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Wilbur4s
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Mexican Immigration Law
Mexican Immigration Law changed, went into effect on November 9th, 2012. The Law modifies the visa requirements and its process. All USA Citizens are
required to present USA Passport when entering Mexico (traveling by air, land or sea) at the point of entry.
Anybody aware of this? I started a few threads about securing the Mexican Tourist Visa as part of crossing into Mexico and got lots of feedback about
how to secure it expeditiously. This seems to make that process unnecessary. 
Ciao, Will Pizz
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Wilbur4s
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This from the Mexican Consulate web site, http://consulmex.sre.gob.mx/sanjose/index.php/visas
Ciao, Will Pizz
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David K
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The Mexican INM office only accepts a valid Passport from Americans as I.D. to obtain the Tourist Card (FMM).
This is not new... but recent (2-3 years now), and reported a lot here on Nomad. See the July, 2011 trip report by edm1. His wife's passport was
expired, and they (Mexicali INM) would NOT issue her an FMM, only him. At the Guerrero Negro INM checkpoint (that some here seem to have never seen),
she was fined $100 US.
Your passport is your ID... and the best ID to return to the US with. It has nothing to do with replacing the need for an FMM issued by Mexico for
travel beyond the border region.
Since you don't need an FMM for travel only in the border area (for up to 72 hours), they will not be seeing your passport (or lack thereof) since you
only walk into the INM office to get the FMM and are not sent there automatically.
[Edited on 12-10-2013 by David K]
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sancho
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Wilbur4s
All USA Citizens are required to present USA Passport when entering Mexico (traveling by air, land or sea) at the point of entry
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What is printed/written by Mex Imm as their regs is often not
enforced the way they are printed. You can find references
that contradict eachother from legit sources. Yes, traditionally
you have to have a valid passport to get an fmm, not sure
if the Passport card works, it has in the past, I'm
sure you could find info stating you need a Passport to
ENTER Mex, recently read on the San Felipe site Mex Imm
at the Mexicali border says ALL TOURISTS ENTERING Mex
need an fmm, doesn't matter where or how long you are
in Mex, you could probably get conflicting info from
one port of entry to the next. I always have the 180 fmm
or the free 7 day fmm
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Wilbur4s
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thanks.
Ciao, Will Pizz
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It has always been that way when flying into Mexico.
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dasubergeek
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When you fly, they always check your passport.
When you boat in, there are new rules (there's another thread floating around here somewhere about that).
But when you drive in or walk in, nobody gives a damn. I've never been asked for my passport in any of my dozens-if-not-hundreds of peregrinations in
the free zone, not even when I get a red light.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by dasubergeek
I've never been asked for my passport in any of my dozens-if-not-hundreds of peregrinations in the free zone, not even when I get a red light.
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I have, twice, at the newer Chaparral crossing. Perhaps not SOP, but it was those two times for me.
Checked under the hood as well.
On the other hand, in fifty plus years, I've never had a "red light."
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[Edited on 12-11-2013 by DENNIS]
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dasubergeek
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I've gotten the red light twice: once when six of us crossed at 3:13 a.m. in my carefree twenties, and once when I was walking across with an
overstuffed suitcase.
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My 2 cents. On that Wed. before Thanksgiving, the Aduana were checking everyone coming in at the east Calexico border. There were 2 groups independent
of each other, Customs and Immigration. We were Ok as we had our Imigrante Permanente cards and were waved thru. However our friends only had valid
passports. They got pulled into Immigration for an hour along with a host of others - their passports got yanked so they had to go. Here is the short
version. All holders of passports as ID's must get an FMM. This for going to San Felipe. 7 days or less is free. Over 7 days costs 250 pesos. Now
supposedly on way out of border, they? would be collecting the FMM stub. Didn't happen as no one was checking ID's or asking for the stubs. After
having a discussion with one of the Aduana officers, they will conduct these random inspections on entry on a regular basis.
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David K
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Wow, so San Felipe is technically not in the border zone by the sounds of that. Did you know how any of the people just going into Mexicali for the
day were treated? Can you imagine the backup if EVERY non-Mexican tourist/vacationer had to get an FMM at the border? !! Bureaucracy will be the death
of casual Baja tourism...
Thanks Chris!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by viabaja
- their passports got yanked so they had to go. |
Yanked?? 'Splain, please.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Wow, so San Felipe is technically not in the border zone by the sounds of that. Did you know how any of the people just going into Mexicali for the
day were treated? Can you imagine the backup if EVERY non-Mexican tourist/vacationer had to get an FMM at the border? !! Bureaucracy will be the death
of casual Baja tourism...
Thanks Chris! |
Enforcing immigration laws a bad thing? That's a good one. Could you imagine letting every non-US-citizen tourist/vacationer into the California
without a Visa?
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If Mexico is serious about San Felipe Immigration document
seems mexican immigration should set up a checkpoint at the military inspection station on the way to San Felipe.
this would be easy place to do the inspections and not too much extra delay
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| Quote: | Originally posted by akshadow
seems mexican immigration should set up a checkpoint at the military inspection station on the way to San Felipe.
this would be easy place to do the inspections and not too much extra delay |
Yes, as they do it that way elsewhere and it would not interrupt the flow of the Mexicali/Calexico people.
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I agree with Ralph!
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David K
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In an economic crisis, where the people of Baja have been shortchanged by the drop in tourism, anything that reduces the cost or procedures will
ENHANCE business and RAISE the economy.
Baja is a great place, but nobody has to go there for a vacation. Each time you add a barrier to families on a budget from going to Mexico, it hurts
Mexico.
1) The free tourist card ended in mid-2000... $23 per person before you were officially inside Mexico hurt. Big families stopped going. A few years
later, the free 7 day tourist card was initiated because of the DAMAGE done by the tourist tax.
2) 9-11 happened (2001) and increased waiting at the border has been getting worse beginning then.
3) Drug Cartel Violence 2006+/- (in the news, and to our Mexican friends) has a huge affect on feeling safe about going to Mexico.
4) Economic disaster after the political change in the U.S. senate beginning in 2007. Vacation funds disappeared as we had to keep a roof over our
heads.
The above 4 items has hurt Baja tourism... It is only because it is such a special place, with great things to do, and has off road racing, that
anyone goes at all.
Reducing the impact of the above items will help the people of Baja. All the dollars the Mexican government has taken for tourist cards has not ended
up in the pockets of anybody in Baja who made money from people on vacation... It has actually kept money out of their pockets. I do not understand
the love some people have for government bureaucracy???
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dasubergeek
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Interesting. I wonder what they do if you just cross on your SENTRI card.
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What is everyone's problem? If the EU can allow unfettered passage among 28 different nations as far flung as UK and Romania, with nothing more than a
photo ID such as a drivers license, what in the Hades are we doing?? It's a phobia.
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David K
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Seriously! I thought most who have issues with my ideology were all for Open Borders and Immigration Reform (ie. amnesty)???
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