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dirtbikr
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Mood: start slow....then taper off!
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diesel fuel
I am in the market for a new truck, I need a diesel for the fifthwheel I am buying, is diesel fuel avail most everywhere in baja? I know it wasn't
avail in asunsion in march when we were there, anywhere else not available?
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Be SURE to check whether a brand new truck has the particulate filter which demands the use of 15 ppm diesel fuel, or not. Below El Rosario only
Mexican manufactured PEMEX diesel is available which PEMEX publicly states is 300 PPM. Voiding the warranty is not something to be taken lightly.
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David K
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See posts from 'Bob & Susan', who live in Baja Sur with new diesel trucks from the U.S.
There have been both no issue and big issue reports... you will need to decide on the risk.
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chuckie
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BajaParrothead
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Dirtbikr,
If you don't mind the used market, early 07's and earlier don't have the DPF.
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Wally
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From the Ultra-low-sulfur diesel Wiki Page
Mexico
Mexico has begun limited introductions of ULSD along the border with the United States.[7]
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Wally
From the Ultra-low-sulfur diesel Wiki Page
Mexico
Mexico has begun limited introductions of ULSD along the border with the United States.[7]
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'Ultra Low' replaced 'Low' several years ago in the state of Baja California. The concern is in Baja California Sur.
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MMc
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Diesel fuel will always be short in small towns. Diesel motors are only sold in large trucks in Mexico. The demand is along the highways. It is
increasing up and down Baja but if you're leaving the highway you should do so with a full tank and some extra cans.
I love the idea of diesel but availability of fuel and getting them worked on keeps me with a gas hog.
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bkbend
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I don't burn diesel so I can't say whether it's available at all locations, but one thing to remember is both gasoline and/or diesel may not be
available at all times at all locations that normally have them. Outages occur for hours or days and it's usually in locations where there isn't an
alternate station nearby. It's not as bad as the 'old' days but still wise to keep thinking about a plan B. I still top off frequently, the time it
takes to do so is easier than the stress finding the next town dry.
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chuckie
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I can get a lil over 600 miles per tank with my Dodge, havnt had any problem for a number of years finding diesel except at San Ignacio..with all the
new stations and a 600 mile range a person would almost have to plan a problem...As to getting them worked on? My current Dodge has 336000 miles on
it, and except for getting the valves adjusted every 100000 or so has had no problems....There are Cummins shops in almost every major ag center in
Baja...My 90 Dodge, which I gave to my boy has almost 800000 miles on it, needed a new injector pump a while ago...
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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If the dealer catches wind of regular diesel being used in a new vehicle the service department enters the VIN number into their computer and you can
say "Adios" to your warranty - all of it including rattles, paint, differential, and electrical. This is a big issue for some folks. New motor
vehicles have problems and I'd hate to absorb that out of pocket.
Just something to chew on...
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by whistler
Rarely in small towns will you be able to find diesel. |
I'm surprised that hasn't been changing. It wasn't until recently that Mexicans could register a diesel vehicle, but now it seems they can.
Even the Micro owners had to register their busses while it had a gas engine......then they would make the switch to diesel.
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chuckie
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DavidE I dont believe that to be factual. Please point us to the source of that information...other than somebody said...
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Ford Motor Company technical service bulletin articles, and a few Ford service department managers - like in English Chucky, and extensive
conversations. I am not your librarian. Want a ---- load of information, go to rv.net the RV'ing Mexico thread, query DIESEL, and bring lots and lots
of popcorn and no-doz.
Or have point-by-point fun with this...
http://www.dec.state.ak.us/air/anpms/ulsd/ulsd-q&a.htm
One thing I do not post, is garbage even though I sometimes have to respond to it...
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BajaBlanca
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When we asked in Abreojos yesterday, they said they have diesel at the new gas station. Someone had asked us, so we inquired.
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Sulfur extraction units cost a lot of money and even more to operate. I look for the refinacion in Queretaro or Veracruz to be the 1st with a refinery
addition, and solely to feed the Mexico need for UBA diesel. Here? It's going to be awhile.
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chuckie
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Already did that David,, and talked to my Dodge dealer last month...lots of stuff regarding performance problems but not much about voiding warranties
on paint and door handles....It was in english, that part you got right....I am particularly interested, since Iam considering buying a new
truck....My daughter was here several months ago with a 2010 Duramax...Paint didnt fall off...
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Chuckie, I'm serious about the following. Talk to the SERVICE MANAGER at the agency not the guy in the Paisley Suit and Fluorescent Tie about what
terms will void the warranty on the unit. There has been serious discourse about dealer computer diagnostics finding error codes in the regeneration
units, leading to removal and examination of the regeneration units and finding UREA ADDITIVE had not been used and then the dealer denying service
charges and in addition listing via computer the vehicle VIN number on the manufacturer's data base.
One Ford owner b-tched he had to pay the dealer two hundred dollars for resetting the computer, and one thousand three hundred dollars for a new regen
unit. The vehicle had apparently never seen Mexico - all was done on USA low sulfur diesel.
A couple other people sued Dodge when their warranties were voided. Laugh about this if you wish I do not think risking forty thousand dollars is very
funny myself.
Find out if disconnecting or running down the battery causes the check engine light to come on forcing the owner to take the vehicle to the dealer for
a dealer only code removal. This is where the error code memory found the DPF error codes, and one thing led to another. Remember, I am talking about
Chevy, Ford and Dodge so one or the other may have different warranties, but betcha a nickel Dodge says OH HELL NO to using 300 PPM diesel in your new
truck.
This is a controversial subject. Don't feel lonely. Your money. Your Truck. Your Risk. not mine.
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chuckie
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The service manager was whom I talked to..And you are right, my money, my truck, thats why I did the homework...
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willardguy
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its clear the only way we're gonna get to the bottom of this is to bring in bob-n-susan 
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