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TMW
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Some are ruining it for us all.
This was posted on Rogers facebook this morning. This is not good for the off-road racing people.
Roger Norman:
Help, anyone know who was pre-running around race mile 715 in a vehicle last night? They ran through a farmers tomato field tearing up his crop and
also broke a water main. Anybody who races through a farmers field during the race will be a DQ. The only place you can short course from VCP to VCP
is from the bottom of the Summit RM 115 to RM 215 near San Felipe. Whoever this person was they screwed all of us. The course was shut down to all
pre-running in that area this morning because of this inconsiderate person.
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Ateo
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Someone, if caught, will be in hot water. They should be forced to pay for the damage.
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tripledigitken
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Acts like this help to explain why we see boobie traps every year. 
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ateo
Someone, if caught, will be in hot water. They should be forced to pay for the damage. |
And don't you think who ever did it and his team should be out of the race?
At least no one was injured or killed, but as TW says, these things will ruin it for the others.
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vgabndo
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Now seems the perfect time for the racing community to stand up and show who is in the majority. The racers need to find this team, and make sure that
the penalties are so appropriate that the rest of us think you guys are policing yourselves. It doesn't just hurt racers when a (likely) rich
foreigner tears-up our hosts livelihood. (Yes, I know that some Mexicans make money on the race.)
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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DENNIS
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Whoever it was had to be drunk to pull a stunt like this and in serious need of an unforgettable education on the matter.
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vgabndo
It doesn't just hurt racers when a (likely) rich foreigner tears-up our hosts livelihood. (Yes, I know that some Mexicans make money on the race.)
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Some Mexicans have teams and drive as well, I'm told. We shouldn't be too hasty in pointing the finger of guilt.
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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Alan
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Definitely the responsible SOB needs to be held accountable but as the sponsoring entity SCORE needs to step up to the plate to settle damages while
the search continues for the person actually responsible.
In Memory of E-57
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Alan
Definitely the responsible SOB needs to be held accountable but as the sponsoring entity SCORE needs to step up to the plate to settle damages while
the search continues for the person actually responsible. |
That would be the right thing to do and maybe it would motivate them to find the jerk.
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vgabndo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by vgabndo
It doesn't just hurt racers when a (likely) rich foreigner tears-up our hosts livelihood. (Yes, I know that some Mexicans make money on the race.)
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Some Mexicans have teams and drive as well, I'm told. We shouldn't be too hasty in pointing the finger of guilt. |
Hence the word 'likely' pardner. They are in the minority, and I give them the common sense to not race in their neighbor's tomato patch. I'd
actually like to be proven wrong, 'cause at least then we'd know WHO to blame and make the target of our indignation.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vgabndo
Hence the word 'likely' pardner. |
Gotcha. Thanks for your patience and understanding. 
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wessongroup
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Know it wasn't me ...
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
Know it wasn't me ... |
Are you surrrrrrre, Wiley? Your name was mentioned by someone who knew you a hundred years ago?
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wessongroup
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Now that is possible ... we used to "play" in the tomato fields around the house back in the "days" ... in south Downey around 1950
Would lay between the rows and watch the plane "dusting" fly over us ... DDT was better than sliced bread in the 40's ... anyone remember the hand
pumps used to spray around the house ... I do
Yeah, all my siblings are still alive ...still not sure on long term impacts, at this time
The wife told me I didn't go any place, just checked with her ...
Agree with TW and others ... not something which one should do for a number of reasons ... unless they were YOUR tomatoes
Maybe it was a tire test ... pretty slippery driving in a tomato field IMHO
[Edited on 11-10-2013 by wessongroup]
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Race Members should go out and take a look at this tomato patch and see what damage was done. Then if it is a small patch as most of these farmers
have maybe a couple of hundred or so dollars would cover the cost. See if the other racers in the Off Road group would throw a little into the cash
pot to cover this farmer's loss.
Racers would probably be willing to do this to keep bad feelings from developing. Thus, it would help stop community bad will towards their Off Road
activities or making them seem to be irresponsible people.
Just a thought to make this racing group be know as caring people that they are. However, the racers would need to know the claim amount is valid.
If race officials tell members claim is valid then it would probably make it easier to get the money up. Again, do not know how big the tomato patch
was, however some of the ones I have seen are pretty small. So, the cost to cover the loss should be something this group would be able to handle in
a quick manner hopefully. Take Care & Travel Safe------"No Hurry, No Worry, Just FUN" bajafun777
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willardguy
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like roger doesn't already have a full plate, now he's got knuckleheads growing tomatoes in the middle of his race course!
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larryC
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It may not be a "race team" that is responsible for the damage. Around here we get the wannabees that seem to have no respect for the locals and think
that this whole place is here to be their play ground. Sometimes they are driving a rented prerunner and just having irresponsible fun. He is probably
bragging to his friends today about how he just barely made it through a tomato patch with a farmer hot on his tail.
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Must have missed the sign
From Roger Norman's Facebook page
His mother, Fran Muncey owns the Galley restaurant at the Chula Vista Marina and his stepfather was the world champion unlimited hydroplane racer Bill
Muncey. Besides owning SCORE Roger also owns the Crystal Bay Casino and tons of other stuff so paying for a tomato patch should be no problema.
Bob Durrell
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Are any IDs required on pre-runner vehicles?
Agree this is bad for many reasons, including "public relations." Even if repairs are made, No organization wants to be doing damage control before a
big event because of the bad acts of a few anonymous people.
Is there a way to ID race participants before as well as during actual race?
SCORE seems well organized. Are there requirements for race team vehicles to display identification on support vehicles (pre-runners, pit crews, etc).
If so, that might enforce better behavior and accountability.
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Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
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Just terrible.
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