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[*] posted on 12-19-2013 at 02:50 PM
Cave Paintings


I understand that you can visit cave paintings from both San Ignacio and Mulege. If I have 2 full days to devote to this activity, should I do one day in San Ignacio and one day in Mulege or 2 days in one place or the other?



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[*] posted on 12-19-2013 at 03:21 PM


San Ignacio... is just the nearest 'big' town.. and you can get a permit there or arrange a tour there.

There are many cave sites, but primarily you would be going to San Francisco de la Sierra and into San Pablo Canyon on mule back... One cave is along the road before reaching the village...


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[*] posted on 12-19-2013 at 03:28 PM


There have been some great posts by Nomads who have ridden the mules into San Pablo Canyon to see the giant cave sites... I think you need to allow for three days for a minimum tour...?

The Mulege area sites include San Borjitas (northwest of Mulege) and La Trinidad (southwest of Mulege)...

Try the search using these cave names if nobody comes forward with advice.

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[*] posted on 12-19-2013 at 03:43 PM


Gary at Ignacio Springs inn takes people on tours. He has been doing it for a while. The charge is $200 pp, per day and that includes all food. All you bring is sleeping bag and sleeping pad and camera!

http://www.ignaciosprings.com

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[*] posted on 12-19-2013 at 04:19 PM


Blanca, does Gary arrange the mule trip using one of the San Francisco villagers (typically an Arce)?

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[*] posted on 12-19-2013 at 06:09 PM


You cane easily use the 2 days out of San Ignatio if you want to see more then the usual sites. Don't split it up to Mulege.



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[*] posted on 12-20-2013 at 12:25 AM


We spent three days in San Pablo Canyon & saw 5 caves. You have to be in GREAT SHAPE because some places we had to lead the mules. (You want to go faster then they do...trust me) Also, we hiked up to each cave. You don't just ride up to them, get off and look around....each was a hike to get to.

One guy...half-way down the canyon... became paralyzed with fear...it was either the height or the fact that in some places the trail was a mere concept. His wife asked, "Does this mean that the Grand Canyon is out of the question?

Was it worth it? Absolutely...The paintings are spectacular.




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[*] posted on 12-20-2013 at 07:46 AM


If you only have 2 days, I suggest going out to Sta.Marta...get your permit from San Ignacio first then head up to the ranch at dawn...turn left at Bonfil. We have camped the night at the ranch to get an early start...it is about a 2 hour hike up to the caves and you can either walk or rent a burro to you can enjoy the view without watching where you are walking. It is a day trip you can do...and the paintings are superb...the biggest ones next to la Sierra de San Fransisco which is quite a major undertaking.



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[*] posted on 12-20-2013 at 08:34 AM


"in some places the trail was a mere concept."
Ha! True! Especially across a solid rock cliff face - the mules' hooves would slip on the rock. Our group was hiking, not riding - but I think I would have been very nervous if riding. On the last night, we hiked hours ahead of the mules with our gear, saw the last cave site, and waited for the mules with our gear so we could prepare our camp, have dinner, etc. They were expected about 3 pm - and did not show up. It became 5 pm, 6 pm. Finally, about 7 pm we hear them coming. The delay was due to a mule that had slipped and rolled down a cliff and had to be rescued.
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[*] posted on 12-20-2013 at 08:38 AM


Yes, Gary uses locals and gets all the proper permits. If you go on your own, you provide your own food. I hear Gary provides muy rico food.




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[*] posted on 12-20-2013 at 07:34 PM


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"in some places the trail was a mere concept."
Ha! True! Especially across a solid rock cliff face


I held my breath and watched others successfully cross this before I ventured across. The picture doesn't do it justice---it's a solid rock wall!!



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[*] posted on 12-20-2013 at 07:36 PM


Nice photo... scary enough! Thanks for posting!



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[*] posted on 12-20-2013 at 08:24 PM


Jeans, that pic is plenty scary!




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