DaliDali
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Bahia Magdelena under siege.
Interesting article from Gary Graham off Bloodydecks.
http://www.bdoutdoors.com/article/gary-graham-mag-bay-under-...
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bajajudy
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How depressing
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durrelllrobert
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History says ...
In the mid-20th century, the sardine fishery off the Monterey coast seemed bottomless, resulting in a network of canneries along the waterfront
(Cannery Row, a place made famous by the John Steinbeck novel of the same name, and now a top tourist destination of Monterey). At their peak, they
processed millions of pounds of fish each year while providing jobs to thousands*. In the 1940s, the Pacific coast sardine catch accounted for around
25% of the total seafood catch in the U.S., making it a key part of the war effort. But it was not to last. By the mid-1940s, the fish were gone and
the canneries closing.
The current thinking is that a combination of overfishing, pollution, and the natural cycle of the sardine contributed to the rapid decline in the
late 1940s.
www.ethicurean.com/2009/12/09/sardines/
Bob Durrell
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Bob H
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Mag Bay was once regarded as one of the remaining pristine marine habitats in Baja, but it's on its way to becoming a desolate marine wasteland.
How SAD! 
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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Gary Graham recently reported that he followed a tuna pen south and east around the horn (Cabo San Lucas) on its way to La Paz where it will farm/grow
giant tuna like all those strung out along the Pacific Coast of the peninsula.
That news seemed to be a dire warning that the SOC would lose its tuna and that sportfishing would be greatly affected/reduced. Why no mention of the
pens in these articles about the big boats that catch the sardines we are talking about here? NOT ONE WORD. What gives?
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Russ
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It Happened to Bahia Concepcion.
Bahia Concepcion where life starts...given a chance!
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monoloco
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Thank you for posting this, everyone who has an interest in Baja needs to be aware of this ongoing disaster which has been inflicted on the
environment by self-serving, short-sighted politicians. The dire consequences of what they are doing will have a lasting and permanent impact on many
species.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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Too bad! The waters around baja were a wonder to behold. Now they are being decimated.
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bajabuddha
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Too bad! The waters around baja were a wonder to behold. Now they are being decimated. |
I must interject, the word 'decimated' means 'reduced by 10%'. Too often over-used, when 'destroyed' is a closer description. The Sea of Cortez has
been more than just decimated in the last 100 years of Northern occupation; not only by over-fishing, but the damming of the Colorado River has
reduced the nutrients essential to the chain of life for the Sea to NADA. The Colorado delta system was equal to the Amazon and Nile deltas for
aquatic and riparian wildlife before the series of water-takers were built. Now the northern part of the SoC is a barren water-desert from San Felipe
north. That, coupled with unscrupulous fishing harvests have caused over one third of ALL SPECIES of life to vanish, as in extinct now. Just in the
last 50 years the stories of fantastic catches are now just fables, compared to earlier tales.
IMHO, just like global climate change, the resulting catastrophy ain't gonna change. Too many puddin'-heads out there discounting facts and figures,
pounding pulpits for greater profits and "save the whales, as long as it doesn't interrupt MY comfort zone". Progress marches on. What to do about
it? Pound your fists in the sand and b-tch alot, just like we did for Glen Canyon many, many years ago. *sigh* Let's enjoy what we have left.
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all gone...no more
| Quote: | Originally posted by Russ
It Happened to Bahia Concepcion. |
Yep, A friend has yellowed pictures (remember Kodak Instamatic with 126 film??) of family trips to Conception Bay 40+ years ago fishing from the
beach, a yellow tail for dinner. It looked grand and my friend's dad wasn't killing all the fish, just the daily beach catch for dinner. It looked
like the now run down hotel/resort area in the hook just south of Requeson. A year or two ago when transiting a marine sanctuary zone I spotted gill
net end and top floats. When asked the pangero just shrugged and said "Baja". We were in San Carlos last week and the plant was smoking great quns at
2 in the afternoon.
EdZ KG6UTS
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No Sardines...
None up north:
http://www.vancouversun.com/travel/Sudden+disappearance+sardines+serious+economic+ecological/9034961/story.html
Don't believe everything you think....
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jimgrms
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Just read a report on facebook, the sieners in british columbia have left the area with out catching any sardines , just plain not any to be had .
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Russ
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I think that there should be a huge harvest of sea lions. I'll bet they'd make much better cat food and fertilizer.
Bahia Concepcion where life starts...given a chance!
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Hurts when ya see it ...
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Not too long ago, Mag bay WAS the whale capital of Baja, that is why one part of it is called BAHIA DE LAS BALLENAS.
But no more.
So sad, when money speaks more than what is best for the rest of the world.
There IS a reason why there are TORTUGEROS in the east cape now.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob H
Mag Bay was once regarded as one of the remaining pristine marine habitats in Baja, but it's on its way to becoming a desolate marine wasteland.
How SAD!
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Cardon Man
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Udo
Not too long ago, Mag bay WAS the whale capital of Baja, that is why one part of it is called BAHIA DE LAS BALLENAS.
But no more.
So sad, when money speaks more than what is best for the rest of the world.
There IS a reason why there are TORTUGEROS in the east cape now.
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Actually, Mag Bay remains one o the best places in Baja to see whales up close. To say they are "no more" is not accurate at all. And not fair to the
hard working tour operators who rely on whale watching visitors to make a good portion of their yearly income. Whale watching at Magdalena is world
class.
Regarding Grupo Tortugero...there was tremendous animosity towards them from the commercial fishermen at Magdalena. Graffiti reading " Fuera
Tortugeros " can still be seen around the area. Though I'm not entirely clear on why there was so much conflict.
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"A $32-million commercial fishery has inexplicably and completely collapsed this year on the B.C. coast." Who writes this stuff?
inexplicable? Really? The fishery took over 50 years to rebound after the last overfishing crash, and for the ensuing 20 years seiners all up and down
the west coast exploit the hell out of the resource causing it to crash again. Doesn't seem all that inexplicable to me. Do these people have their
heads buried in the sand, or what?
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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Just follow the money. who in big business and government has to gain from this????.
It is unfortunate that the government can not see beyond the end of their nose, or their wallet.......once it is gone, it is gone.
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cardon Man
Whale watching at Magdalena is world class. |
Think I'll stick to "world class" whale watching in Guerrero Negro.
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