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David K
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Will the cooling of the arctic ocean improve fishing in Baja?
Mother Nature always wins, even though we may bruise her on occasion... Great news, everyone should be happy to hear:
From the Daily Mail:
"And now it's global COOLING! Record return of Arctic ice cap as it grows by 60% in a year
Almost a million more square miles of ocean covered with ice than in 2012
BBC reported in 2007 global warming would leave Arctic ice-free in summer by 2013
Publication of UN climate change report suggesting global warming caused by humans pushed back to later this month"
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/Global-cooli...
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DaliDali
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Gawd I love Al Gore....
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gnukid
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No global warming for the past 202 months
| Quote: | | “shows that climate models can and do simulate short, 10- to 12-year “hiatus periods” with minimal warming, even when the models are run with
historical increases in greenhouse gases and sulfate aerosol particles. … tropospheric temperature records must be at least 17 years long to
discriminate between internal climate noise and the signal of human-caused changes in the chemical composition of the atmosphere.”
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/09/10/terrifying-...
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Bajaboy
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and smoking does not cause cancer
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woody with a view
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i dunno, it's been hot as balls in Yuma this summer!
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MMc
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What kinda balls?
Weather is what we complain about and can't do anything about.
If humans are causing change, we will not be able to prove it until it to late.
Most Americans are not willing to cut back on there lifestyle do do anything about it.
Anything America does will be out paced by India, China and Indonesia.
NEVER FORGET NATURE BAT'S LAST.
Just cause humans can't live on the planet doesn't means it ends, ask the dinosaurs.
Solved, Any questions?
[Edited on 9-12-2013 by MMc]
[Edited on 9-12-2013 by MMc]
"Never teach a pig to sing it frustrates you and annoys the pig" - W.C.Fields
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acadist
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does this mean we will get bigger halibut?
Dave
I moved to CO and they made me buy a little rod to make it feel like a real fish
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MMc
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I plan on it!!
I like how you get to the important stuff.
"Never teach a pig to sing it frustrates you and annoys the pig" - W.C.Fields
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Mexitron
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So you're now predicting global cooling....sure to start a panic in the other direction.
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Skipjack Joe
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Global cooling would not occur that dramatically in one year.
If you look at the monthly change of the arctic ice cap it will grow larger with each month until dead winter and then grow smaller as summer
approaches. During winter there is little difference in the ice cap between global warm years and the previous years. But during the summer the ice
cap is vastly different during the warm era and it stays small longer before growing back. So what's likely happened is that the winter conditions
have come earlier this year and the cap we would normally see in october we are seeing in august.
It's all statistics and the boundaries you choose for your sample measurements. You can prove anything with statistics by picking the time frame that
you decide to do your measurements. That's how people are manipulated. A better thing to do is to research the political leanings, if there are any,
of the reporter of this news and see how that correlates with the type of news that's being reported. I know nothing about the 'Daily Mail' but if
there is any truth to this it will spread to other reputable news services and there should be agreement amongst the majority of climatologists.
Unless you are fond of conspiracy theories. Then you reverse everything and believe everything is the opposite of what you are reading because man is
a congenital liar.
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DaliDali
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Balls and Yuma
| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
i dunno, it's been hot as balls in Yuma this summer! |
It's hot as balls ANY summer in Yuma......
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durrelllrobert
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Great bals of fire?
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i dunno, it's been hot as balls in Yuma this summer! |
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IjgZGhHrYY
Bob Durrell
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
-----------because man is a congenital liar.
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A very broad statement--------Links and sources for this conclusion would be appreciated, SkipJack.
Barry
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Global cooling would not occur that dramatically in one year.
If you look at the monthly change of the arctic ice cap it will grow larger with each month until dead winter and then grow smaller as summer
approaches. During winter there is little difference in the ice cap between global warm years and the previous years. But during the summer the ice
cap is vastly different during the warm era and it stays small longer before growing back. So what's likely happened is that the winter conditions
have come earlier this year and the cap we would normally see in october we are seeing in august.
It's all statistics and the boundaries you choose for your sample measurements. You can prove anything with statistics by picking the time frame that
you decide to do your measurements. That's how people are manipulated. A better thing to do is to research the political leanings, if there are any,
of the reporter of this news and see how that correlates with the type of news that's being reported. I know nothing about the 'Daily Mail' but if
there is any truth to this it will spread to other reputable news services and there should be agreement amongst the majority of climatologists.
Unless you are fond of conspiracy theories. Then you reverse everything and believe everything is the opposite of what you are reading because man is
a congenital liar. |
The MEDIA said we were heading into an Ice Age just 30 years ago... that didn't create the drama, so switch the facts and blame America for pollution
(but not China, India or East Europe)! We are going to burn up and sea levels will have us underwater in 20 years!
Actually, the 'reputable' media in this country will bury any truth that counters the goals of the current administration and its socialist allies.
As for climate experts, I agree with the founder of the Weather Channel (John Coleman) who has sued Al Gore for the false graphs and lies he has told
(which only serve to fatten his and other special interest group pockets). If you live in San Diego TV area, you will know Coleman as the retired
weather expert who is enjoying his late years being the funny weatherman on KUSI.
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chuckie
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How will it affect the temperature of Pacifico?
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chuckie
How will it affect the temperature of Pacifico? |
"Pacifico" will be several degrees cooler outside your Fridge, and you will save on electricity, a distinct bonus welcomed by all (even Al Gore, tho
he will NEVER admit it).
Barry
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David K
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motoged
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Now, where is the evidence that this is accurate info?
It's kinda like the news flashes predicting global warming ... people can believe whatever they want and find some kind of info to support their
opinion/belief....regardless of its veracity....
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Mother Nature always wins, even though we may bruise her on occasion... Great news, everyone should be happy to hear:
From the Daily Mail:
"And now it's global COOLING! Record return of Arctic ice cap as it grows by 60% in a year
Almost a million more square miles of ocean covered with ice than in 2012
BBC reported in 2007 global warming would leave Arctic ice-free in summer by 2013
Publication of UN climate change report suggesting global warming caused by humans pushed back to later this month"
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/Global-cooli...
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Don't believe everything you think....
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DaliDali
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Change is coming your way
"Hope and change".....grasp it...covet it....embrace it with all your might.
Lest the seas surely rise and consume us all.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K[/
As for climate experts, I agree with the founder of the Weather Channel (John Coleman) who has sued Al Gore for the false graphs and lies he has told
(which only serve to fatten his and other special interest group pockets). If you live in San Diego TV area, you will know Coleman as the retired
weather expert who is enjoying his late years being the funny weatherman on KUSI. |
ROTFLMAO - if john coleman is a climate change expert then al gore invented the interwebs?
Coleman is a TV weatherman whos 'expertise' is weather. He has a degree in journalism who would not be allowed into the weather channel today.
Back to your regular programming...............
MAGA
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