulege.
[Edited on 6-6-2013 by mulegejim]
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beautiful place, could be quite an interesting place,... but $6M for 28 units, or $214K/unit
sometimes the RE asking prices for large properties in Mexico are quite amusing
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capt. mike
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based on the location, with airstrip, if the entitlements can get "fixed" $200K a door for a 1st class hotel is not out of the norm. If i had it i'd
place a very large solar array there and get off the diesel genset that only goes on part of the day. I'd also put in solar AC.
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Russ
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Location, Location, Location
It really isn't such a huge price. I mean it is a huge price but for the amount of land on the exclusive point maybe not so unreasonable.
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Hook
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Yeah, but the poor access to the hotel and all the other competition that has sprung up around it make it a bad investment, IMO.
It cant stay in business through Nomad-type people who are willing to drive there from the border or drive in from the nearest airport. And it sure
seems like general aviation to Mexico has been declining as a generation of pilots passes on.
Still, the Italian did nothing in terms of marketing to the US, Canada and Mexico that I ever saw. I seem to remember some ads directed at Europe, but
that's about it. It would take a concerted media campaign and a plan to get people transported there.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Yeah, but the poor access to the hotel and all the other competition that has sprung up around it make it a bad investment, IMO.
It cant stay in business through Nomad-type people who are willing to drive there from the border or drive in from the nearest airport. And it sure
seems like general aviation to Mexico has been declining as a generation of pilots passes on.
Still, the Italian did nothing in terms of marketing to the US, Canada and Mexico that I ever saw. I seem to remember some ads directed at Europe, but
that's about it. It would take a concerted media campaign and a plan to get people transported there. |
owner probably got it for $600K and trying to sell it for $6M..
It should sell based on current financials of hotel, and i doubt his books/cash flow justify $6M,... he seems to be saying "my occupancy rate is low,
I could not make it pay well, but you should pay high sales price to me as if you can make it pay well"
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capt. mike
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i always heard it was backed by an org that needed some laundry done.
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Russ
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If someone that didn't aggressively chase clients away they could probably bring in the spa type folks. Mountain bikes, quads, kayaks, boaters of all
kinds and the hotel has the air field concession now too. There is a lot here to attract visitors. Also there are a lot of homes here now available as
us old farts are fading from the scene.
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