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monoloco
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Norteamericano Has Boat Seized
What the hell was this idiot thinking? No fishing license and a total disregard for limits. !4 wahoo? Over 178 kilos of fish? That's not sport
fishing. Try leaving a couple for the next guy.
http://www.oem.com.mx/elsudcaliforniano/notas/n3161146.htm
I hope they throw the book at him.
[Edited on 10-19-2013 by monoloco]
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Hate these guys... I'm sure their story will be, how they got screwed in Mexico. F-em.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
A 178 kilo jurel? I love this newspaper...  |
Read it again, 178 kilos was the total weight of the fish onboard.
"Durante la inspección de la embarcación, los inspectores encontraron 14 pescados de la variedad "Wahoos", 1 dorado y 1 jurel con un peso de 178 kg"
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This is the type of thing that makes it real tough for the honest guys.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
"Durante la inspección de la embarcación, los inspectores encontraron 14 pescados de la variedad "Wahoos", 1 dorado y 1 jurel con un peso de 178 kg"
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Uhh...supposing that this does mean the weight of all those fish together, how would you write it if the jurel actually did weigh
178kg? |
I see your point, but I think
it's pretty obvious what is meant in the article. Anyway, as far as I'm concerned that guy should lose his fishing privileges permanently.
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Your Mex license allows for a three day limit on your boat. If this guy would have purchased a license, maybe he would have known this. I hope they
lock his butt up for a long time.
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Don't know about this area, but last Spring, early Summer Licenses were not available in the East Cape area for awhile. Not excusing his overfishing,
just saying sometimes even if you try, you can't always follow all the rules all the time. We were told to fish anyway, license requirements would
not be enforced until they were available (by the guy who should have been delivering licenses).
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Well what do you expect from a "bayliner" owner? 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Marinero
Don't know about this area, but last Spring, early Summer Licenses were not available in the East Cape area for awhile. Not excusing his overfishing,
just saying sometimes even if you try, you can't always follow all the rules all the time. We were told to fish anyway, license requirements would
not be enforced until they were available (by the guy who should have been delivering licenses). |
Since
licenses can be downloaded, availability should not be an issue.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by aguachico
Your Mex license allows for a three day limit on your boat. |
I don't think that means you can catch 3 times
your limit in one day
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
| Quote: | Originally posted by aguachico
Your Mex license allows for a three day limit on your boat. |
I don't think that means you can catch 3 times
your limit in one day |
But that is an interesting thought. When I went we overnighted at Santa Maria so we actually fished two days.
I heard that their boat and gear was taken. I will bet that the vigilantes wish they had been able to get a nicer boat.
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It is my understanding that he may get his boat and gear back after he pays the fine...or not!
Remember anglers that if you are fishing on someone else's boat and get caught without a license, it is the boat owner who suffers the
consequences!!! and may get his boat confiscated and kinda like going to jail, once you are in there, it's real hard to get out so it may take a long
time and alot of red tape to get it out. I wonder if he had a tourist card? He may be in serious doo doo.
I am always amazed at how many fishermen ask me what the chances are of getting caught. We have lost clients because we require them to have a license
and biosphere reserve permit....they just go over to the other charter operators who will take them out anyway....sheesh....so I am glad that this
story gets circulated so people know it can happen. I wish there was better enforcement in this area too.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pescador
| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
| Quote: | Originally posted by aguachico
Your Mex license allows for a three day limit on your boat. |
I don't think that means you can catch 3 times
your limit in one day |
But that is an interesting thought. When I went we overnighted at Santa Maria so we actually fished two days.
I heard that their boat and gear was taken. I will bet that the vigilantes wish they had been able to get a nicer boat. |
What is the proper way to document
multi-day catches? Presumably one would have to maintain the fish in the round since it is also illegal to fillet fish on the boat. What do they do on
long range boats? I really don't think these guys will be able to claim that it was a multi day catch since the boat is obviously not big enough to
overnight on. Personally, I think they were just being pigs and got caught.
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I think if you are on a boat that it a sport boat like this one, it's pretty clear if they are not spending the night off shore.
[Edited on 10-22-2013 by MMc]
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I know Bill Ernhardt fishes this area a lot, it would be interesting to hear his take on this.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MMc
I thing if you are on a boat that it a sport boat like this one, it's pretty clear they are not spending the night off shore. |
That's not true. People do spent the night on boats like that. You may have a hard time convincing them unless you can show some covers, sleeping
bags, or the like. But it is done, ask Bill E.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by msteve1014
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I thing if you are on a boat that it a sport boat like this one, it's pretty clear they are not spending the night off shore. |
That's not true. People do spent the night on boats like that. You may have a hard time convincing them unless you can show some covers, sleeping
bags, or the like. But it is done, ask Bill E. |
OK, I'll go with that. The point is you need look like you're spending the on the boat.
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A toothbrush would be a nice touch.
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I have talked to the Conapesca rep. The three day limit is true as it states right on the license. It is however trumped by daily limits. So I guess
you don't want three days of live fish in your hold.
I have fished out of san diego on a 22 foot cuddy for three days. I have kept slabbed fish on ice for the period. Slabbing is allowed as long as the
fish is identifiable. Polar bear cooler bags are great for this type of fishing combined with snow ice from Ensenada.
The tourist permit is not an issue for fishing, but an immigration issue. That said, it is not in your best interest to be caught doing something
illegal and be in the country illegally. $23 for 6 months is a no brainer.
I never have to worry about going over the limit as I'm not that good at fishing... except dorado fishing where only two fish per day makes no sense.
Other than the dorado limit, I like the Mexican limit structure better than the states.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
It is my understanding that he may get his boat and gear back after he pays the fine...or not!
Remember anglers that if you are fishing on someone else's boat and get caught without a license, it is the boat owner who suffers the
consequences!!! and may get his boat confiscated and kinda like going to jail, once you are in there, it's real hard to get out so it may take a long
time and alot of red tape to get it out. I wonder if he had a tourist card? He may be in serious doo doo.
I am always amazed at how many fishermen ask me what the chances are of getting caught. We have lost clients because we require them to have a license
and biosphere reserve permit....they just go over to the other charter operators who will take them out anyway....sheesh....so I am glad that this
story gets circulated so people know it can happen. I wish there was better enforcement in this area too. |
I was driving our group of volunteers in La Paz a few years back when I slowed and stopped at a stop sign. Two Officers of the law were standing
there and one of them signaled me to pull over which I did. He told me my front passenger was breaking the law by not wearing his seat belt. I
showed him that I was wearing mine and he said that it was still my fault because I was the "capitan" - he let me go with a warning but I always tell
everybody to buckle up now.
Two dirt roads diverged in Baja and I, I took the one less graveled by......
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