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[*] posted on 6-28-2013 at 08:54 AM
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They are still at it a group of deep pocket Lawyers are in the process of trying to take over Rancho Packard . They Tried to illegally take possession of 5 Hectares and were removed by a court order. the court awarded them the property. but they didn't follow procedures to legally take over the property. It appears the court order that interrupted the takeover may only be a temporary fix.
Other than the on site panic this has created the local Baja No Bad News Committee has swept it under the carpet for fear of upsetting the local community It made the Mexican news el Vigia yesterday.
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[*] posted on 6-28-2013 at 02:16 PM


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They are still at it a group of deep pocket Lawyers are in the process of trying to take over Rancho Packard . They Tried to illegally take possession of 5 Hectares and were removed by a court order. the court awarded them the property. but they didn't follow procedures to legally take over the property. It appears the court order that interrupted the takeover may only be a temporary fix.
Other than the on site panic this has created the local Baja No Bad News Committee has swept it under the carpet for fear of upsetting the local community It made the Mexican news el Vigia yesterday.


if it's news worthy, provide the link to article, tell the story,... the info you provided is cryptic tidbits, can't really figure out what you are talking about (i suppose locals know what you are talking about?)
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[*] posted on 6-28-2013 at 04:01 PM


It all stems from a long going law suit the group was awarded possession of 5 hectares of land in Rancho Packard which affects 8 residents Homes the group appeared the afternoon of june 27 to take possession of the land they were awarded but did so illegally . the owners went to court and got a last minute injunction to stop the eviction process. there is a pending suit in court that involves a additional 5 hectares and will affect another 10 residents the entire area of Rancho Packard is roughly 20 Hectares which adjoins PUNTA BRAVA







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[*] posted on 6-28-2013 at 04:28 PM


Well this is about as bad as it gets. several people we know well are in danger of losing every thing they have.
In response to Goat asking for LINKS I don't need any I am a eye witness to what happened here.







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[*] posted on 6-28-2013 at 04:39 PM


If this expropriation goes down, I may as well burn my house. It'll put an end to Punta Banda as a relocation destination maybe....forever.
All of Baja will suffer.
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[*] posted on 6-28-2013 at 04:45 PM


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If this expropriation goes down, I may as well burn my house. It'll put an end to Punta Banda as a relocation destination maybe....forever.
All of Baja will suffer.






Exactly the thing that makes me the maddest the people we know as the no bad news every thing is Rosy committee are trying to keep a lid on it they don't want to frighten anyone
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[*] posted on 6-28-2013 at 05:03 PM


how long is the "long running" lawsuit? did the current occupants move in before or after the lawsuit started?

sorry my request for a link got your nose out of joint, but you mentioned an article in news and i wanted to read it, won't ask again! ;D






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[*] posted on 6-28-2013 at 06:02 PM


I have liver here 11 years every one involved thought it was settled. the link you asked for Dennis provided the article was in El Vigia most of the residents moved here assuming it had been settled. this place has the reputation of being one of the safest and reputable owners. This current action came as a shock to everyone.





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[*] posted on 6-28-2013 at 06:08 PM


I'm fully convinced the Law Schools are educating future lawyers in "Predatory Law."
The Ejidos will be their primary employer, and others, such as in this case, will freelance.
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[*] posted on 6-28-2013 at 06:14 PM


Stuff like this is why I would NEVER own property in Mexico..I am a renter..



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[*] posted on 6-29-2013 at 08:10 AM


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[*] posted on 6-29-2013 at 08:17 AM


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http://www.elvigia.net/noticia/intentan-desalojar-siete-fami...


I posted this link in this thread yesterday, and now it's gone. What's up with that?






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[*] posted on 6-29-2013 at 08:41 AM


Chuckie- I have always said that I wouldn't buy anything in Mexico that I could not afford to walk away from. In the mid 90's I tried to buy a beach house in Punta Banda from a gal in Arizona. She assured me that land ownership was not in dispute etc. Other "owners" in the same area told me the same ie "you'll never have to worry about property in this area and you better buy now because prices will be going up!!" One trip to an attorney in Ensenada told me differently. I decided not to buy the house but agreed to rent it for a couple of years. Three years later the person that bought that house after I moved out (believing the prior owner) was evicted during a raging rain storm. I have since purchased a couple of places in Mexico. I always do my due deligence but my opinion has not changed and I will never buy anything that I can not afford to walk away from. There are too many examples of land lease payments being doubled (or worse) or owners are forced to leave due to some land dispute (not only in Punta Banda.) In many instances, it is much cheaper to rent than to buy and there are many rentals in most areas. Many people visit an area and believe they have found their paradise and any delay in purchasing will let the deal of a lifetime slip away!! (Me included.)What I have found is that after a couple of years the initial infatuation fades ie paradise in the summer (Baja Norte) might be freezing in the winter or paradise in the winter (Baja Sur) might be miserably hot and humid in the summer. (A location with a cooling breeze on a beautiful spring day becomes a place with gale force winds at a different time of the year or a place with no bugs during the dry season becomes inundated with flies and nats after the rainy season arrives.) It is much easier to find someone wanting to sell even at a loss (after owning for 2 or 3 years) than it is to find someone who wouldn't sell after those same 2 or 3 years. Mexico is a beautiful place but those thinking they have found a once in a lifetime deal that they need to purchase today (or lose it) most times regret that hasty decision. Although I have purchased, renting for at least a couple of years is not a bad way to go. The house, or one similar, that one considered buying a couple of years ago will probably be available at a lower price.
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[*] posted on 6-29-2013 at 08:42 AM


Is this the peninsula by the old hotel ? Cliffh
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[*] posted on 6-29-2013 at 08:58 AM


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Is this the peninsula by the old hotel ? Cliffh




No it's at km.17 0n the La Bufadora highway about 3miles east of the Blowhole

Next door to the new Tiger Woods Golf Course

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[*] posted on 6-29-2013 at 09:24 AM


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http://www.elvigia.net/noticia/intentan-desalojar-siete-fami...


I posted this link in this thread yesterday, and now it's gone. What's up with that?



Never mind. I figured it out. I inadvertently linked to the sewage treatment site.
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[*] posted on 6-29-2013 at 03:49 PM


ABSI? I have "owned" 2 homes in Mulege in the 30+ years I have lived here. Without going into agonizing detail, after I sold them,(Ididnt own the land) the folks that bought them after "buying the land" are now 7 and 10 years into getting that done...lotsa lawyers, lotsa money, no title....Another good friend went thru exactly what is happening in PB..Bought land, built house 8 years later some dude shows up with papers....(lawyer) and bye bye....Due diligence? Crystal ball....good luck..nuff said...



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[*] posted on 6-29-2013 at 04:02 PM


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Stuff like this is why I would NEVER own property in Mexico..I am a renter..


Technically, the folks at Rancho Packard (Dennis, JP and others) do not own property. They lease it. So, however much they may have expended in money, blood, sweat and tears to provide great living for themselves, it drains down the sink hole, if the land owner/ lessor either loses their rights via some lawsuit, or just merely sells the land.

Purchasing property is something altogether different.
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[*] posted on 6-29-2013 at 04:13 PM


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Technically, the folks at Rancho Packard (Dennis, JP and others)



Not me. I'm in Lomas Del Mar. Totally different.
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[*] posted on 6-29-2013 at 04:25 PM


Think Buenaventura, just south of Mulege...and see how that turned out....I know, I was one of the unlucky ones...



Mexico!! Where two can live as cheaply as one.....but it costs twice as much.....
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